How many more billions is NASA going to waste to tell us over and over that their is no life on Mars regardless if there is water there.
They already know it is too inhospitable to ever have life on Mars.
I will confidently predict that once the Rover returns, and testing is done on rock / soil samples, that eventually there will be a test for The "God Particle" / Higgs Boson -- and it will be found there, just like it was here..............
"We are the only country that has done anything like this."
Even as a Yank, that hubris rubs me the wrong way.
The pieces of the gadget itself were built by scientists around the world and I'd wager half of the folks in the control center were either born or educated overseas.
As Michio Kaku remarked, American education is such a mess that we're regularly ranked with third world countries.
[As Michio Kaku remarked, American education is such a mess that we're regularly ranked with third world countries.] ----------------------------------- is that why most of these high level scientists come to the us for their post-graduate studies and work?
why aren't they going to graduate school in third world countries ... or taking research positions in third world countries?
"Oh! Move over, Rover And let Jimi take over Yeah, you know what I'm talking 'bout Yeah, get on with it, baby That's what I'm talking 'bout Now dig this! Ha! Now listen, baby"
HOORAY!!! When the cold war ended I thought we'd stop spending so much on our military, that we would finally turn our eyes to building up our nation and exploring the universe. Instead we spent more than ever, searching for weapons of mass destruction. Now, with ingenuity we have begun again the journey which will safe guard our future, prepare ourselves with what we need to spread our kind through the universe in mind and eventually colonies. Great name for this rover, for it is curiosity which truly drives our species to become more than what we have been.
OMNI- you;ll find many fiscal conservative in support of NASA and its projects. The benefits in invention and pride outweigh the costs. So cut the assumption that you think everyone that wants the government to live within its means and stop wasting money is against space exploration. They aren't. In fact there probably the most ardent supporters. It is the leftists that have no vision and can't see the future. So you may want to become more open minded but I doubt from you comment you will. THis is a great achievement we should all be proud of.
I applaud most of your post. I also believe that such achievements have much broader implications than mere bragging rights. There is a helluva lot of good science that has and will come from these missions. The $2B price tag may be a lot to swallow but the potential ROI is tremendous.
But you lost me completely with your sentence below (presumably to omnibus66):
"It is the leftists that have no vision and can't see the future. So you may want to become more open minded but I doubt from you comment you will."
It is the "leftists" who will insure we even HAVE a future let alone one than can be seen.....
its a shame our country is in a mess and still find billons to spend on curiosity of was there life on mars? how that helps tax payers is the big mysterie
jwilsonte5 every party needs a pooper, but no one invited you! Read a couple of the posts and you will easily see the benefits we get from space exploration.
1. Human life will be either wiped out or reduced to near nothing on Earth via any number of catastrophic events (meteor impact, massive vulcanism, or super flu); it's inevitable. It's happened many times times in the past as proof.
2.This mission cost each American $7.00. How is that going to solve the issues you feel are more important.
3. Finding life on another planet would shed the shackles of man made religion on this planet and truly let the human spirit shine and take over our future.
You may be happy living in a nice safe cave, but others need to get out and explore so we can preserve our species.
Every here of science, Guess not with that remark. Next you want to take all money from science so there is no future advancement in medicines etc, or even no more manned space flights for the US. Good thinking, The US will become even more of a laughing stock due to people like you thinking its a waste
jwilsonte5, we also spend billions on providing tax breaks to big business and corporations. I don't know if that helps tax payers or not. But, what I *do* know is that space exploration has helped develop for us tax payers, among other things: weather and GPS satellites (which have led to countless saved lives, increased emergency response speed, etc., etc., etc.), extreme advances in engine technology almost tripling automotive gas mileage and significantly increasing power, too. Advances in computer hardware and software, sunglasses, smoke detectors, cordless drills, pacemakers, the artificial heart, jaws of life, medical imaging, food production, myriad of other medical procedures, and extreme advances in air travel (military and commercial--far too many to mention in this category), and these only scratch the surface.
So, while I agree that it's a good idea to be careful about where our money is spent, I am not so sure that this particular expenditure was a bad one.
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They already know it is too inhospitable to ever have life on Mars.
More on this subject in my upcoming book:
The Sixth Sense Activation Sequence
Steve Meyer / HolisticDNA
Even as a Yank, that hubris rubs me the wrong way.
The pieces of the gadget itself were built by scientists around the world and I'd wager half of the folks in the control center were either born or educated overseas.
As Michio Kaku remarked, American education is such a mess that we're regularly ranked with third world countries.
Nothing wrong with taking national pride in such a grand achievement as this.
The British and Europeans failed in their attempts at landing on Mars.
I'll agree the public education system sucks but foreigners still come to the US for higher education.
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is that why most of these high level scientists come to the us for their post-graduate studies and work?
why aren't they going to graduate school in third world countries ... or taking research positions in third world countries?
And let Jimi take over
Yeah, you know what I'm talking 'bout
Yeah, get on with it, baby
That's what I'm talking 'bout
Now dig this!
Ha!
Now listen, baby"
(c) 1967 Jimi Hendrix
But you lost me completely with your sentence below (presumably to omnibus66):
"It is the leftists that have no vision and can't see the future. So you may want to become more open minded but I doubt from you comment you will."
It is the "leftists" who will insure we even HAVE a future let alone one than can be seen.....
2.This mission cost each American $7.00. How is that going to solve the issues you feel are more important.
3. Finding life on another planet would shed the shackles of man made religion on this planet and truly let the human spirit shine and take over our future.
You may be happy living in a nice safe cave, but others need to get out and explore so we can preserve our species.
There you go jwilson; it's no longer a mystery.
So, while I agree that it's a good idea to be careful about where our money is spent, I am not so sure that this particular expenditure was a bad one.