Comments on: White House Sounds Alarm On Climate Change

Global Warming Damage Happening Now, Says Most Urgently Worded Federal Science Study Yet

[michael_lyns]

Isn't that what Bush said just before invading Iraq?

[michael_lyns]

You speak very well for a Right Wing idiot.

[michael_lyns]

EVERYONE wants clean air and water. We also need food. How do you suppose we get food to the worlds 6 billion mouths? There is no way to do this without producing massive amounts of CO2. We can't all just revert to being subsistence farmers. Many people live in cities where there are too many people on too little land. Even if we all decided to move to the countryside, America and Australia are about the only countries on Earth that have even close to the amount of arable land needed. Everyone else would starve. I would love to have an economically viable way to produce electricity without polluting. Its what everyone has been searching for and I believe we'll eventually find. However, levying onerous taxes on industry and trying to make unprofitable technologies profitable is not the solution. Pour money into research. When a viable solution is found, release it to the public much as was done with the internet. Trying to regulate a solution is a cure worse than the disease. OBTW: we're not all Radical Right. I voted for Obama and I want change. I just don't think tinkering with the market is sufficient or will work.

[michael_lyns]

Here's some science for ya: http://www.oism.org/pproject/

[michael_lyns]

There is a correlation between warming and CO2, but correlation does not prove causation, that's Science 101. The Warming can be due to natural variability in the Sun's output, or other factors that we don't yet understand. As this warming causes more Glacial melting and more plant life to grow, voila, you have more CO2. None of this is to say that man does not bear a responsibility to be a good steward of planet Earth. I'm as green as anyone you'll ever meet. However, I don't think that humans are responsible for the rise in Earth's temperature, and even if we were, nothing short of World War III is going to change the path we're on. China and India will surpass our CO2 outputs and keep on going in the next couple of decades. If you really think we're causing the warming then you should head for high ground.

[prohb]

You know, I really wish you nay-sayers were right. I wish I were wrong. I really do. It would be so nice to just blindly go along with a energy wasting lifestyle. I don?t want to worry. I wish you cold stick it in my face that that I am just another namby pamby, Al Gore loving, progress-denying loser. I would grovel at your feet and admit you have won the argument. I really do. But... sadly.... you're not....
Now with that depressing thought that doesn't mean for the rest of us to do nothing. Yes, Congress and the President can pass some laws and set the tone of where this country could go with its infrastructure, BUT?.. ultimately..... it is WE THE PEOPLE who will pull us out of this environmental and economic mess by improving our own lifestyles. We have to become a responsible and resilient people.
A Resilient People:
* would be a frugal and energy conservation minded not because it's the latest green fad but because it?s wise and efficient and part of their lifestyle.
* answer the call for SERVICE rather than just SHOPPING.
* A Resilient People will say in shape and eat the right foods so they better themselves AND so as not to jack up health care and energy costs ?.which affect other people too!.
* know and understands their civic responsibility. They have an understanding what our Constitution is all about and they VOTE!
* have a can do attitude, they problem solve and they don't shy away from the tough decisions.
That is the kind of people we need to deal with any crisis be it climate change or what not.

[michael_lyns]

GW is not proved or consensus. There is a petition signed by over 30,000 scientists working in Climatology and related fields whose credentials are listed on the petition site: http://www.oism.org/pproject/
If you really want to know the truth, you should not rely on the Administration or the MSM. EVERYONE has an agenda. The scientists who say GW is real are getting grant money to study the phenomenon. Conflict of interest much. The politicians are using it as a scare tactic to enact social change. Don't for one minute think that any of this has to do about the weather. NO ONE CAN CHANGE THE WEATHER. Get a grip.

[curse914]

by JerryJobes June 16, 2009 1:06 PM PDT
The current global warming cycle began at the end of the last Ice Age approximately 15,000 years ago.

Like most Americans, I'm for clean air, clean water and the protection of our wildlife habitat.

The United States population has increased from 150 million in 1952 to 300 million in 2008. When the human population doubles - the human waste doubles, water and food consumption doubles, trash doubles, fuel use doulbles and human pregnancy doubles. The Obamas and Gores are using scare tactics to control their social agendas on the American citizens. Has anyone considered reducing our population?

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Buddy, you hit the nail on the head. Any new economic model that comes from the implosion of our current perpetual growth economic model will need to factor in Zero Population Growth.

The planet is FINITE, so an infinite economic growth model is DOA.

[curse914]

by gulliberal June 16, 2009 4:20 PM PDT
Nevermind the FACT that the earth is moving toward and will cross the galactic equator in about 3 years - this happens roughly every 25000-26000 years - try google for more information. Nevermind the FACT that ice is melting on planet MARS at a faster than average rate - not too SUV's on MARS. Liberalism = junk science and chicken little scare tactics - whatta JOKE!!!

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We are in an unusually long solar minimum, nimrod. The earth should be cooling not warming. That would indicate some other factor is modifying the climate. Even very presence of a city creates its own micro-climate. But somehow it is beyond the comprehension of the average god worshiper that we could be responsible for Climate Change.

Give me a link to your supposed "science".

[curse914]

by Libertarian1776 June 16, 2009 12:23 PM PDT
"Globol warming or climate change is hog wash!
Of course the shoddy scientist's will follow money!
It's a new form of tax, a shell game that Al Gore is getting rich with.

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So you are ok with paying 3 bucks and more at the pump to enrich Saudi. The very Saudis who sent their sons to knock down the towers.