Comments on: As Planet Warms, Bird Species Move North

Survey: Half Of Bird Species Spend Winter Further North Than They Did 40 Years Ago

[ajmarine111]

One other sign of a gentle warming going on - forty years ago you couldn''''t grow grapes in England. Now there are vinyards in Yorkshire, 200 miles north of the Channel.

Posted by usclimey at 07:08 PM : Feb 10, 2009






At the time of the compilation of the Domesday Survey in the late eleventh century, vineyards were recorded in 46 places in southern England, from East Anglia through to modern-day Somerset. By the time King Henry VIIIth ascended the throne there were 139 sizeable vineyards in England and Wales - 11 of them owned by the Crown, 67 by noble families and 52 by the church.

It is not exactly clear why the number of vineyards declined subsequently. Some have put it down to an adverse change in the weather which made an uncertain enterprise even more problematic. Others have linked it with the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII. Both these factors may have had some part to play but in all probability the decline was gradual (over several centuries) and for more complex reasons

[timbuckthree]

The finch moved further north by 400 miles. Other birds migrated a whole 35 miles?! In 40 years no less. Now that IS impressive. You guys are going to have to do better than that to prove global warming. That''''s not even scary.
Posted by scottyusa at 07:03 PM :

Alright then, let''s have you walk across a lake in Iowa in January, 30 years ago you could

[rheola-2009]

Posted by yellow651 at 05:56 PM : Feb 10, 2009

Yes, you are in part so correct.

They should open their eyes, and look at the world around them, then they would see that there is little doubt of the credible climate scientists [the vast majority] being correct, this world is indeed in trouble, there are so many climate connected catastrophe''s continually happening, that surely the most ardent denier must soon admit they are possibly wrong.

Climate change is not necessarily always indicated by heating, as we have seen by the extraordinary weather events throughout the world, it is evidenced in the many abnormal such events.

[usclimey]

One other sign of a gentle warming going on - forty years ago you couldn''t grow grapes in England. Now there are vinyards in Yorkshire, 200 miles north of the Channel.

[usclimey]

How exactly do the believers measure ice thickness and geese flight routes? How ridiculous and gullible believers are!

Posted by Mihann

It''s called observation using open eyes as opposed to blind ignorance with closed minds.

[scottyusa]

The finch moved further north by 400 miles. Other birds migrated a whole 35 miles?! In 40 years no less. Now that IS impressive. You guys are going to have to do better than that to prove global warming. That''s not even scary.

[bobbyduck1]

It is too late to make the short term changes to our environment to make a difference in less than 10,000 years. People better wake up to this fact and stop wasting money trying to fix this and start adapting life styles to ensure that when the water rises you are not living on the coastline when it happens.

Posted by ihateislam at 06:08 PM : Feb 10, 2009

Sure, that''s it. Bury our heads in the sand, shrug our shoulders and ruin what''s left for our grandkids. That''ll help. Sounds as closeminded as your embicilic screen-name - gee you wouldn''t be a neo-wack right-winger would you?

[bobbyduck1]

Last year, Michigan had almost 50 percent more snow than average. This year it''''s on a pace to beat that. The birds ain''''t coming to Michigan.

Posted by sMT451D at 05:46 PM : Feb 10, 2009

It snows more at 26 degrees than at 15...just another sign of warming

[mttee12]

This is another validation of what climate scientists have been telling us. Science has a way of prevailing over prejudice and delusion.

[kirstinharr]

We are less than 200 miles from the Canadian border and have birds all year long here. That did not happen even 20 years ago. Either the birds have become cold tolerant or the temperatures just aren''t as cold...