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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:23 AM EST
Answer:

There are 6.7 billion people on the planet today.

There were only a tiny fraction of that number during the last major climatic change.


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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:20 AM EST
The earth has never stood still, the climate has constantly changed and will continue to constantly change, there are signs of mass migrations through time without the people returning to their original sites, why? Most likely explanation is that the "climate" in their area became uninhabitable, by either intense heat or intense cold.

Posted by DebinOK1


Yes, you are correct!

But what is difference between the past and the present? Why is it such a big deal now?


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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:19 AM EST
The extreme view says 4.5 billion, the less extreme view says 1.2 billion, it all depends on the scientist. See scientists can infer what they will into their research in many different ways and have them all be valid with the statistics each uses.

Posted by DebinOK1


The consensus is 4.5 billion years, no serious disagreement on that point.


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by debinok1 December 23, 2008 12:18 AM EST
The extreme view says 4.5 billion, the less extreme view says 1.2 billion, it all depends on the scientist. See scientists can infer what they will into their research in many different ways and have them all be valid with the statistics each uses.
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by debinok1 December 23, 2008 12:15 AM EST
The earth has never stood still, the climate has constantly changed and will continue to constantly change, there are signs of mass migrations through time without the people returning to their original sites, why? Most likely explanation is that the "climate" in their area became uninhabitable, by either intense heat or intense cold.
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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:14 AM EST
How old is the Earth?

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Best estimates say a little over a billion years, and during that time how many "climates" have existed?

Posted by DebinOK1



Nope.
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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:13 AM EST
And who do you think the Forest service answers to? The EPA.

Posted by DebinOK1


Nope.
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by debinok1 December 23, 2008 12:09 AM EST
How old is the Earth?

Posted by troutfisher4
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Best estimates say a little over a billion years, and during that time how many "climates" have existed?
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by debinok1 December 23, 2008 12:07 AM EST
Ummm, the Forest Service is in charge of that program.

Posted by troutfisher4
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And who do you think the Forest service answers to? The EPA.
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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:07 AM EST
You people dont get it and never will, fear rules your thinking. The planet changes all the time, it has been doing it for centuries, if it hadnt we wouldnt find sea fossils in the deserts or in the mountains. Climate change theory is an attempt to stop nature. They are trying to prevent the need to migrate. To maintain what has been built since we cant take it with us.

Posted by DebinOK1


How old is the Earth?


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by debinok1 December 23, 2008 12:05 AM EST
You people dont get it and never will, fear rules your thinking. The planet changes all the time, it has been doing it for centuries, if it hadnt we wouldnt find sea fossils in the deserts or in the mountains. Climate change theory is an attempt to stop nature. They are trying to prevent the need to migrate. To maintain what has been built since we cant take it with us.
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by troutfisher4 December 23, 2008 12:01 AM EST
And if the EPA was really interested in protecting the whole enviroment, they would leave the wild fires alone, since they are interfering with the reproduction cycle of some plants that NEED to burn to go to seed.

Posted by DebinOK1


Ummm, the Forest Service is in charge of that program.


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by debinok1 December 22, 2008 11:59 PM EST
And if the EPA was really interested in protecting the whole enviroment, they would leave the wild fires alone, since they are interfering with the reproduction cycle of some plants that NEED to burn to go to seed.
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by troutfisher4 December 22, 2008 11:57 PM EST
More important is what they found when it did, it wasnt always ice, people used to LIVE there and GREW FOOD. So that "climate" shifted at least once in the recent past. So why wouldnt it do so again.

Posted by DebinOK1


WELL! That settles it, then.
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by debinok1 December 22, 2008 11:56 PM EST
Illinois used to be covered by a glacier, look at it now, the climate shifted, now its prarie land.
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by debinok1 December 22, 2008 11:54 PM EST
Make up your mind. If climate change is bogus like you said, why would it melt?

Posted by troutfisher4
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More important is what they found when it did, it wasnt always ice, people used to LIVE there and GREW FOOD. So that "climate" shifted at least once in the recent past. So why wouldnt it do so again.
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by troutfisher4 December 22, 2008 11:51 PM EST
And greenland has always been covered in ice, right? The fact that it is melting is devastating.

Posted by DebinOK1


Make up your mind. If climate change is bogus like you said, why would it melt?


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by debinok1 December 22, 2008 11:50 PM EST
Just put on your tinfoil hat, it will be OK....

Posted by troutfisher4
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And greenland has always been covered in ice, right? The fact that it is melting is devastating.
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by troutfisher4 December 22, 2008 11:48 PM EST
Climate change is bogus, the EPA has no real idea of where the level of anything should be, the hole in the ozone is man made but not by CFCs, by all the flames we keep shooting through it when we launch the satellites and shuttles.

Posted by DebinOK1



Just put on your tinfoil hat, it will be OK....

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by debinok1 December 22, 2008 11:44 PM EST
Climate change is bogus, the EPA has no real idea of where the level of anything should be, the hole in the ozone is man made but not by CFCs, by all the flames we keep shooting through it when we launch the satellites and shuttles.
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