Comments on: Giant Ice Shelf Breaks Off In Arctic
Ice Chunk Spanning 7 Square Miles Is Largest Piece To Break Off Since 2005
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- Posted by nojoy01 at 07:18 PM : Jul 30, 2008
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All fair assumptions, I would think NoJOY - Reply to this comment
- Thanks ZykraCosmos. That''s a little scary.
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- I do not expect to change any minds. However, I DO expect to have some fun with those that post nonsense or ideas that are not logical.
Posted by jimfinster at 06:45 PM : Jul 30, 2008
(Sigh) Apparently what we have here is ''failure to communicate''. With that in mind here is what I believe re: Global Warming.
A) The average Global temperature is warmer now than it was 150 years ago. That is undisputable fact.
B) The Global Environment is a complex & delicately interrelated system that approaches, if not exceeds, the complexity of biological life.
C) Whether or not human beings are *entirely* responsible for this climatic change is still open for *debate*.
D) Human beings *are* responsible for the increasing speed of the climatic change.
E) Rational discourse with ''nonbelievers'' is the only way to successfully change ''their'' minds.
F) No amount of discussion, rants, or raving will change anything one iota untill/unless the ''faithful'' become political & social activists.
G) It is like the 60''s all over again. If you want to change what is wrong then people have to get involved with politics.
That is what I believe jfinster. And if you ''don''t expect to change and minds'' then you are just feeding your ego in this forum.
Oh yeah,
H) Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and was solely responsible for the death of John F. Kennedy. - Reply to this comment
- Void, JimFinster...
I want to add something to the ocean acidification topic...
Not only are huge amounts of CO2 being absorbed by the oceans (most of what we put in the air gets absorbed in the oceans), but if/when we reach the threshold of temperature changes in the depths of the oceans that allow the thawing of the methane cathrates, there will be even more CO2 in the oceans, and catastrophic acidification. This happened during the Permian Extinction event, when almost ALL life in the oceans perished, and 95% of all life on earth perished. When methane is released at the ocean''s depths, much of it is converted into CO2 as it rises towards the surface, increasing the acidity of the oceans far beyond their levels from surface CO2 absorption. - Reply to this comment
- The fossil record shows that many species have come and gone before us. Why should humans be any different?
Posted by jimfinster
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Because we appear to be the only ones with the ability to plan. I expect more from us. - Reply to this comment
- Something I did not previously know and in fact it took me quite by surprise when I began researching climate change: Ocean environments are far more vulnerable than land based ones. I would like to see any data anyone could point me to on the effects global warming is having on ocean life.
Posted by VoidMaster
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To add to what JimFinster said..
There are an abundance of articles (just Google it) about ocean acidification due to CO2 absorbtion, but one of the most recent and thorough reviews of the current summaries of research in this area are provided by New Scientist, Scientific American, and even Discover Magazine. - Reply to this comment
- There is huge worry right now due to increased acidity because of CO2 absorption. It is quickly killing off coral, and also seems to inhibit shell formation in many crustaceans....
Posted by jimfinster
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Oh great.
How ironic that our species ascended to such heights only to possibly go the way of the dinosaur; all in a fraction of the time that the average dinosaur species lived upon Earth.
Posted by VoidMaster
The fossil record shows that many species have come and gone before us. Why should humans be any different? - Reply to this comment
- random_radar:
The Arctic ice cap has shrunk by an area twice the size of France''s land mass over the last two years, the Paris-based National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS) said Wednesday.
"The year 2008 promises to be a critical year on every level," said Jean-Claude Gascard, the body''s research director and coordinator of European scientific mission Damocles, which is monitoring the effects of climate change across the Arctic.
September 2007 measurements show ice covering 4.13 million square kilometres (1.6 million square miles), down from 5.3 million square kilometres in 2005.
"Melting could result in the loss of another million in one (2008) summer," he added at a press conference. - Reply to this comment
- There is huge worry right now due to increased acidity because of CO2 absorption. It is quickly killing off coral, and also seems to inhibit shell formation in many crustaceans....
Posted by jimfinster
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Oh great.
How ironic that our species ascended to such heights only to possibly go the way of the dinosaur; all in a fraction of the time that the average dinosaur species lived upon Earth. - Reply to this comment
- Random Radar,
Figures don''t lie.........
but liars can figure. - Reply to this comment
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