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[ubrew12]

bretster7 said: "Yeah can''''t grow much sugar in the U.S Ha "
Find Hawaii on a map of the Pacific. You can''t grow much sugar in America. Brazil gets 4 crops a year, growing it year ''round. America gets in 1 crop a year over most of her surface.

Ask Bush why he slaps a 54 cent/gallon tarrif on Brazilian ethanol. Our ethanol program overcharges drivers to send welfare to Bush''s farmer buddies: reliable Republican voters feeding on the gov''t teets again (like corporations, defense, red-states in general, etc).

[bretster7]

ubrew said,
I didn''''t say grow, I said use. To use it, it must exist in significant amounts.


I does exist in significant amounts, and we could grow more if it was not for the gov''t restrictions imposed by FDR. So if we can''t grow it as you suggest, how come one of the major sugar co''s is called C&H sugar. The C stands for California, and the H stands for Hawaii. Yeah can''t grow much sugar in the U.S Ha

[ubrew12]

bretster7 said: "Tell that to the cane growers in the southeast, and Puerto Rico. I bet they dont know that they cant grow sugar cane.LOL "

I didn''t say grow, I said use. To use it, it must exist in significant amounts.

[bretster7]

if the repuibliCons told you to dress up like a monkey and dance in the street , you''''d do it.

Of course you dumbicrats never do what your party dictates, you are all such free thinkers.LOL

[bretster7]

ubrew said,
We cant use sugar cane because of our latitude, Brazil is right on the equator. 3-4 crops a year.


Tell that to the cane growers in the southeast, and Puerto Rico. I bet they don''t know that they can''t grow sugar cane.LOL

[kaylag04]

(not-so) Joyous88 wrote "..if the repuibliCons told you to dress up like a monkey and dance in the street , you''''d do it."

They did, and I did - but all the lights were out and I bumped into a lamp-post; messed up my monkey suit real bad.

[ubrew12]

bretster7 said: "We cant use sugar cane for production because the price is artificially high due to subsidies...you will never admit your own partys failings will you?"
We cant use sugar cane because of our latitude, Brazil is right on the equator. 3-4 crops a year.

[joyous88]

I see that the oil companies have their stooges working the posting boards this morning,

if the repuibliCons told you to dress up like a monkey and dance in the street , you''d do it.

[bretster7]

Of course you would find a way to blame Bush, but who drafted the legislation to sign? Thats right the congress, and we all know that none of them, especially the holier than thou dems do not have lobbiest buddies. But you fail to address the following.

The reason that Brazil is so efficient at making ethanol is they use sugar cane. We can''''t use sugar cane for production because the price is artificially high due to subsidies that have been in place since FDR, and congress (mainly the Dem''''s) refuse to due away with the subsidies.

Of course you will never admit your own party''s failings will you?

BTW-BTU and Joules are both measurements of energy

[ubrew12]

bretster7 said: "How many of the lib''''s who think ethanol is the savior of mankind ...know that it takes more BTUs to make a gallon of ethanol (from corn) than you get when you burn it. "
I suspect it was libs that first discovered this. To understand somethings limitations you have to first be enthusiastic enough about its advantages to investigate it, and conservatives have traditionally promoted fossil fuels over ''green'' fuels until recently. Hence, since only libs were actually looking, they probably discovered the problem first. But NOT before Bush saw a way to send more tax dollars to his buddies at the corn lobby. None of them has cared about ethanol from the start (except for killing brain cells).

BTUs and Joules are both units of energy.
1J = 9.479E-4 Btu