Comments on: U.N. Chief Warns Of Water Shortages

Secretary-General Says Scarcity Of Water Contributes To Armed Conflicts, Poverty

[erasmus6]

"I actually used to be totally on board with manmade global warming, however, when I went to look information because I really wanted to understand the science of why, I was amazed at what are nothing less that opinions based on observations and not cause and affect relationships." posted by pboskovich

You are full of c-r-a-p. If you had really researched it you would have found the information. I don''t believe that you were ever on board.

[erasmus6]

"If Canada wants to export its water to the US who are we to stop them. Its their water isn''''t it. If they do not then I guess the US will have to get it from somewhere else." posted by pboskovich


Hahaha, you don'' REALLY think that Canada WANTS to give the U.S. water, do you? It means that we could run short one day.

And just where do you think the U.S. is going to get their water? MEXICO? If that is the case, why aren''t they already doing it?


"Desalinization, conservation, recycled water, finding more efficient ways to farm are all viable answers."


Well then why aren''t you doing this already? Why are you using up our resources? You aren''t even willing to clean up your pollution or whatever, what makes you think that you will be able to do something about your water? Geez.

[pboskovich]

nonyabiz2

I actually used to be totally on board with manmade global warming, however, when I went to look information because I really wanted to understand the science of why, I was amazed at what are nothing less that opinions based on observations and not cause and affect relationships. I know the whole world is on board with this and that simply is not true. I think you will find many scientific skptics if you look for them.

The problem is that it has become so poticacally incorrect to speak up against manmade global warming anyone who does speak out are black balled and pressured into submission. It is like facisism.

The computer models are completely flawed, there is a complete disregard for real science and anytime a skeptic tries to debate the issue, supporters of MMGW make personal attackes as say we are the equivilent of holocost deniers.

I will ask again. What study shows that the increase in manmade CO2 causes MMGW? You cannot answer this question. I want to conserve the earth too, but not based on flawed conputer models.

[pboskovich]

erasmus6

Sorry for the delay. I actually have a life outside of this blog.

If Canada wants to export its water to the US who are we to stop them. Its their water isn''t it. If they do not then I guess the US will have to get it from somewhere else. Its called supply and demand. Desalinization, conservation, recycled water, finding more efficient ways to farm are all viable answers.

What you still need to understand, however, is that it is not a global warming issue. It is an issue of how mankind uses the earth''s resources. Stop using manmade global warming as a smokescreen to change man''s behavior. If you looked beyond the main stream media bias you would know the evidence against manmade global warming is getting stronger every year if not every month.

I think we both agree that we need to conserve the earth, but focusing on the fiction of manmade global warming will not do it. Conservation must be based on real science or it will fail.

tucanofulano: The CO2 that animals exhale have been a part of the carbon cycle for many millions of years. It doesn''t affect the climate. CO2 found in fossil fuels has NOT been part of the carbon cycle - burning it puts it INTO the carbon cycle, thus warming the atmosphere.

curse914: T. Boone Pickens is investing in water. Fortunes will be made in water. "Pickens and a group of more than 100 landowners formed Mesa Water in 1999 to develop groundwater from the Ogallala Aquifer under Roberts County in the far northeastern Texas Panhandle. Today, Mesa Water is prepared to sell 320,000 acre-feet of aquifer water per year to regions that desperately need it."

Farmers in So Cal are already trying to figure out how to sell their subsized water at a profit, rather than using it to farm.

Tampa Bay''s desalination plant is turning out 25 million gallons of water a day. If the day comes when desalinized water is the ONLY source of drinking water, you can bet your bippy people will be scrambling over themselves to pay for it.

[erasmus6]

Posted by nonyabiz2 at 02:15 PM : Jan 26, 2008


Hmm, asking a question is stirring up trouble?

Also there have been many things written and posted on this site giving statistics and proof but the deniers never read them, so what is the point? One thing I have come to learn is that there is absolutely no point in discussing anything with someone that is in major denial.

It must be nice living in denial.

The whole world is on board with this, only the U.S. is in major denial. That''s pretty funny, isn''t it, considering the Americans are the biggest polluters and emitters of C02?

Nope, when the time comes when things get bad, the U.S. will be the ones that deserve NO HELP.

[tucano2]

Co2 is exhaled by humans among others. Humans convinced Co2 is killing planet Earth are invited to simply stop breathing
permanently. Practically any plastic bag will do the job in under 5 minutes, less if duct tape is used to reduce leakage.

[bcweitzel]

Erasmus: you gonna answer my question? Pboskovich is still waiting for his too...

Oh, you got nothin? That''s what I thought.

[bcweitzel]

Erasums- do you have a job? I mean, every time I look at a comment page you''re always stirring up trouble...

Yes, the US gets some water from Canada, but it has ALWAYS been that way. Even before present day Canadians claimed their country from the natives there have been rivers such as the Columbia that originate as tributaries in Canada and end up going through what is now called the US.

And I don''t know about where you''re at, but at least here (and I live in a desert) last year we were average if not a little higher in average precipitation.

As far as Global Warming, you have to understand where they are getting the whole idea that "the Earth is Warming". They are observing frozen ice chunks and how much CO2 is entrapt in it. They did not have reliable thermometer (measured) data for much more than a few hundred years, which, while comparing it to the age of the Earth at 4 billion years, is very MINISCULE.

Instead, we are looking at the CO2 levels in ice and extrapolating from only ONE potential indicator (which has not been totally scientifically proven to correlate with global warming) and including our few hundred years of temperature data to say that we are on a warming trend. Not only is it poor science, it is immoral and wrong to represent the data as a fact and not a theory.

[bcweitzel]

Moreover, if we are on a warming trend, there are thousands of contributing factors besides CO2 that enter into the equation. Solar output, distance to the sun, geothermal output, volcanic output, and the tilt of the Earth are just a few.

But no, instead "environmentalists" tell the logging industry that they can no longer go into forests and selectively log and debrush the forests. Then, about in July or August, WE STAND BACK AND WATCH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF FORESTS TO BURN. So much for decreasing CO2 emmissions, huh? Hundreds of thousands of tons of CO2 emitted into our atmosphere, not to mention all of that thermal polution!

Might want to read http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20070315&articleId=5086, which, might I add, is from a website in CANADA, regarding this topic.

Remember, just a few decades ago they were claiming we were wearing holes in the ozone with CFC''s and causing a global cooling. Never mind that CFC''s are more dense than standard air and have a tendancy to stay near the ground... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much for your "scientific facts".

[erasmus6]

pboskovich

Are you going to answer my question?

[pboskovich]

erasmus6

Can you tell me what study demonstrates the connection between a raise in CO2 anbd global warming? You cannot because there is none.

Look, the earth is diffinately in a crisis stage, but until we start using real science and not politically contrived opinions we will never fix the problems.

[erasmus6]

The U.S. is already getting water from Canada. So now because of the climate change their water shortage will become worse. So that means they will be wanting even more water. Tell me, should Canada have to supply water to a country that is in denial about global warming and isn''t doing anything about the problem? Hmmm, I don''t think so.

[downsteamjim]

Curse914: Lighten up and post back when the UN accomplishes something positive.

[downsteamjim]

I find it interesting that the folks who are cynical of opinions or projects that may genuinely benefit society in an egalitarian way have a hard time turning that cynical eye on their own %u201Cleaders%u201D. In other words their critical thinking skills, ironically, are myopic and self destructive.

Posted by curse914 at 10:55 AM : Jan 26, 2008


Thanks curse914: I repeated this phrase three times and all of the fleas fell off my dog.

downsteamjim: For how many years has mankind withdrawn enormous amounts of water from underground aquifers? About 100. We''re sucking the planet dry faster than it is able to replenish itself. Much of southeast asia has historically taken its water from the spring thaw of mountain glaciers. Those glaciers are vanishing. Forget the UN - read for yourself. Google Ogallalah Aquifer. It supplies most of the fresh water for the central US. And it''s going dry.

[downsteamjim]

It seems as though the U.N. has discovered a new problem. At what point in the last 100; 1000; or whenever years was there no droughts. At the U.N.; Greenpeace; etc. there is always an upcoming end of the world. Chicken Little was right.

[beehive21-2009]

Man is a short time guest on the planet Earth , and shall kill each other before he ruins the Earth.

curse914: I''m not disagreeing with you. We are going to see severe water shortages around the globe. Water doesn''t contain calories, but without it, we''re dead. The North American aquifers are in serious trouble. The Ogallala aquifer is being depleted - and now that T Boone Pickens is planning on sucking out massive amounts of water to sell - it''s going to be depleted even more quickly. Desalination is the only way to go, and we need to start building more plants. It is working in Tampa Bay, but we need more plants.