Comments on: Scientists: Most Polar Bears Dead By 2050

Government Scientists Project Two-Thirds Drop In Bear Population Due To Global Warming

[my2centss]

Just think 50,000,000 years ago we had global cooling(ice age), and really messed up the earth then too. Maybe we should fix that and bring back all the things we made go away, like dinosaurs, pre-historic man, polio, black plague, wooly mamouth, and all the other things that have been made extinct.

[hawksprings]

Hey jimfinster and erasmus, sorry I missed all the fun. Was busy yesterday.

Today it''s 41 right now, with a high of 55, snow tonight down to 7000 feet... brrrrrrr. I just started a fire in the fireplace... with real wood. Felt the need to release some more CO2. We need some global warming around here... Wyoming''s always last to get everything!!!!

erasmus, if you and Michelle want to hit me over the head with a 2x4, my wife would probably volunteer to help.

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[hungry1968]

It''s kind of ironic that at the G8 summit on global warming earlier this year, Bush proposed implementing new environmental standards to be started by 2050. I said then, "Why would we create standards that won''t fully take effect for 43 years from now?"
It just shows how out of touch this administration is on such issues. Another example is they refuse to call it "global warming". They only refer to it as "Climate Change".

[erasmus6]

MichelleM99

I would never hit hawksprings over the head with a 2x4, I was just kidding. I just like to bug him!

I read your verse you wrote earlier, that was great! You like to play solitaire? Me too! I also like to play a game called MahJongg.

[jimfinster]

It''''s called evolution, or do government scientists believe in "creation science" instead?
Posted by OlGreyGhost at 06:51 PM : Sep 08, 2007

Better brush up on your science there, olgreygoat.

[michellem99-2009]

erasmus6..Yer can''t talk sense in to some people.
Nor using that there 2x4 would as that is violance and the poor soul will just get pissed.
Yer a good lady best be checking the various places for the verses I write as you do like them and ye may keep in a notebook as you just give me credit...
Gramma ,We all animals just a higher form that can think and do. I was taught we are no better than the person, Lesson not taught to today''s children and young adults.
In the 70s I read in my brother''s text book that in future the seasons would change if we did not do anything to change our lifestyles. And most have not. So this is it. It will get worse. The oil will run out . I would say 10 years at the most. You are not conserving it. More and more cars that eat it up. That war in the middle east is over oil. That I believe at my age. I surely is not crying wolf. I watch the educational programmes here in America.
We never had heat waves years ago. We had blue sky not hazy ones. We had snow back home. My parents still live in Maine. No snow in most parts. In the 60s ,70s,80s there was snow..Today none..Figger that will ya..

[erasmus6]

"Most people need to be whacked over the head with a two by four before they''ll pay attention to anything." posted by sparks224

Hmmm,well, I don''t know if hitting hawksprings over the head with a two by four will work, but we could certainly give it a try!:)

[ubrew12]

sblake63 said: "Perhaps they [polar bears] lived in the northern areas where it has always been colder".

You can''t get much further north than the north pole, which is where they live. Their fur color shows they''re adapted to white for background, like the arctic fox or the ptarmigan (in winter). But clearly they need ice there to walk on. No ice, no polar bear. No polar bear, no ice. Since the polar bear''s been around for 200,000 years, there''s been ice on the N pole for that amount of time. It''ll be gone by mid-century.

Yeah, that''s a big deal. At least, its unique in the last 200,000 years.

[ubrew12]

OlGreyGhost said: "They ]polar bears] will breed [with Southern brown bears] and have hybrid cubs."

I don''t think they can. Usually, different species can''t interbreed. Different varieties can, different genus can''t.

[erasmus6]

Did I not hear that the NORTH will become warmer faster than everywhere else?

[jimfinster]

For those of you who think this does not matter:

Species in decline represent "canaries in the mine" for the human race. The polar bears are just one of many species currently being affected. I have seen estimates that we could lose 50% of all species in the next 50 years.

These changes will ultimately affect humans in a variety of ways, mostly via food production and potable water availability. This is all going to happen about the same time as the looming peak oil crisis. I am not a "doomsday" kinda guy, but this is going to get ugly. Forget your neocon vs liberal ***, this will be about survival.

[olgreyghost]

The southern bear species will move farther north as the climate warms and southern males will come across female polar bears in heat. They will breed and have hybrid cubs. These cubs will intermingle with each other or with others related to their darker furred parent and will have darker fur offspring. The polar bears will not just starve to death. They''re not that stupid. They will breed themselves into extinction...

It''s called evolution, or do government scientists believe in "creation science" instead?

[sblake63]

According to http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/b
ear-facts/polar-bear-evolution/:
"The polar bear probably first appeared roughly 200,000 years ago, during the Pleistocene."

Thus, the arctic has had ice on it at least for the last 200,000 years.

Still think global warming is just another blip in the climate?
Posted by ubrew12 at 05:18 PM : Sep 08, 2007

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Messed up logic there ****. Quoting info from a animal rights/environmentalist web site? Lets say that they are right and they have been around 200,000 years. How does that prove there was always ice up there in their habitat? Perhaps they lived in the northern areas where it has always been colder and when the ice formed they adapted and moved out onto the ice?

Think things thru logically before you spout off bull LMAO!

Next?

[sparks224]

Most people need to be whacked over the head with a two by four before they%u2019ll pay attention to anything.
In the case of global warming, the two by four hasn%u2019t quite made contact with the scull yet.
It%u2019s going to be hilarious (and too late) when it finally does.

[sparks224]

For thousands of years Man has been battling Mother Nature.
Well, now that we finally have her on the ropes, let%u2019s finish her off once and for all!
Then everything will be fine.

[jimfinster]

What a shame some of these cry baby enviromentalists wont go the same way the polor bears do.. Extinct!

Posted by sblake63 at 12:57 PM : Sep 08, 2007

Let''s all work together to make the neocons extinct first :)

[ubrew12]

According to http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/bear-facts/polar-bear-evolution/:
"The polar bear probably first appeared roughly 200,000 years ago, during the Pleistocene."

Thus, the arctic has had ice on it at least for the last 200,000 years.

Still think global warming is just another blip in the climate?

[grammawhamma]

Yes, including humans. Do you say "so what" to that?


Posted by jimfinster at 03:31 PM : Sep 08, 2007

Yes...I do. You are also an animal...no better then a bear. Human animals just think they are better then the other species...kind of like the pope thinks he runs the only true church.

[jimfinster]

So What! It''''s called evolution, species that can''''t adapt always become extinct as they have since the dawn of time.
Posted by lorinkundert at 02:24 PM : Sep 08, 2007

Yes, including humans. Do you say "so what" to that?

[michellem99-2009]

We Each Are The Caretakers.
By Barbara Ann.
I sit and ponder.
Of the earth that is home.
From my window I can
see the changes.
The pretty blue sky
of my childhood is gone.
I do miss its colour.
Today it a hazy blue.
As I walk to the places.
I notice the heat.
More so as it is pavements.
I feel the heat from them.
They never really cool down.
Years they were not there.
The car is every where.
Everyone in a hurry.
I wait for my ride.
The mode drivers
where rather it not be.
Mass transit bus.
I happily board.
Greet the driver.
Pay my fare and sit.
As I find a seat and
fold my white cane
I am thankful for that bus.
As I debus I thank the driver
Go tapping towards home.
At home I sit at computer
reading the news,letters.
Just relax playing a paw.
Computer dutiful deal
a paw of solitaire.
I have a deck to play
the old way ,
It is easier on computer.
They ask why the changes
and the heat.
Years ago it was in the 60s and 70s.
Today not so.
IF it had remained
mostly pavement free.
And few cars running
roads it would still be cool.
In winter it don''t snow.
It DID snow years ago.
I used shovel it.
Now it is easier to get about.
I wonder HAVE we damsged our world.
Is it truly too late to save her.
I can see the need for a simple
lifestyle where greed is done away.
So I ponder it.I am only one person.
There many who can make a difference.
If money was not the issue.

PLEASE GIVE BARBARA ANN CREDIT IF YOU USE IT.