Comments on: Evolutionary Theory Challenged By Fossils

Discovery In Africa Suggests Two Early Species Of Man Lived Side By Side For Half-Million Years

[sy2502]

You atheists fear death also. You have more to fear however because you have no assurance of where you are going.
Posted by singinrick at 07:43 PM : Aug 10, 2007

WRONG! Death is simply the end, you don't go anywhere, therefore there is nothing to fear. Death is a natural and necessary occurrence. Is it sad? Of course, especially if you have a full and interesting life with many friends and family left behind. But sadness is not fear. Religion is the one that invented fear of death, preaching about hell and eternal suffering, and used it to its advantage to control people.
Religious people see being good as a mean to an end: salvation from hell. That isn't morality, that's coercion.

[kansas1946]

LOL. Evolution itself is not a theory. The straight-line of evolution was the theory. That one homonid evolved into another in a straight line.
Evolution is the fact.
Natural selection is one theory. The best one.

Natural selection is not disputed by getting
rid of the straight-line theory, and actually
I always a bit of a problem with the straight-line theory. My personal "Theory" of evolution is that it was a lot messier than a straight line and these fossels reinforce my theory.

[sy2502]

And that is what religions are all about. The fear of death, trying to make order of a chaotic universe, the desire for eternal life. Organized religion was created to address these things.
Posted by jimfinster at 06:44 PM : Aug 10, 2007

They fear death, so they wish there was something else beyond it. And they think that wishful thinking becomes reality if you wish it badly enough. Let me see if it works with wishing of winning the lottery...

Oh, and have you noticed I didn't get any answers to my questions? Funny uh? Do you know what's even funnier? That so far no christian has been able to answer them! They squirm a lot, they try to dodge them, they change subject, they counterattack with totally unrelated questions... But never a nice straight answer. It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[nggr]

And that is what religions are all about. The fear of death, trying to make order of a chaotic universe, the desire for eternal life. Organized religion was created to address these things.

perfect, thank you

[nggr]

And that is what religions are all about. The fear of death, trying to make order of a chaotic universe, the desire for eternal life. Organized religion was created to address these things.

perfect, thank you

[jimfinster]

That we came from nothing, that the universe and all the planets and galaxies just "Decided" to exist on their own, that our lives are meaningless accidents, that we "evolved" from a piece of pond scum, and that there is no God who loves us and wants us to have eternal life...and also that when you die, you just rot....and nothing happens.
Posted by singinrick

And that is what religions are all about. The fear of death, trying to make order of a chaotic universe, the desire for eternal life. Organized religion was created to address these things.

No wonder that people become so fanatical and irrational...

[nggr]

we arent saying we come from nothing, jeez, you sure like to put words in peoples mouths, typical of a christian whos beliefs are falling apart.
we come from everything. did you know that the amount of mass in the universe is equal to the amount of energy?
this means we come from everything.
we are part of a much bigger picture and its scary and exciting. the fun part is dicovering how it happened, not just kicking back, being lazy and stupid and proclaiming god did it.
serously, the human race will go nowhere but to its own destruction if everyone thought like you. have you ever debated a muslim? if so then you know how i feel right now. everything that you type is full of ignorance and denial of the obseervable world around you, all due to some book some man told you was the truth.
you know that feeling of "the lord" that you have, that convinces you that "he" is the truth, thats a perfectly natural feeling that everyone experiances, its just that you are to stupid to know it comes from you and not"jesus"
people have real pwer, your book only has the power you give it.

[nggr]

we arent saying we come from nothing, jeez, you sure like to put words in peoples mouths, typical of a christian whos beliefs are falling apart.
we come from everything. did you know that the amount of mass in the universe is equal to the amount of energy?
this means we come from everything.
we are part of a much bigger picture and its scary and exciting. the fun part is dicovering how it happened, not just kicking back, being lazy and stupid and proclaiming god did it.
serously, the human race will go nowhere but to its own destruction if everyone thought like you. have you ever debated a muslim? if so then you know how i feel right now. everything that you type is full of ignorance and denial of the obseervable world around you, all due to some book some man told you was the truth.
you know that feeling of "the lord" that you have, that convinces you that "he" is the truth, thats a perfectly natural feeling that everyone experiances, its just that you are to stupid to know it comes from you and not"jesus"
people have real pwer, your book only has the power you give it.

[jimfinster]

Brilliant choice you've made jim. Good night.
Posted by singinrick at 06:25 PM : Aug 10, 2007

Good night, John Boy. Sweet dreams about supernatural events.

[nggr]

all of these people have something in common.
can you guess what it is rick.
btw, they all came BEFORE jesus. he os just one in a long, LONG line of solar deities.
can you explain this rick? or will you just ignore FACTS ACTUAL FACTS
i bet you will

[nggr]

He was:
* allegedly born on December 25th
* was born of the Sun God and a virgin mother
* created all life by slaying a bull, whose blood gave life to all useful things, hence the song, "Thou hast redeemed us by shedding the eternal blood." from an Avestan Hymn to Mithras
* considered the saviour of humankind, and stories abound of His healing the sick, raising the dead, and performing miracles (making the blind see and the lame walk)
* protector of human souls, a mediator between "heaven" and "earth" and was even associated with a "holy trinity"
* keeper of the covenant with mankind
* put to death on a cross and buried in a cave (some legends have Him held up in a cave to be reborn once a year)
* took part in a last supper with his 12 disciples (often associated with the 12 signs of the zodiac)
* ascended to the heavens to watch over His "flock" from above.
* was known as "The Way," "The Truth," "The Light," "The Life," "The Word," "The Son of God," and "The Good Shepherd"
* often pictured carrying a lamb on his shoulders
Mithraists believe:
* On judgement day, the faithful dead would be resurrected and light would triumph over darkness. They took part in ritual purification or baptism, held Sundays sacred, drank wine and ate bread as a symbol of the body and blood and even took part in ritualistic purging (purification rites such as flagellation).
* there is a "celestial heaven" and hell

[nggr]

Mithras

According to the Book of Origins, the Canon of the Mithrasic faith, "the universe was created through Mithras, and Mithras was born into the world to save humanity from the attacks of the evil one, Ahriman, who was opposed to human beings. Mithras released the goodness Ahriman had stolen from humanity, and then died to the world, going to the underworld to destroy the servants of Ahriman and bind Ahriman there forever. Then He returned to the earth to teach humanity His commandments and begin Mysteries and Rites which would help humans remember His acts on our behalf. Because of His actions, we can choose good without the overwhelming power of evil, even though evil's influence can still seem powerful because our minds believe it is. Because of His teachings, we know that the purpose of our lives is to serve others in the name of Mithras."

[nggr]

Osiris-Dionysus

Egyptian/Greek godman (combined merely for the similarities of the 3)
*Osiris-dionysus is god made flesh, the savior 'son of god'
*his father is god and his mother is a mortal virgin
*he is born in a cave or humble cowshed on December 25 before 3 shepherds
*he offers his followers a chance to be born again through the rites of baptism
*he miraculously turns water to win in a marriage ceremony
*he rides triumphantly into town on a donkey while people wave palm leaves to honor him
*he dies at eastertime as a sacrifice for the sins of the world
*after his death he descends to hell, then on the third day he rises from the dead and ascends to heaven in glory
*his followers await his return as the judge during the last days
*his death and resurrection are celebrated by a ritual meal of bread and wine, which symbolizes his body and blood

[nggr]

Horus

Horus and the Father are one
*Horus is the Father seen in the Son
*Horus, light of the world, represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
*Horus was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person
*Horus baptized with water by Anup (Jesus baptized with water by John)
*Horus the Good Shepherd
*Horus as the Lamb (Jesus as the Lamb)
*Horus as the Lion (Jesus as the Lion)
*Horus identified with the Tat Cross (Jesus with the cross)
*The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son, Ra the Holy Spirit
*Horus the avenger (Jesus who brings the sword)
*Horus the afflicted one
*Horus as life eternal
*Twelve followers of Hours as Har-Khutti (Jesus' 12 disciples)

[jimfinster]

So for these things, I say one big "THANK YOU" to all of you who continue to deny your Creator, and the God who loves you, Jesus Christ.

You are welcome, rickey.

[nggr]

so because someone knew back then that people would argue against these ridiculouis stories, thats a prophecy?
that is stupid. a prophecy?
someone somewhere sometime will argue against this story, so it is written.
if you take solice that the creators of this myth had the forthought that intelligent people would question it then you really need someone to love you.
be a christian, some people are to stupid to be anything else.
pathetic

[nggr]

so because someone knew back then that people would argue against these ridiculouis stories, thats a prophecy?
that is stupid. a prophecy?
someone somewhere sometime will argue against this story, so it is written.
if you take solice that the creators of this myth had the forthought that intelligent people would question it then you really need someone to love you.
be a christian, some people are to stupid to be anything else.
pathetic

[sy2502]

"This explanation denies the existence of God. Therefore, all people must live with evil and suffering."
All people ALREADY live with evil and suffering. Religion adds insult to injury telling us that god could avoid evil and suffering but chooses not to.

"There is no God to restrain evil."
Does it look to you like god IS restraining evil? Go to Darfur, or to a hospital full of terminally hill children and let me know what god is doing there exactly.

Oh, and I am still waiting for my answers...

[nggr]

Hercules....Who was this guy?

If a person accepts hearsay and accounts from believers as historical evidence for Jesus, then should they not act consistently to other accounts based solely on hearsay and belief?

Take this one example for instance. Examine the evidence for the Hercules of Greek mythology and you will find it parallels the historicity of Jesus to such an amazing degree that for Christian apologists to deny Hercules as a historical person belies and contradicts the very same methodology used for a historical Jesus, making it hypocritical.

Note how Herculean myth resembles Jesus in many areas. Hercules was born from a God (Zeus) and a mortal virgin mother (Alcmene). Similar to Herod who wanted to kill Jesus, Hera wanted to kill Hercules. Like Jesus, Hercules traveled the earth as a mortal helping mankind and performed miraculous deeds. Like Jesus who died and rose to heaven, Hercules died, rose to Mt. Olympus and became a god. Hercules was perhaps the most popular hero in Ancient Greece and Rome. They believed that he actually lived, told stories about him, worshiped him, and dedicated temples to him.

[jimfinster]

Your truth is:

dinosaurs on arks
crazy guys talking to burning bushes
godly televangelists
world floods
parting oceans
walking on water
6,000 year old earth

Fun stuff.