Comments on: San Francisco Moves To Ban Plastic Bags

Supermarkets Have Six Months, Drugstores A Year To Replace Bags

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by griking March 28, 2007 10:43 PM EDT
I say ban plastic AND paper bags at grocery stores and encourage customers to purchase reusable hemp bags. Believe me, people will *** and moan at first but the would eventually get used to it. When you think about how many paper and plastic bags are thrown away nation wise daily it really boggles the mind.
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by fizzal-2009 March 28, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
If they are so woried about the enviroment why don,t they cut the parking lots in half plant trees that produce oxygen and force car pooling. stop widening roads by taking property from taxpayers and eliminateing taxpaying properties.
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by ampsanne March 28, 2007 7:54 PM EDT
I would take paper bags over plastic bags any day. But like some of you have said that would affect our tree population. Perhaps the burlap bag or even the tote bags they make would be of better use. Reusable and washable and fold up for convenience. I find with the plastic bags they try to cram so much into them, and then the bottom tears. Seems some store clerks don't have any common sense. Ever have a clerk put sand paper in a bag with some fine closthing? We have a grocery store where the customer packs their own groceries. They put out the empty boxes for customers. I have several boxes and when I go back to the store to shop, I take them along and their used again.
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by smb221 March 28, 2007 6:58 PM EDT
I think it's a great idea. ecuadoriana, I agree with you on your post. Most of the baggers where I live don't really think about what they're doing and will put virtually everything in a freakin' plastic bag.
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by ecuadoriana March 28, 2007 6:23 PM EDT
"The real issue...if The State can tell us what kinds of grocery bags to use, what's to stop it from interfering in other private aspects of our lives?"
Posted by mbburch at 02:03 PM

The "state" already interferes w/"private aspects of our lives". It tells you not to drive drunk, to obey traffic laws, babies need to be in car seats. It tells you not to murder, rape, abuse your spouse & kids. It suggests you not steal, commit arson, deal in drugs & couterfeiting. You can't build a house or hunt w/out a permit or license! Child porn could be considered a "private aspect", but for some reason it's illegal. Why do you think that is?

Some of these activities could be considered private. But all of these laws/rules/suggestions, as most can agree, are only there to help us keep others safe from our stupidity. Because basically humans are too dumb for their own good (the idiot in the ER w/a coke bottle stuck up his butt, the guy who cuts his own hand off w/a chain saw, the woman who blow drys her hair in the bathtub, hot cups of coffee between legs...)

Why do people get so bent out of shape hearing a suggestion on how to protect the life of the planet from our stupidity? Why is it a bad idea to create laws that protect the earth? Isn't that where your children play? Do you like to see plastic bags & garbage floating in the waterways, injuring & killing wildlife? You like garbage? You like sleeping in your own sh*!? Ewww.
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by nlm2383 March 28, 2007 6:06 PM EDT
A lot of environmentalism is feel good mythology, but that's okay because people really just want to be fat, dumb, and happy.

Posted by random_radar at 11:22 AM : Mar 28, 2007


Next time I see a fat person using canvas bags I'm going to tell them they shouldn't bother. They're just fat, dumb and happy and should just use 5 or 6 plastic bags...Just because of this ignorant comment.
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by nlm2383 March 28, 2007 5:55 PM EDT
vancouverboo, I understand what your saying about the carts. I lived in Florida and there was a department store that had a yellow stripe around their parking lot. You couldn't take the carts past that line, there was something magnetic in the ground and in the cart that prevented it. I live in Tennessee and there is at least one store here that requires you to pay like 50 cents to get a cart, you get your money back when you take it back.
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by rray52 March 28, 2007 5:27 PM EDT
Why not all stores not just the ones with over 2 million in annual sales?

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by mbburch March 28, 2007 5:03 PM EDT
The real issue here: if The State can tell us what kinds of grocery bags to use, what's to stop it from interfering in other private aspects of our lives?

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
--James Madison

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by ecuadoriana March 28, 2007 4:47 PM EDT
FINALLY! Some stores with common sense! I've been using my own cloth & mesh bags for years. One mesh bag I've been using since 1983 (that's a LOT of plastic & paper saved!)

The most idiotic thing I experience, repeatedly, is the baggers & cashiers at stores don't know what to do with my bags when I place them on the conveyor belt in front of my items. Especially here in florida the Publix supermarkets seem to hire the dumbest baggers on the planet & walmart refuses to allow my to use my own bags so I don't shop there- f**k 'em. At the Publix they'll pick the bags up (one of which is a huge canvas bag I purchased at their store which is emblazoned with the Publix logo!) & ask "What do you want me to do with these bags?" (I think: Please kid, don't make me answer that). One time the bagger, someone old enough to know better, actually bundled up all 3 of my bags & PUT THEM INSIDE A PLASTIC BAG & put it in my cart! & then proceeded to put my items in plastic bags! Another time I brought my own insulated bag because I was only buying a carton of ice cream. The cashier started to put the icecream into a plastic bag. I said I wanted it in my own bag. She put the IC into my bag but then started to put that into a plastic bag! I ask them all the time: "Don't you ever think about what you're doing? Why are you acting like a plastic bag dispensing robot? THINK!" I have to train them every time I shop. I've even spoken to the managers & they just nod & smile. (cont. below)
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