Comments on: Global Warming To "Continue For Centuries"

Report From Top Scientists Urges Countries To Take Action, Calls Global Warming "Unequivocal"

[huskerarmy]

"But why? Why do we say the Earth is flat, when the vast majority says otherwise? Because we know the truth."

[huskerarmy]

"To Lars008: Thank you, sir! Finally, a voice of logic, reason, and [science] in a sea of left wing CBS, Captain Planet watching socialists."

In 2004, the universally respected journal Science studied 928 randomly selected scientific papers containing the words global climate change. Not one disagreed with the view that global warming is being caused to a significant degree by burning fossil fuels. As Jim Baker, who was head of one of the leading scientific organizations in the U.S., explains, "There is a better scientific consensus on this issue than any other, with the possible exception of Newton's Law of Dynamics."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/301355_gwdeniers.html

[huskerarmy]

For 200 years we've been conquering Nature. Now we're beating it to death. ~Tom McMillan

The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition. ~Carl Sagan

Nature always strikes back.
~Rene Dubos

Because we don't think about future generations, they will never forget us. ~Henrik Tikkanen

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
-Albert Einstein

[bigwhtpony]

To Lars008: Thank you, sir! Finally, a voice of logic, reason, and science in a sea of left wing CBS, Captain Planet watching socialists.

[lars008-2009]

"*Sun's fickle heart may leave us cold"
There's a dimmer switch inside the sun that causes its brightness to rise and fall on timescales of around 100,000 years - exactly the same period as between ice ages on Earth. So says a physicist who has created a computer model of our star's core.
http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/mg19325884.500

[lars008-2009]

Harper's letter dismisses Kyoto as 'socialist scheme'
Prime Minister Stephen Harper once called the Kyoto accord a "socialist scheme" designed to suck money out of rich countries, according to a letter leaked Tuesday by the Liberals.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/30/harper-kyoto.html

[lars008-2009]

Real Climat meet Real Science!

Unstoppable Global Warming documents the reality of a moderate, natural, 1500-year climate cycle on the earth. The Chilling Stars explains the why and how.

The Chilling Stars: A New Theory of Climate Change by Henrik Svensmark, Nigel Calder
The Chilling Stars relates how Svensmark%u2019s team mimicked the chemistry of earth%u2019s atmosphere, by putting realistic mixtures of atmospheric gases into a large reaction chamber, with ultraviolet light as a stand-in for the sun. When they turned on the UV, microscopic droplets%u2014cloud seeds%u2014started floating through the chamber.

%u201CWe were amazed by the speed and efficiency with which the electrons [generated by cosmic rays] do their work of creating the building blocks for the cloud condensation nuclei,%u201D says Svensmark.

The Chilling Stars documents how cosmic rays amplify small changes in the sun%u2019s irradiance fourfold, creating 1-2 degree C cycles in earth%u2019s temperatures: Cosmic rays continually slam into the earth%u2019s atmosphere from outer space, creating ion clusters that become seeds for small droplets of water and sulfuric acid. The droplets then form the low, wet clouds that reflect solar energy back into space. When the sun is more active, it shields the earth from some of the rays, clouds wane, and the planet warms.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chilling-Stars-Theory-Climate-Change/dp/1840468157

[huskerarmy]

"Since gore is being creditied for bringing this problem to the forefront...shame he didn't do it sooner. After all, he was in a situation all during the 90's and kept his mouth shut. His administration didn't sign the Kyoto Accord and apparently he did nothing. It's just a shame."

It's hard to listen when you're constantly regurgitating FOX/ Limbaugh talking points blather. Fact is that Gore has been on this message since even before he was Vice President. And, he did in fact sign the Kyoto Accords. You won't hear about that on FOX but, you would if you listened to any other reputable news source. Oh I forget... you righties think FOX and Limbough are all there is.

[lars008-2009]

Real Climate meet Real Science!

Unstoppable Global Warming documents the reality of a moderate, natural, 1500-year climate cycle on the earth. The Chilling Stars explains the why and how.

Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years by Dennis T. Avery, S. Fred Singer
Singer and Avery note that most of the earth%u2019s recent warming occurred before 1940, and thus before much human-emitted CO2. Moreover, physical evidence shows 600 moderate warmings in the earth%u2019s last million years. The evidence ranges from ancient Nile flood records, Chinese court documents and Roman wine grapes to modern spectral analysis of polar ice cores, deep seabed sediments, and layered cave stalagmites.

Unstoppable Global Warming shows the earth%u2019s temperatures following variations in solar intensity through centuries of sunspot records, and finds cycles of sun-linked isotopes in ice and tree rings. The book cites the work of Svensmark, who says cosmic rays vary the earth%u2019s temperatures by creating more or fewer of the low, wet clouds that cool the earth. It notes that global climate models can%u2019t accurately register cloud effects.
http://www.amazon.com/Unstoppable-Global-Warming-Every-Years/dp/0742551172

[kreuz4]

"All of this junk about global warming is very hard to believe. This year there have been record snowstorms all over the Great Plains."

And it's 45 degrees in Anchorage, Alaska today...
http://www.adn.com/news/weather/

That's the thing, global warming means a rise in average global temperature- some places will get oclder, some places get warmer. The big problem is not your temperature getting a degree or two warmer, it's global climate patterns shifting, turning modern deserts into paradise and turning today's agrarian lands into dust bowls, not to mention putting low lying areas under water.

[huskerarmy]

"Can we get the scientists to quit playing the blame game and get down to the real science of surviving this "runaway train?"

I think you've spun this one out of control. Scientists are reporting the science. It's the fossil fuel industry and their shills who are blaming the scientists (messenger).

[frankly6]

lars008

You could do us all a favor and reduce the population by one idiot. Look in the mirror he's the one with the dum look staring back.

[rafterman1]

"Since gore is being creditied for bringing this problem to the forefront...shame he didn't do it sooner. After all, he was in a situation all during the 90's and kept his mouth shut. His administration didn't sign the Kyoto Accord and apparently he did nothing. It's just a shame."

Not correct. Al Gore himself signed the Kyoto accord on November 12, 1998. But Congress would not approve it, which is required by the Constitution.

[huskerarmy]

"I'm not an environmentalist, never read a book or watched a movie devoted to the subject of climate change...My opinions are based on common sense and logic."

"Common sense" and "logic" sometimes take a different slant once knowledge and empirical evidence are applied.

[lars008-2009]

ok, since it is humans fault, then how much do we need to reduce the global population?

What should we do with china, india and muslims that each have 1.3 billion and growing populations?

[olgreyghost]

Okay, do we stock up on potable water and distilling equipment (to make potable water) for the impending droughts or do we stock up on firewood (and books) for the inevitable Ice Age whose arrival will be hastened by "Global Warming?" Can we get the scientists to quit playing the blame game and get down to the real science of surviving this "runaway train?" I will of course continue to stock up on supplies to survive the next holocaust as I can guarantee there are two or more those on the eastern horizon...

[perception5]

Well we need to do as much as we can to "reduce" the effects of global warming..........but need need to do it in a way that doesn't hurt poor people "greatly"........ because the "fixes" will mean higher "prices" for certain goods and services..... like utilities

[tuckerndfw]

306,

I'm not an environmentalist, never read a book or watched a movie devoted to the subject of climate change, and do not care if the earth explodes. It is irrelevant what the climate does.

Crichton is a fiction novelist (and medical doctor, if I recall correctly).

My opinions are based on common sense and logic. Assuming there was an ice age, which I do, then it only makes logical sense there will be a "hot age" or period of defrosting.

Nature is cyclical and it would be illogical if an ice age did not have a corresponding "hot age."

The reason I suggested people leave regions that are currently arid has nothing to do with flooding. It has to do with the fact there will be no WATER.

Human/animal life depends on water more than any other single substance except "air."

And without water, humans are going to die off on a massive, incomprehensible scale. It will take a few hundred years, but by 2200 or 2300, there won't be enough humans on the earth to build an automobile even if they knew how.

The good news is that in a few million years, humans will once again begin to flourish and build useless junk (cars, boats, planes, etc.) to amuse themselves (ourselves).

The cycle continues...

[thuber5]

All of this junk about global warming is very hard to believe. This year there have been record snowstorms all over the Great Plains.

[jairod]

There was this farmer who had never left the farm until for his eightieth birthday when he went into the big city and visited the zoo. He stood in front of the giraffe cage staring at the tall animal for about two hours before he left. With his head down and shaking in disbelief, he said: There aint no such animal.