Ask them what brand of auto they drive? Most of these engineer types drive foreign cars but they want us to bail them out. This was a poorly reported story that had a lot of boo hoo but little in the ways to increase industry and rehire these foreign driving auto engineers!
We are abandoning our exploration of space to fund two needless invasions of Iraq and Iran. For those of you that say it should be commercial, what happens when a commercial craft finds a cure for cancer on a distant planet. Do you think they would let you have it for cheap, or should it be property of mankind? Fire everyone in office good or bad till it fixes itself.
Far fetched, but why couldn't your argument be applied now? All pharmaceutical companies are commercial entities and many find exotic compounds for use in medicine in far off rain forests that belong to other countries. Are they the property of mankind?
We are not hearing 1 word in this from the Republican flag waivers who just spent 4 trillion in Iraq the very same Iraq that had no weapons of mass destruction? What did we get for that 4 trillion? 4 trillion down the drain. Another Vietnam. Bush repeated everything we did in the 60's got us into a needless wars,killed the space program. He never funded Constellation. Space exploration and science are social programs and I love Nasa. Backward looking republicans arent going to take us anywhere folks.
At least Obama has the space program moving forward rather then just a PR stunt like Bush.
Cant wait to hear the Social Security crowd start screaming once they learn the republicans are killing it off. Better think twice before pulling the republican lever. Bush Jr was the absolute worst vote I ever casted. He fooled me once. Republicans are for the rich elites and thats about it.
You all realize that the U.S. is effectively still funding a low earth space program. Except it is in Russia. The Ruskies would not be flying if we were not paying to ride in their POS space balls. Essentially, jobs have been outsourced.
what a freaking joke NASA is, there is no reason the shuttle program should be canned. In fact we should a new fleet under construction and modernized with now materials etc. Stupid bonehead bureaucrats.
It's very disappointing that the next generation of manned launch vehicles isn't ready to take over immediately. But you must remember that after Apollo, the USA pulled the same mistake.
There was a six year gap between the last Saturn 1B launch and the first launch of the Shuttle in which the USA had no manned capability. It's not just "Obama's fault" since the shuttle's supposed replacement, the CEV wouldn't have been ready by now anyways.
Yes, it's politics and unclear goals that keep vehicles from being developed. But it's hardly due to Republicans OR Democrats.
Remember that it was Nixon who canceled the last three Apollo missions and the Mars "NERVA" program (because the "important" Vietnam war had bankrupted America).
Little known fact about the shuttle program -- usually when it landed in North Florida, it would always land at the same KFC. Great work, everyone. Next bucket's on me.
I am glad the shuttle is finally retired. It was always too expensive to operate and the high costs compromised many other missions that could have added to our breadth of knowledge. We put all our eggs in one basket with the shuttle, which is not scalable per mission. Even the military backed out of it for routine missions to put small payloads in orbit. We should have stuck with the Saturn program, which was scalable and moon capable. We should have expanded upon Skylab, instead of ISS, the most costly object ever constructed. We would have been way ahead in space flight if we simply evolved our earlier programs at a less costly rate and got a return on the initial development costs rather than switch to the overly complex shuttle with it's limited capabilities.
Also I don't understand the negative comments about losing our space capabilities. No astronaut flew for 6 years after Skylab, while the shuttle was in development. No one said the space program was dead during that time, although a few said the shuttle would kill it.
Saturn V was a fantastic launch vehicle. It's a shame that the last three ended up discarded like so much scrap. There was even plans to add two "strap on" boosters to increase the payload to a point where a moon base/manned Mars mission was possible.
Technology just wasn't far enough along to make the idea of a reusable vehicle like the shuttle practical. Plus, Nasa didn't have the amount of money it requested to design it, leading to a compromised design with solid rocket boosters and a non-reusable fuel tank that made it no lower in cost than disposable rockets.
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For those of you that say it should be commercial, what happens when a commercial craft finds a cure for cancer on a distant planet. Do you think they would let you have it for cheap, or should it be property of mankind? Fire everyone in office good or bad till it fixes itself.
At least Obama has the space program moving forward rather then just a PR stunt like Bush.
Cant wait to hear the Social Security crowd start screaming once they learn the republicans are killing it off. Better think twice before pulling the republican lever. Bush Jr was the absolute worst vote I ever casted. He fooled me once. Republicans are for the rich elites and thats about it.
Three times as big. Able to lift heavy loads to high earth orbit.
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Other than it being an overpriced, over-complex, and dangerous flop?
There was a six year gap between the last Saturn 1B launch and the first launch of the Shuttle in which the USA had no manned capability. It's not just "Obama's fault" since the shuttle's supposed replacement, the CEV wouldn't have been ready by now anyways.
Yes, it's politics and unclear goals that keep vehicles from being developed. But it's hardly due to Republicans OR Democrats.
Remember that it was Nixon who canceled the last three Apollo missions and the Mars "NERVA" program (because the "important" Vietnam war had bankrupted America).
History all over again.
daffy64, we'll just rely on Canada's robust space program, eh ?
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Actually, the Remote Manipulator System (Canadarm) was one of the only parts of the shuttle that operated flawlessly!
Oh well. If only we had your GDP, think what we could do, haha.
Also I don't understand the negative comments about losing our space capabilities. No astronaut flew for 6 years after Skylab, while the shuttle was in development. No one said the space program was dead during that time, although a few said the shuttle would kill it.
Technology just wasn't far enough along to make the idea of a reusable vehicle like the shuttle practical. Plus, Nasa didn't have the amount of money it requested to design it, leading to a compromised design with solid rocket boosters and a non-reusable fuel tank that made it no lower in cost than disposable rockets.
Oh well.