PTSD is a serious problem facing vets and their families, and if this can help, wonderful. I hope people are not too closed minded to be willing to support a therapy to help our vets if science can proove it to be helpful. Let the research continue, our vets deserve all the help they can get.
Um. Yeah. Regarding the use of a placebo in the trial: Wouldn't people realize that they weren't taking Ecstasy? It's not like Prozac where the effects are subtle and take days to show up. Ecstasy makes you feel all friendly and weird, and placebos don't.
[Um. Yeah. Regarding the use of a placebo in the trial: Wouldn't people realize that they weren't taking Ecstasy? ... Ecstasy makes you feel all friendly and weird, and placebos don't. ]
well ... the placebo will do exactly the same thing as the real drug when it behaves like a placebo. in fact ... they've now found that drugs like prozac ... and others that have been around for a while ... actually exhibit a much higher placebo effect 20 years later ... than what was measured when the drug was first studied (for it's initial approval).
the understanding of placebo effect is still in it's infancy.
Certainly there's been lots of evidence of the medical benefits of marijuana. And it's been getting the consideration it deserves. Why not this drug as well? I think some day the psychedelics will finally get the respect they deserve.
by kenhamlett July 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT This is the natural next step in psychiatry. They have long been nothing more than licensed drug peddlers more intent on enslaving the person with drugs and grabbing their cash than they care about actually curing a person. The psychotherapy is a meaningless exercise better viewed as a walletectomy so you are no better off with this "therapy" than you are visiting the drug dealer down on the corner.
Nothing changes except for when it gets worse.
------------ You clearly have never experienced PTSD. I have. I also know quite a bit about psychiatry and therapy. You clearly don't. You have no right to disparage a whole profession. I know what has helped me, and what hasn't. You don't. Don't pretend you know what you are talking about. Try walking in my shoes just a little bit. Ask questions. Learn about the disorder.
This should be tyhe LAST thing they need. Many are hooked already from the stresses of battle. Never seen a shrink help anyone! Place of worship and AA does good. Mental Health community is politically correct but a waste of time except for the insane that needs a particular drug known to help.
I believe that anything they can find to help with PTSD is welcome. I've never been to war but I have lost a child and that is one of the hardest things to cope with day today. So if they think this might help then im all for it. Nothing seems to help and it has been over 2 years now
This is the natural next step in psychiatry. They have long been nothing more than licensed drug peddlers more intent on enslaving the person with drugs and grabbing their cash than they care about actually curing a person. The psychotherapy is a meaningless exercise better viewed as a walletectomy so you are no better off with this "therapy" than you are visiting the drug dealer down on the corner.
I'll say what I did to the poster above. You clearly have never experienced PTSD. I have. I also know quite a bit about psychiatry and therapy. You clearly don't. You have no right to disparage a whole profession. I know what has helped me, and what hasn't. You don't. Don't pretend you know what you are talking about. Try walking in my shoes just a little bit. Ask questions. Learn about the disorder.
[The psychotherapy is a meaningless exercise better viewed as a walletectomy so you are no better off with this "therapy" than you are visiting the drug dealer down on the corner.]
your view can be best characterized by the old phrase 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. nothing has the same effect for everyone ... but to say that these things don't help anyone is presumptuous.
[Ok, so you convert them from mental problems to drug dependency???? ]
your whole brain is one big chemical and electrical system. mind manifests from the brain and central nervous system. these conditions are effectively 'chemical/electrical' imbalances of that system. these drugs target those imbalances. in some cases the drugs are not required indefinitely to correct a condition.
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well ... the placebo will do exactly the same thing as the real drug when it behaves like a placebo. in fact ... they've now found that drugs like prozac ... and others that have been around for a while ... actually exhibit a much higher placebo effect 20 years later ... than what was measured when the drug was first studied (for it's initial approval).
the understanding of placebo effect is still in it's infancy.
Why not this drug as well? I think some day the psychedelics will finally get the respect they deserve.
so do oncologists (cancer) ... cardiologists (heart) ... and endocrinologists (diabetes).
This is the natural next step in psychiatry. They have long been nothing more than licensed drug peddlers more intent on enslaving the person with drugs and grabbing their cash than they care about actually curing a person.
The psychotherapy is a meaningless exercise better viewed as a walletectomy so you are no better off with this "therapy" than you are visiting the drug dealer down on the corner.
Nothing changes except for when it gets worse.
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You clearly have never experienced PTSD. I have. I also know quite a bit about psychiatry and therapy. You clearly don't. You have no right to disparage a whole profession. I know what has helped me, and what hasn't. You don't. Don't pretend you know what you are talking about. Try walking in my shoes just a little bit. Ask questions. Learn about the disorder.
so who exactly defines the threshold that clearly describes what 'insanse' is?
isn't it really just shades of grey ... or are you a 'black/white' type of guy?
The psychotherapy is a meaningless exercise better viewed as a walletectomy so you are no better off with this "therapy" than you are visiting the drug dealer down on the corner.
Nothing changes except for when it gets worse.
your view can be best characterized by the old phrase 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. nothing has the same effect for everyone ... but to say that these things don't help anyone is presumptuous.
your whole brain is one big chemical and electrical system. mind manifests from the brain and central nervous system. these conditions are effectively 'chemical/electrical' imbalances of that system. these drugs target those imbalances. in some cases the drugs are not required indefinitely to correct a condition.