Comments on: Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care

Citing Budget Shortfalls, Only State With Universal Coverage Eliminates Funding After 7 Months

[cheteunice]

erasmus81, Thank you for your pleasant, well informed answer! I appreciate it greatly/

[downsteamjim]

Why wasn''t this page one?

[susanhelit]

Our "great" country is the only major nation that doesn''t cover it''s own citizens routine health care. Worse yet - we can''t even cover just our own children! This is shameful.

[Razzl]

Hawaii has one of the most shamefully stingy social services networks of any American state. The people of the state should be ashamed of this and resolve to do better by people in need. There is a point at which economics is trumped by morality, and the manner in which people in need in Hawaii are left without help is simply immoral...

[jsaarikko]

The answers to all your questions and concerns are found at;
http://www.universalhealthcareinfousa.com/

[presjfk]

"I remember when Medicare started within 90 days the Hospitals were over whelmed with Medicare Patients. It has been proven that when anything is free there is never enough of it. Posted by d7767w"

Your comments suggest that people NOT needing health care rushed to the hospitals when Medicare became available. Well idiot, if your account is accurate, they were there becuase they were sick and suffering and not because the care was free. You think Medicare pays for face lifts and boob jobs?

Our country excludes the most vulnerable of its citizens from routine health care because people without money are not profitable. The high cost of care and insurance also has the effect of weeding out the bulk of 40 million uninsured people, that is until they get so sick they wind up in an emergency room at taxpayers expense - an expense much higher once illness becomes more severe. This system also adds the benefit of freeing up the system for those of us with insurance so we don''t need to wait very long to see a specialist. Is that fair, kicking 40 million people to the curb so those with money don''t have to wait?

You may take pride in such a system but I do not. It is shameful.

[sepa2]

Posted by erasmus81,
What we have in US is health bussiness not care. Since the sick does not have a choice of dropping treatment this bussiness is not subjected to free market competition and everyone in this bussiness have a free hand in fixing prices and salaries. To make things worse we have a government run system for seniors and they make merry milking this system. The frauds alone run in to hundreds of million. This is why despite spending the most money in the world not everyone is covered.Everyone love this system because everyone think s/he get better care than their neighbor

[presjfk]

"Why don''''t you do a little research before making such stupid statements. The European countries that have so called Universal Health Care only add $4.25 avg. tax to each gallon of gas and that doesn''t cover the cost and the care is not so great. Posted by d7767"

You should do some homework. The US is ranked 37th in the world behind Costa Rica for the quality of our health care, yet clearly spends more, much more than any other country and has 40 million uninsured. If that weren''t bad enough, the laws in this country allow people to lose everything they own when they are faced with medical bills they cannot afford-with or without insurance.

Europe boasts 7 out of the top 10 countries for the best healthcare in the world. France is #1. You mention Europe''s so-called universal healthcare. You question that it exists? Well it does.

The issue is that our system is full of gross mismanagement and greed? Sound familiar? Well it should because its the same problem on Wall Street right now.

As for your comment about $4.25 of tax per gallon in Europe. Using your number, and the average driving per car of 12,000 miles per year, with average fuel economy of 22 miles per gallon, equals 545 gallons of gas/year - and if the tax is $4.25 gal, the extra cost would amount to $2316 in extra taxes per year per car (on average). Using your logic, this is a bargain compared to what we are spending on health insurance.

Europe does health care better and smarter than the USA.

[erasmus81]

"I assume you still have emergency rooms and urgent care centers for immediate treatments for emergencies, right?"

Posted by CANYOUTELLME at 02:58 PM : Oct 17, 2008

The vast majority have their own family doctors. If there is an emergency, we can go to the hospital emergency room, or a clinic. You don''t need an appointment to go to a clinic.

[erasmus81]

d7767w

"Why don''''t you do a little research before making such stupid statements."

I am talking about Canada. I live in Canada. I don''t have to do any research.

"It has been proven that when anything is free there is never enough of it."

The one that should be doing research is YOU. And I most certainly wouldn''t be listening to half the cr*p you find on the internet.

Our health care is NOT FREE. Single people pay around $54 a month. Married couples pay around $90 a month, and families pay around $100+ a month. What do you pay? I can guarantee that anyone that has insurance down there is paying waaaaaay more than that. In fact the prices are so high that many can''t afford it and are dying from lack of health care. There isn''t anyone dying here from lack of health care. And we all get the BEST care. I am going to get the same care as the rich b*tch next door. And the rich b*tch next door doesn''t have to pay anymore than I do.

I can go to the doctor whenever I want and however often I want.

I don''t have to deal with any insurance company. I don''t have to worry that an insurance company is going to back out of paying at the last minute. I don''t have to worry about being scammed by the drug companies either.