Comments on: Autism-Vaccine Link Gets Day In Court

Families Take On Mainstream Medicine, Claim Vaccines Caused Neurological Disorders

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by purple426 May 12, 2008 11:59 PM EDT
Let''s see -- the FDA limits mercury consumption in someone''s diet. It''s also disallowed in mascara (and that''s on your eyes, not in ingested) or in pet vaccinations. We''re told not to play with the mercury in a broken thermometer. Yet, it''s okay to inject enough into a child between birth and three years that is something like 500 times the "safety" limit of a large-sized adult. Hmmm. Is that contradiction lost on those who refuse to consider mercury contributes to autism or do they really just blindly take whatever the medical establishment and government says is "right?" Autism isn''t covered by insurance though it''s a neurological disorder. If people who smoke can actually win lawsuits against cigarette manufacturers, despite willfully choosing to smoke, what''s wrong with families of autistic children trying to get the cause of their child''s autism to pay for the very costly treatment? Give us a break.
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by meekat99 May 12, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
I AM THE MOTHER OF A CHILD WITH AUTISM. HE WILL BE TURNING SIX IN JUNE. HE WAS DIAGNOSED MAY OF 2007. HE JUST GOT ACCEPTED INTO JUDENVINE A CENTER THAT WORKS WITH KIDS WITH AUTISM TO HELP THEM GET SOME SORT OF BALANCE AND CONTROL. TO HEAR THAT VACCINES ARE A PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THIS IT ANGERS ME. MY SON DIDN''T START TALKING UNTIL HE WAS A LITTLE OVER FOUR. I WONDERED WHY HE COULD NOT SPEAK AS WELL AS HIS YOUNGER SISTER OR WHY HE ACTED ANTI-SOCIAL. WHEN HE WAS DIAGNOSED I CRIED. I''M A YOUNG, SINGLE MOTHER. WHAT DO I DO WITH A CHILD THAT HAS AUTISM? TO KNOW THAT SOMETHING YOU CANNOT PREVENT FROM HAPPENING MAY BE THE CAUSE OF IT REALLY UPSETS ME. THEY HAVE TO BE CURRENT WITH THEIR SHOTS TO EVEN ATTEND SCHOOL. IT''S A NO WIN SITUATION. IT''S LIKE YOU DON''T HAVE A SAY SO ON RATHER THEY SHOULD HAVE THIS VACCINE OR NOT. YOU WANT THE BEST FOR YOUR KIDS AND TRY TO PREVENT AND TREAT ANY ILLNESS THEY MIGHT HAVE. YOU TRY TO MAKE SURE YOUR DOING EVERYTHING TO HAVE A HEALTHY PREGNANCY. AS A MOTHER YOU LOVE THAT CHILD UNCONDITIONALLY AND TO WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND YOUR CHILD IS THERE PHYSICALLY AND NOT MENTALLY THAT IS THE WORST FEELING EVER. SO SHOULD WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUE IF POSSIBLE? YES! IN REALITY IT''S NOT UP TO THE PARENTS IF YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO BE VACCINATED OR NOT. AS A PARENT YOU DON''T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE IT''S REQUIRED THAT THEY HAVE ALL OF THEIR VACCINATIONS.
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by leigh639 May 12, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
I am the mother of a vaccine injured child. This was from the 80''s DPT and he is now 27 years old. No, he was not compensated, didnt know anything about compensation for vaccine injury until 20 years later. Could it have helped him? You tell me. He is 27 developmentally he is like a 3 MONTH old. He as cerebral palsy, Epilepsy, cortical blindness, major mental retardation, the list goes on.Would it help him now. NO. He would still be severely Vaccine Injured However; Yes, it would have helped me provide for him but, then again No, because I would not have grown to be the strong person that I had to learn to be. Dont judge those parents that are seeking justice, For Vaccine Injury. You will not have to deal with the curves that life is going to throw them and will NEVER know the heart ache and blessing of having a disabled child. So dont judge. 2. I think that there should be more extensive testing of drugs, before they are made mandatory. I am not anti-immunization, but I am cautious. What happend to my son happened to 1 in 350,000, so testing may not have have prevented his resulting condition from vaccine injury, but it would prevent some. And that means a lot if it includes you.
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by pamela040465 May 12, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
My son was diagnosed at 3 years and 3 month with autism...after his 15 month MMR booster, he started regressing and by the time he was 18 months old he had completely stopped talking and he would not have eye contact, my beautiful little boy was gone...I have always known his 15 month old MMR booster caused Steven''s autism.
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by sunnysae May 12, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
It is not the mercury in the vaccines that concern me but what is underlying health condidtions of our child. My son does not have Autism, we just tested him to make sure but he was born with a suppressed immune system from the moment we brought him home. Once he got his first rounds of vaccine at 2 mths he had seizures, then at 4 months again, he had seizures. The source that caused it was the Pertussis vaccine which once we stopped it he didn''t have it at his 6 mths. THen at his chicken pox vaccination, he broke out in complete chicken pox from head to toe. If I would of known then what I would of known now, I would of delayed the vaccination schedule or given the vaccines one at a time to see what his reactions were. Children with autism also have suppressed immune system as well, therefore giving them vaccines can cause the autism to show it''s signs. Testing our children to see if their immune system is suppressed from birth would be ideal. Back when we were young, we didn''t get as much vaccines as we do now nor all at once or combined like we do now.
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by bdevine8 May 12, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
Mercury laden vaccines bought from American companies are outlawed in Europe.
The American companies manufacture the vaccines without mercury for sale there.
Shouldn''t the pharmaceutical companies take full precautions with American children? My daughter knows an employee of Merck''s. She told her that it is strictly a money saving way to manufacture the vaccines. Profiteering on comromised American childrens'' lives !! Does the Ameican public expect anything else but this kind of thing from the pharmaceutical companies at this point and after everything else ??

Let Mr. Offitt be injectd with mercury himself.

And there are lobbyists from the pharmsceutical companies tryng to get Congress to curtail the Health Food Industry. This is absolutely terrifying, unconstitutional, and evil. Where are the presidential candidates on this serious issue? Are they afraid of the pharmaceutical companies too ??
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by mjpenterprises May 12, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
Thimerosal has been removed in recent years from standard childhood vaccines, except flu vaccines......
What a pile of !@#$%^ read the leaflets in the vaccines boxes when you open them and see for yourselves
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by mjpenterprises May 12, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
MERCURY IS HARFUL TO ALL THAT TAKE IT INTERNALLY ITS A HEAVY METAL AND IS CUMULATIVE AND VERY WELL DOCUMENTED THRU THE YEARS SHE SHOULD SAY TRUTHFULLY THAT SOME MINORITY IS NOT AS AFFECTED AS OTHERS AND HER INSTITUTE
SHOULD REVOKE HER MEMBERSHIP ITS ALL DOLLARDS DRIVEN BS
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by iinterceptor May 12, 2008 9:56 PM EDT
Autism-Vaccine, My son was effected by these vaccine @ the age of two. I knew it then & know it now they are unsafe for some children. I never expect the goverment to admit to this problem, however my hope is people speaking out will change this policy.
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by Syndicate May 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
This reminds me a lot of parvo. It is a Dog disease. Most muts can catch it and beat with no long term damage. Most pure breeds have a very hard time with it. If they do manage to survive they are often changed. In these cases it seems to be the high fever that is causing the brain damage in the dogs. The pure breeds seem to have weaker immune systems because of the inbreeding. This in turn causes hotter longer fevers thus more brain damage. I hope they figure it out.
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by rf35 May 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
"Yes indeed, it''s about the money. If autism is exacerbated by vaccines, families need to be compensated..."

Posted by LIVSPARENTS

That''s an awful big "IF" when you''re asking taxpayers to hand you money.
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by rational_1 May 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
Lets say I go to Disneyland and a year later get lung cancer. Can you prove that Mickey didnt cause it?

Of course you can. You can look at the number of times Mickey had contact with people who didnt develop lung cancer, other environmental links to said cancer, break down what aspect of Micky is the likely carcinogen (radio-active gloves? second-hand smoke? tar and nicotine hugs?) etc etc
Posted by teeus at 04:20 PM : May 12, 2008

Okay, so if that argument is persuasive to you then so should all the published epidemiological studies (cited by the CDC and NAS in their written opinions) showing no statistical link between MMR vaccine and autism. In other words, there are these other factors (like genetics) and no demonstrated causal connection between vaccination and autism.
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by livsparents May 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
The problem is, it IS all about the money. The Smiths could care less whether the Jonses'''' kids developed autism or not, so long as the Smiths get their money. It would be nice if prevention was the real reason, but it isn''''t. It''''s about free money. Doesn''t matter what the real cause is. Just pay us...we''re entitled.

Yes, all us autism families are out there just trying to bilk the nation out of money so we can continue to drive our BMW and take vacations in Tahiti. Last year, my two daughters therapy bill came to OVER $30,000...that''s AFTER the therapy our school provides and AFTER the amount insurance covers.

Yes indeed, it''s about the money. If autism is exacerbated by vaccines, families need to be compensated, not to keep up with the Jones, but to help their kids to actually have a life...
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by rational_1 May 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
If you are basing your argument/opinion on a Wikipedia post, then you must be a community college professor!
Posted by lucasnico at 04:24 PM : May 12, 2008

Nope, large national research university. And I don''t base my opinions on Wikipedia - I use it as a quick starting point to the literature in an area I''m not familiar with. If you''d actually gone to that article you''d have seen the many papers in the primary literature that directly address the MM/vaccine link. I''ve read a couple this afternoon - maybe you should too. But then again it would have taken away from all the time you spent coming up with that witticism.
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by magoo2u1 May 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
No, No ,No. There were no records of autism before mankind began keeping records. It''s recording information that causes Autism. Ban record keeping.
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by buttonjockey May 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
Don''t be quick to dismiss the effects of thimerosal. I was in the medical field for 15 years and learned a few things that you should know:

1. Most doctors do not do their homework. They learn about new drugs and what they do from drug sales reps and rarely follow up. They seldom read about independent studies on things like the thimerosal-autism link.

2. Many things should be studied but aren''t because the money isn''t there. The medical industry is NOT altruistic.

Here''s how thimerosal can lead to autism: A new baby has, in its digestive tract, a developing protein whose job will eventually be to latch onto and dispose of various contaminants such as heavy metals. Prior to about 1 year old, this protein is immature and can be killed off by mercury, rendering this line of defense completely and permanently useless as a defense against environmental contaminants. HOWEVER, this only occurs in a minority of cases. Vaccinating after 1 year old has yielded lower incidences of autism and ADHD.

One more thing:

3. There is often a heavy bias favoring the pharmaceutical industries. Many trusted research organizations have board members/staff who are members of the pharmaceutical industry or political appointees. That ruins the scientific process.

Example: L-Tryptophan, a very safe and effective sleep aid. The FDA banned all L-Tryptophan after an isolated incident but with pressure from American sleep aid manufacturers, refused to lift the ban. Google fda ban tryptophan
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by rf35 May 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
Hey, I figured it out...it''s not the vaccines, it''s the genetically modified food. There were fewer cases of autism before GM foods were invented. The cases of autism have risen with the percentage of GM food in our diets. Problem solved. Sue Monsanto.
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by rf35 May 12, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
...wouldn''t you want the professionals to do whatever it took to find out the cause and prevent it from happening anymore? I hope this court procedding gets the attention it deserves. Not for the money, but for the benifit if the prevention on autism.

Posted by looking4help

The problem is, it IS all about the money. The Smiths could care less whether the Jonses'' kids developed autism or not, so long as the Smiths get their money. It would be nice if prevention was the real reason, but it isn''t. It''s about free money. Doesn''t matter what the real cause is. Just pay us...we''re entitled.
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by looking4help-2009 May 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
alexma50085,
I don''t know where you saw the numbers as being one in every 500 children has autism...1800''s maybe. it''s one in every 100. I understand that there are worse things then autism, but obviously you don''t know anyone that is autistic and how horrible it can be or else you''d be MUCH more compassionate towards the issue.
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by Latrocinor May 12, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
If you are basing your argument/opinion on a Wikipedia post, then you must be a community college professor!

Posted by lucasnico
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Nah, just has to stoop to your level and keep the words short and small.
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