Comments on: Health Care Will Cost $4 Trillion by 2017

Gov't Projects That Medical Expenses For An Aging Population Will Be 20% Of GDP

[antizion]

or you can go out in world and succeed on your own and not rely on government for everything like mcvet and the other libs on here do
Posted by jwind11 at 12:48 PM : Feb 26, 2008

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This moron is a paid shill and is here every day. Now who do you think pays his dependent self to do that? My tax dollars?

[antizion]

Only one member of my family has been murdered and it was by a doctor at Harborview Medical in Seattle.

She was given an overdose of morphine (2 large IV''s) we were told it was to make her more comfortable after they took her off life support.

I realize now she would have recovered from the malpractice that caused her problem but they killed her to limit their liability.

It is profit, monopolies, corruption, price fixing greed and racism that makes our medical system so dangerous and expensive. But then look who controls it. About 70% of doctors are Jews and I have been abused myself by these SOB''s while in the hospital.

Single payer health care NOW! Screw the zionist insurance companies.

[jwind11]

If this is true, just means there needs to be more people who know how to take care of themselves and less liberals relying on the government to take care of them.

[jwind11]

Also, has it occurred to you that all of your childish nazi *** makes you look like an idiot?


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Posted by easeup at 10:33 AM : Feb 26, 2008
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Take off the swastika stupid and READ. The Figures show and show clearly that the number of people without health care went up and went up DRAMATICALLY under that piece of trash YOU call a President. HE made fun of Gore and Democrats who insisted we needed to take action to stop this process. HE like all the Nazi''''s SAID they were going to make in MORE affordable. YOu don''''t believe it, search the debates. The question I have for you Nazi''''s is why do YOU keep buying the same tired old lies and trashing EVERY democrat that proposes a REAL solution, including Hillary? We have the WORST system in the civilized world for a reason... when you fascist took over we had one of the best...it''''s all there in the records. Search out how many american''''s were without medical care in 1980 IF you can keep the swastika off long enough. Seig Heil Bush


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Posted by MCVet at 12:12 PM : Feb 26, 2008

or you can go out in world and succeed on your own and not rely on government for everything like mcvet and the other libs on here do

[drputt45]

I''m not sure my paycheck can stand a $4 trillion deduction for my health care. Guess I''ll have to cut back on Starbucks.

[Syndicate]

Kinda like predicting the tech boom in 1989. Most of these studies never consider the medical tech in the pipe line. For example Tengion''s neo organs or the stem cell treatments that are already curing diabetes in the lab.

[hotpaulie]

How much will it cost per year in Iraq by then?

[magoo2u1]

A spokesman for the Republican party was on talk radio 4 months ago in Charlotte , NC and I''m quoting here " We should shut down medicare ,medicaid and social secutrity immediately. Even my own mother can die if necassary , but hey, people die. Americans have an unrealistic expectation to be treated for their diseases and live longer. They need to get over it. If you can''t afford to seek treatment you don''t deserve it." The little twit was 21yrs old and thinks he will never be old. Clueless.

[standlee5]

The govt. has talked of plans to bail mortgages for people who borrowed above their means but has refused to address the people who have had to declare bankrup;tcty over the past decade due to medical costs most responsible people who had health insurance. That''s how expensive it is. You can go bankrupt even WITH insurance. It''s crazy.

[clifden6]

In terms of "richest nation re: the US, no it is not, when viewed using the HDI from the UN Development Program. The US is 12th on global basis re: the 2007/2008 report.

The Human Development Index (HDI) is the normalized measure of life expectancy, literacy, education, standard of living, and GDP per capita for countries worldwide. 1 %u25B2 (1) Iceland %u25B2 0.968
2 %u25BC (1) Norway %u25B2 0.968
3 %u25AC (0) Australia %u25B2 0.962
4 %u25B2 (2) Canada %u25B2 0.961
5 %u25BC (1) Ireland %u25B2 0.959
6 %u25BC (1) Sweden %u25B2 0.956
7 %u25B2 (2) Switzerland %u25B2 0.955
8 %u25BC (1) Japan %u25B2 0.953
9 %u25B2 (1) Netherlands %u25B2 0.953
10 %u25B2 (6) France %u25B2 0.952
11 %u25AC (0) Finland %u25B2 0.952
12 %u25BC (4) United States %u25B2 0.951

The downward arrow means the US dropped from 2004.

When viewed regionally in the Americas Canada is #1, followed by the US.
1 %u25AC (0) Canada %u25B2 0.961
2 %u25AC (0) United States %u25B2 0.951
3 %u25AC (0) Barbados %u25B2 0.892
4 %u25AC (0) Argentina %u25B2 0.869
5 %u25AC (0) Chile %u25B2 0.867
6 %u25AC (0) Uruguay %u25B2 0.852
7 %u25AC (0) Costa Rica %u25B2 0.846
8 %u25B2 (2) Bahamas %u25B2 0.845
9 %u25BC (1) Cuba %u25B2 0.838
10 %u25B2 (1) Mexico
The above 10 countries are the 10 highest HDI''s, while there are 10 lowest HDI''s. On a global basis Cuba is 51 and Brazil 70, and Venezuala 74.

[missingamerica]

"driven by higher prices and an increased demand for care"?

Wow - those health care boyz are just like the oil boyz - the higher the demand, the more they charge - all in the name of profit.

Someday somebody will write an article that lays out health care costs in a nice little pie chart and shows - among the other overhead - how big a piece of the pie liability insurance companies and lawyers are getting.

[standlee5]

20% of GDP. So what. I''m paying 30% of my income for helathcare costs. That''s not including the local taxes paid for those that don''t pay for thier own. No, we''re not in a healthcare crisis.

[mcvet]

Well how about THESE facts you pathetic Nazi!! Kaiser Family Foundation, hardly a left wing think tank, says we pay out $5,711 per covered person. That same Source says the citizens of our Neighbors to the North pay out $2,998 per covered person. WE have over 44 MILLION of our neighbors who have NO coverage and somewhere in the area of 3.8 MILLION who have substantual coverage. Now maybe instead of telling all of us what those

That should have been 3.8 Million with Sub STATNDARD coverage. Sorry.

[omega39-2009]

Posted by jmagarotz

Wow jmagarotz, you accuse me of wanting to destroy our medical system, working for an unfriendly government, wanting to see people suffer, unabashed hate and then proclaim I don''t want a rational discussion. Nice. I happen to work for a very large multinational and directly work with people from the UK, France, Israel and Canada. All have single payer health insurance and when I ask for their thoughts on our system they pretty much laugh at it. The facts are clear and have been laid out numerous times;
1) the US spends more per capita on health insurance than any other country (almost twice)
2) Our infant mortality rates and life expectancy are relatively poor compared to countries spending half as much
3) we have 43.6 million (as of 2006) uninsured that are using the hospital emergency rooms as primary care physicians, this ultimately cost the taxpayer anyway.
4) The costs of the "for profit" model we employee is subject to outside influences. For instance, the double digit increases in health premiums in the early part of the decade were a reflection of insurance companies trying to recoup their stock market losses after the dot.com bust.
5) employer sponsored health care puts the US at a disadvantage when competing with countries that have single payer health care.

[mcvet]

Since you called me a liar I must ask, Why do you insist on destroying our medical system? Are you secretly working for an unfriendly foreign government or maybe you like to see people suffer, or is it you would rather "hate" instead of enter a rational discussion with ligitimate ideas to fix the problem? Which is it?


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Posted by jmagarotz at 09:37 AM : Feb 26, 2008
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He''s right, you people ALWAYS have an aquaintence or something to divert attention from the WORST and sparky it is the WORST health care system in the Free World. We spend, by far, much more money caring for far less citizens than any nation in the G-7. Have YOU been to a big city ER lately... I doubt seriously you will come out of that experience saying we have the best. Sieg Heil Bush

[mcvet]

You people always seem to have a convenient "acquaintance" that can vouch for the CATO institute and reaffirm the dangers of socialized health care. Of course, the well documented failures in the more costly, private health care system are summarily dismissed.


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Posted by omega39 at 09:18 AM : Feb 26, 2008
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LOL Yes and they NEVER address the LIE we have been told by these same people over and over. EVERY election they tell us they will make Health Care MORE affordable and EVERY time it has turned out to be a LIE. Do they address that fact?

[mcvet]

Posted by jowand at 09:40 AM : Feb 26, 2008
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Now folks this is a NAZI plain and simple. Notice how this bootlicker spends line after line TELLING you what the other side wants and thinks. He doesn''t trust YOU to decide for yourself. What he wants goes all the way back to the third Reich. He wants to make someone who does have a solution out to be evil or out of touch. Of course we are NOT discussing a Woman''s LEGAL right to an Abortion. But that''s his hate target, throw the discussion into an area where HE feels confrontable. The the LIE about Social Security. Social Security has problems BECAUSE the Borrow and Spend losers in HIS fascist party have raided the fund and spent all the money on Tax Cuts for the rich. Does this bother this loser? NOPE. Does it bother him that this nation pays out nearly TWICE what the workers and citizens of Canada does. NOPE he doesn''t want to discuss those issues. AREN''T you tired of this? We''ve heard this same tired old trash now for over 30 years and what have THEY done to fix the problem? Has the number of UNINSURED gone down under fascist rule even ONCE? Now the way I see it you can continue to listen to the lies and half truths of these freaks or you can vote for the other party. YOU know they aren''t going to do ONE THING, not one, to solve the problem. THAT''s a fact no one can get around. Sieg Heil Bush

[killtheliars]

jowand,

Even if the drugs from Canada are made in the US, like you say they are purchased cheaper and then sold cheaper to the consumer.
As for chinese drugs US pharmacutical companies purchase drugs from china all the time and then market them like they are an American made product, so what''s the difference?

[jowand]

I will take every dollar the you have because my right to be rich is greater than your rights for good health care."
Posted by Oscarez at 09:38 AM : Feb 26, 2008

You forgot one, "I will kill the child in the womb at the tax payers expense"

[jowand]

The same goverment you want running health care is the same one which is bankrupting SS.