Comments on: Transplant Decision Too Late, Teen Dies

Insurer Initially Refused To Pay For Liver Transplant; Girl Dies After Procedure Approved

[chitown639]

Insurance is the biggest ripe off in America. Both political parties are in bed with them, along with pharma companies, and the FDA. Their goal is to keep every Americans in need of health care and using their drugs for life. The politicans sold the American people out long ago. Theyre not protecting us, theyre protecting Big Pharm and Insurance. And as long as we continue allow them take social issues and turn them into a Democratic or Republican football we will continue to be blind to the truth. We will continue to be divided and fight along party lines. Lets abolish the insurance companies and have state run health care. It''s a socialist system either way, but I''d rather pay higher taxes than pay the insurance companies.

[closethippy1]

Liberals are rich and what that means is that as far as the economics of it are concerned, they''re going along to get along.
Big deal.
But at least they care to build a society that looks after itself instead of trying to create some kind of anarchist and rightwing utopia where it''s everyone for themselves.
How can you build a country that way? How can you call yourself a patriot and yet not give a d.amn about 40+ million fellow Americans without insurance just because some private enterprise wants it to be that way?
The amount of brainwashing rightwingers have gone through in the US is going to end up throwing ourselves out of balance and make it so much more difficult to ractify our problems.
They''re mindless and ruthless like a bunch of barbarians. Watch out for them.

[republic1776]

No dis-respect but this is the rich liberals push for their agenda. Puppies sell.
Would a fat ugly person get the limeline?
Liberal''s are rich too, AND are slave masters hidden in the form of
"do gooders" so I can pay lower wages. (The Socialist Government I "make" will pay for my lack of responsibilty)


It''s EXTREME rich vs. poor, part does NOT matter

[republic1776]

This is sad and despicable
The insurance company goal is to take in as much money as possible and pay as little.
The Insurance company should be charged with Second degree murder, and help liable.
However, this story is getting playtime to push the liberal Agenda, Government Health Care.
If charge private companies get their mistake both criminally and monetary they will clean their act up because it will be less profitable.
Give Health care to the Government it will be a nightmare and cost Americans dearly wile the politicizing gain power and pad them and their buddies pockets along the way.
The liberal%u2019s are rich people too!

[southerndoc]

mh4cbs1, government waste will continue, and you can rest assured that programs will not be eliminated to pay for a socialized health system. If that were the case, the government would be eliminating wasteful spending to keep from cutting Medicare payments by 10%. Although Congress voted on a 6 month reprieve, I can guarantee you that if the rate cutes go into effect in June 08, Medicare patients will have more difficulty gaining access to primary care physicians and specialists.

Let''s hope that if we go to a nationalized health system that it''s much better than our current model: Medicare.

[southerndoc]

Andor, regarding employers paying more for not needing to purchase health insurance for their employees: keep in mind that employees who have employer-purchased health coverage aren''t the ones that are really suffering. Most patients get approval for most healthcare through their HMO. It''s a minority that don''t. The main problem are people who cannot afford health insurance and are not covered by their employer. For them, they would be paying more for coverage (taxes) because they currently do not have coverage and their employer doesn''t offer it, so there will be no additional income by the employer not needing to purchase insurance.

For those with insurance, with corporate America as greedy as HMO America, who says employers will actually give payraises to its employees if it no longer needs to purchase insurance for the employer?

[otdky07]

Her prognosis with or without the liver transplant was abysmal at best. Her''s is an unfortunatre case, and I don''t want to appear calloused, but with a shortage of organs it would have been wasteful to give her a liver when someone else could have benefited from it. The reason why this country''s healthcare system costs are out of control is because of all the futile care we provide to the elderly. For example, every time granny is kept on life support for an extra few days until cousin Zeke can come down from the hills ties up a huge amount of resources. It is usually the families who are being treated, not the patients.

[nothappyatall]

The insurer "maliciously killed her" because it did not want to bear the expense of her transplant and aftercare, "

Insurance co is a business,and in business to make MONEY not charity, they already covered her recurrent leukemia and marrow transplant, and if a 17 year old has all those other problems at that young an age he/she isn''t going to live to a ripe old age.

Liver transplant would also require immune suppression drugs for life, here''s a case of bad genes and there''s no fix for bad genes.

Had they not had the insurance in the first place the result in the end would have been the same.

[johnshaft4]

Correction: It''s:

"All animals are equal, but Republican pigs are more equal."

[godofredo29]

I knew a man, now deceased, who is in the Insurance Hall of Fame, but he didn''t live to see the depths of depravity to which the industry has fallen. He must be rolling over in his grave now. As an executive he often times okay''d payouts that technically didn''t qualify but that common sense told one to go ahead on--e.g., a woman who burned down her house because the abuse she was enduring in her marriage; a man who experienced a sort of hysterical conversion that resulted in temporary paralysis which conveniently resolved itself when he was informed he may have to undergo radical surgery, but not before $30,000 had been spent on his care, that sort of thing. The industry has gone from the entreprenuerial days of no absolute guarentees against catastrophic losses to the current situation similar to that of banks where any loss on the part of the company is viewed as an impossibility to be insured against at the expense of the policy holder alone. This while insurance companies continue to maintain--as they''ve always been required to--large surpluses as a hedge against unforseen eventualities. But, now these surpluses have become inviolate as they are used more and more as a basis for extensive investing.

[usayesterday]

I SHIIT ON ALL LIBERALS FACES!!!!Posted by poopusbuttus at 08:39 PM

I have no doubt that pooping is your favorite activity, but actually poopin in people''''s faces? Me thinks that thou may require therapy.

Posted by rudy654 at 09:36 PM : Dec 21, 2007
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His condition is called: Fecalpheliac

[johnshaft4]

rohink- RE; ''"equal society"

All pigs are "equal", but Republican pigs are more equal.

[rohink-2009]

Since, apparently the officials at CIGNA don''''t have a heart, lets salvage THEIR kidneys (while they are alive.)

Posted by JohnShaft4

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You''re creepy.

[rohink-2009]

If the girl had recurring luekemia, already had a bone marrow transplant, was in a vegetative state etc. How much money did the insurance companies already give out in benefits? At what point do you draw the line. Sure every life is precious, but impossible to save everyone. And if you think nationalized medicine is going to insure that everyone gets everything they need, you''re crazy. We have a shortage of hospital, doctors and nurses. High cost of medical malpractice insurance, not to mention the over crowding of hospitals that are taking care of the poor and unisured and a lot of the time illegal. There is no such thing nor can there ever be a society in which everyone is equal.

[johnshaft4]

Since, apparently the officials at CIGNA don''t have a heart, lets salvage THEIR kidneys (while they are alive.)

[rudy654-2009]

I SHIIT ON ALL LIBERALS FACES!!!!Posted by poopusbuttus at 08:39 PM

I have no doubt that pooping is your favorite activity, but actually poopin in people''s faces? Me thinks that thou may require therapy.

[ender18-2009]

If she was in a coma, with recurrent leukemia and a failed bone marrow transplant. It is doubtful that a transplant would have made a significant difference. It is unfortunate but realistic to see that we cannot complain about high premiums while perform very costly procedures that will not change the outcome. She likely would have died during the transplant surgery.

[inesje88]

There is now talk in many states (incl. my own of CO), that you will be required to have health insur. They will "incourage" business to offer it, but it will up to people to who do not have coverage @ work or who, lets say can only find p.t. work , and work, several part time jobs, to purchase it in the "open" market. Open my a--. With the mergers of many companies there are only a few left to choose from and if there is no regulation to what they can charge(that would be gov. intervention),or even cover, we, the citizens have no protection. CEo''s like William Mc Guire (formerly of United Health), who only make around 340+million yr. will still feel intitled to break the law a back date stocks.If things go as planned in CO, you won''t be allowed to reg. a car w/o insurance, there will be tax penalties and even jail time.CEO''s like McGuire can steal hundreds of millions from patients and in reward get a 1.1 billion dollar present to resign.Lesson, if you break the law, make certain you donate to the Rep. party.

[poopusbuttus]

And, your still a dummy

Posted by poopusbuttus

Thou protests too much.


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Posted by l8c6


Me thinks all of you liberals are still dummies.

Keep posting your stupid regurgitaed thoughts on here. Us conservatives enjoy them. We really do.

[l8c6]

And, your still a dummy

Posted by poopusbuttus

Thou protests too much.