Comments on: Ignored By 911, Woman Dies In Hospital

Emergency Operators Did Little To Help A Woman Dying In A Hospital Waiting Room

[wiccantexan]

It really doesn't matter if she was French, German, Italian, Mexican, Caucasion, Polish.
What matters is the care she received which was none.
Posted by shammy0202 at 09:38 AM : Jun 15, 2007

Agreed. But the focus was shifted to how "illegals are ruining/exploiting the American medical care system," so that's where the topic came in. It seemed to be a sticking point, but with faulty logic. This type of mentality may have been part of the reason why this woman was neglected; we don't really know.

[shammy0202]

It really doesn't matter if she was French, German, Italian, Mexican, Caucasion, Polish.
What matters is the care she received which was none.

[wiccantexan]

This lady was arrested for a parole violation as she lay spewing blood on the floor, seems kinda cruel and unusual doesn't it?
Posted by mikealford3 at 10:53 PM : Jun 14, 2007

I agree entirely. There is NO reason that personnel trained and dedicated to saving lives should have let that woman suffer and die right in front of them, and the 911 operator should be fired. He wasn't there; he could not judge the situation. But with callers telling him there was an emergency, he should have erred on the side of caution and gotten this woman some help.

And the police; I have no words. Time enough to book her when she's stable; it's not like she was in any condition to flee.

[wiccantexan]

Correction; the African bloodline would also be a mixed-race heritage. I don't believe that's really very prevalent, however. I could be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me. ;)

Bottom line: "White" is a skin color, not a race. That's a common error. The darkest-skinned Mexican, while not considering themselves "white" culturally and ethnically, are of the Caucasoid race just as much as the lightest-skinned European heritage.

[wiccantexan]

Well.. this is off subject but aren't most Mexicans of mixed race? native American and European? (Spanish, German or Irish?) and aren't many Latinos (from Brazil, Puerto Rico, etc) mixed also with African Blood?

it appears that no Mexican would call themselves white because they are of mixed heritage and are just as proud of their native ancestry or the blend that they are as they are of the European part.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 12:00 AM : Jun 15, 2007

Mexicans, technically, are Caucasiod. Most of the "mixed blood" that you noted was ethnic, NOT race. Europeans are Caucasiod, so are Mexicans. Though they do have a strong blend of Spanish blood, the race is identical. What they have is an ETHNIC blend. The only race mix you mentioned would be the Indian, which is techically Mongoloid.

As for Mexicans calling themselves white, again, my Mexican husband thought the whole discussion was ludicrious. He doesn't call himself "white" ethnically, but as to race, he's in the same category as anyone with European blood.

[brianbwb-2009]

Score another for the LAPD, arrest a dying woman for parole violation.

Maybe they thought that if she were in jail, she would receive medical care, I wonder if they were going to actually put her in the squad car, then noticed she was already dead.

Gives credence to the "no snitch" ethos of the rappers, doesn't it?

No wonder the LAPD is known around the world as a group of lawless thugs, really good job, you stupid, (imagine your own expletives here, I want to use too many)...

[louklou51]

Now I have heard everything, that hospital should be shut down and a complete investigation undertaken, there is no excuse for what happened, someone has to be held accountable.

[brianbwb-2009]

Here's how to make sure it doesn't happen again;

1. Subsidize med school for doctors, under a bond to serve duty for four years in a public hospital, funded by taxes on cigarettes, alcohol, firearms, marijuana, and cocaine (the last two because, since it can never be stopped, it might as well be taxed), set and publish treatment prices at tiered levels, based on income.

2. Issue new drug patents for maximum five years duration, after which the drug becomes generic, and cheaper.

3. Recover the money taken from the so-called "untouchable" Social Security, and Medicare funds from the companies who received them, and the politicians who got the kickbacks and other "donations" from said companies.

4. Prohibit 6 and 7 day work weeks, give a day for rest, and a day for religious observance (or a second rest day for those who don't observe religion.

There you go, no burden on employers, or workers, no windfalls for insurance and drug companies, but access to adequate health care for all, less tax money spent incarcerating marijuana and coke users, and reduces stress levels from overwork, a preventive action.

Too bad all the politicos are too afraid to do the correct thing, though...

[toldyouso21]

LOL! I'll be sure to pass that along to my Mexican husband and his family (2 generations removed from Mexico), who get into quite a rant over "Mexican" being called a race. They will trot out the scientifics of "race" in a heartbeat, and let you know in no uncertain terms that Mexican is an ethnicity, and only an uneducated person would say otherwise.
Posted by WiccanTexan at 04:45 PM : Jun 14, 2007


Well.. this is off subject but aren't most Mexicans of mixed race? native American and European? (Spanish, German or Irish?) and aren't many Latinos (from Brazil, Puerto Rico, etc) mixed also with African Blood?

it appears that no Mexican would call themselves white because they are of mixed heritage and are just as proud of their native ancestry or the blend that they are as they are of the European part.

[mikealford3]

She was arrested for a parole violation as she lay dieing. He11 even death row inmate get medical help if needed. And to think some people think Lethal Injection is cruel and unusual punishment. This lady was arrested for a parole violation as she lay spewing blood on the floor, seems kinda cruel and unusual doesn't it?