Duke: GLB's tactics are pretty clear. This is an old tactic. One slowly brings in mildly off-topic issues to get the rest off subject. Pretty soon, a debate erupts which has nothing to do with the original topic, but did manage to get individuals' to stop talking about the issue. It's a modus operandi, referred to as duck and cover.
Why does this GLB... aka SOB still send posts? You must still beieve in the refrig. mom theory of Autism. It is clear your advice is not only of no interest as you are so biased and are now so off the topic with religion & evolution. There is definetly much more reason to beleieve Thimerosal is a cause as the numbers are trying to tell us something.
I am surprised it has not been done yet. Posted by nitzalerner
In some ways it has been done: In the general population of the US the ratio is 1 : 166. In the Amish population, who do not vaccinate, the numbers are 1 : 15,000.
Since there has been such a debate about the conection between Autisim and vaccin I think this can be checked and study at a low cost and in short time,by simply contacting a large number of Pedeiatric clinics around the country and collect information on the health of all the children that have not been vaccinated between the years 1991 and 2003,and see how many of this children have developed Autisim.If none or a much smaller percentege have developed it, than the answer can be found right there. I am surprised it has not been done yet.
"...It has everything to do with the debate. If you are so religously damaged and corrupted as to be unable to see clearly enough the science and logic behind the vaccination concept..." posted by glb1969
You are generalizing your argument with Shmedley1 to the entire concept.
I do believe in evolution. I am not religious.
You cannot use your patronizing "you're too religous to understand SCIENCE" with me.
There have been several posts that poke holes in your science--for multiple reasons. You are avoiding debating by dismissing all of us like you dismiss Shmedley1.
Pick on somebody else, and really discuss things, or stop trolling.
Kimberly, I for one do have a child with Autism as well. He is my pride and joy and has progressed by leaps and bounds. I HAVE done much research, but looking for trustworthy sites to gain correct information. I do not trust the FDA or CDC sites because I believe they are biased and covering their butts. I do blame thimerisol and I have so far had all my children vaccinated which scares me. There is a doctor nearby named Stephanie Cave who believes that thimerisol is the cause as well as the doctors where I took my children for the last 2 years. I'm disappointed in people like glb who are ignorant and believe that parents should not put their children's lives first but the "needs of many" who should be taking care of their own needs.
GLB: You are correct - I will ignore your advice. With all due respect, this is not about religion or evolution (which is why I did not expand on further posts addressing it). It is about MMR and Thimerosol, whether in part or as a whole. It is about the vaccination, ingredients, the autism epidemic, the children and the parents, not religion. This court case is FINALLY their day to be heard.
You apparently missed prior posts. Healthy bodies, at least in my opinion, has nothing to do with autism. The comment was made to SY2502 as he was talking about me not vaccinating my children and would it concern me if they were in contact with others who had a disease. So the comment was not towards autism, but, towards vaccintions in general. And yes, I have an autistic niece (3 y/o) and see what her parents go through; so I'm well aware, though not directly involved. In one of my prior posts I made mention that parents with autistic children endure far more than I think I could ever bare.
I am with Kimberley on this one. Perhaps the individuals that beleive Not vaccinating should worry with their children having the healthiest body system as possible and shelter them. However, I am not against the vaccine. I too am against the preservative Thimerosal used! I too can not beleive they are still using it in flu shots and not putting a warning on it for youd children. My son is autistic and myself have put everything I have into helping my son from the simple things to what is going to determine his future. The only problem is there are too many people trying to protect themselves from the blame on this one. I also keep saying it.... but if is safe....why did they start taking it out? Also, with being told by my sons pediatrician that quit her practice to go Iraq... when she told me not to immunizate for chicken pox.... that it wasnt safe... I think then she was telling me to be careful. I just wish I had known sooner.
What does having healthy system body do with Autism. The subject is autism. Do you have a Autistic child? I believe you need to investigate autism then try and talk about it. I believe I'm speaking with individuals that really dont know what their talking about. Autism has to do with the treasure part of the brain and is over stimulated. You must not have a child with Autism. This site is for the noneducated individuals and I wont be writing on here or wasting my time.
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Posted by nitzalerner
In some ways it has been done: In the general population of the US the ratio is 1 : 166. In the Amish population, who do not vaccinate, the numbers are 1 : 15,000.
posted by glb1969
You are generalizing your argument with Shmedley1 to the entire concept.
I do believe in evolution. I am not religious.
You cannot use your patronizing "you're too religous to understand SCIENCE" with me.
There have been several posts that poke holes in your science--for multiple reasons. You are avoiding debating by dismissing all of us like you dismiss Shmedley1.
Pick on somebody else, and really discuss things, or stop trolling.
You are correct - I will ignore your advice. With all due respect, this is not about religion or evolution (which is why I did not expand on further posts addressing it).
It is about MMR and Thimerosol, whether in part or as a whole. It is about the vaccination, ingredients, the autism epidemic, the children and the parents, not religion. This court case is FINALLY their day to be heard.
So the comment was not towards autism, but, towards vaccintions in general.
And yes, I have an autistic niece (3 y/o) and see what her parents go through; so I'm well aware, though not directly involved. In one of my prior posts I made mention that parents with autistic children endure far more than I think I could ever bare.