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nomorelibs says:
If Assange and wikileaks can be prosecuted then why not te NY Times? I seriously do not understand the difference. They both are publishing stolen top secret documents. Anyone that publishes should be facing charges.
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greco99-2009 replies:
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What about anyone with a copy of the Pentagon Papers on their book shelf ? What about Cheney and Scooter Libby ?
nomorelibs replies:
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Wasn't Scooter Libby prosecuted?
greco99-2009 replies:
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Libby was prosecuted, of course. He was also partially pardoned by Bush. The other leakers Novak, Cheney and others were not prosecuted. This is in some ways a more serious case because it was willfully done to harm a CIA agent who was telling the truth and exposing Bush WMD lies. There is talk of more serious harm that came to Plame's contact who were working on a major nuclear non-proliferation project that was also exposed but received little news attention.
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infantryman1968 says:
by abbe91 December 16, 2010 10:28 AM EST
I never heard of an international law against espionage that could be used to indict Assange, a non US citizen, non US resident whose acts didn't take place on US soil.

LOL!

If any contact was mad between Assange and Manning prior to Manning dumping his files on wikileaks, they will be sharing a cell together for the rest of their lives.
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nottblu replies:
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rafterman, espionage against the U.S. and it's allies is a crime. And of course sex between consenting adults in America does not put Iran's security or citizens at risk, where do you come up with this tuff? WOW!
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TheBackDoorman says:
Freedom of the Press is guarnateed by our Bill of Rights. Bush walked on our Bill of Rights. Now Obama walks in Bush's jackal shoes.

Picture George Bush characterized as Alfred E. Newman on the cover of Mad Magazine. That's is where our country had gone to.

Leave the reporter's like Julian Assange alone and go after the real terrorist who sit in Pakistan laughing at our self destruction of destroying and rebuilding of a country that did nothing to us.

Our President's and General's are going mad or the CIA has spiked their drinks.
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Mortarman429 replies:
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Among the criminal laws apparently broken by Assange is 18 U.S.C. 793(e), which provides:

"Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, ... (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) ...

"Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

As is evident, merely being in unauthorized possession of classified national security documents that could be used to harm this country and publishing those documents constitutes a felony.

There's no exception for albinos with webpages -- or "journalists."
nottblu replies:
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backdoorman, which country "did nothing to us"?
TheBackDoorman replies:
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backdoorman, which country "did nothing to us"?

I'll answer that. Iraq nor Afghanastan did nothing to us.
Just because the small band of Bin Ladin had a single isolated camp in Afghanastan does not mean the country of Afghanastan attacked us. To the contrary the terroist are not of any country, but of individual's that live on the fringe of every country of the world. Yet Bush invades innocent country's based on the delusions of the recovering drunks mind.
patocc123 replies:
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So the defense you are giving with why the US should leave Assange alone is because we invaded Iraq/Afhgan?
nottblu replies:
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To state Sadam "did nothing to us" is either purposeful indifference to fact or purposeful ignorance. Afghanistan was taken over by the Taliban which allowed training camps for Osama to develope and carry out the attaks on 911, I would not catagorize that as nothing. What possible reason would you have to ignore or refute these facts and state "they did nothing", just curious.
TheBackDoorman replies:
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One tribal leader allowed Bin Ladin to put up a few tent's in the middle of nowhere Afghanastan and Bush invades a whole country instead of just going after the small camp. That's idiotic, and you agree to that, Nottbe. Terrorist in every country. Should we invade every country? Or, should we wise up and stop hunting terrorist with armies. That's like hunting deer with tanks. Wouldn't you agree, out of curiosity?
greco99-2009 replies:
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Some wrote: "As is evident, merely being in unauthorized possession of classified national security documents that could be used to harm this country and publishing those documents constitutes a felony."

This woud;l mean that anyone with a copy of the Pentagon Papers on their bookshelf should be in jail for 10 years. Or, what about AIPAC receiving classified info ?
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backdoorman, it is interesting to hear people state on the one hand there were no terrorists in Iraq as if terrorism IS country specific, then when that argument doesn't work in your statement you can on the other hand state terrorism is not country specific which in fact is true. But one can probably figure based on geograghic location and Muslim population percentage where the terrorists reside. I am for fighting at locations that primarily cause the most unrest in the world, not just "anyone who is not like us".
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Mortarman429 says:
Among the criminal laws apparently broken by Assange is 18 U.S.C. 793(e), which provides:

"Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, (etc. etc.) relating to the national defense, ... (which) the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates (etc. etc) the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same (etc) ...

"Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
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nor-one replies:
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So the brain washing has convinced the great unwashed that US law applies to every citizen of the world! Get real, the guy didn't do anything worse than let you read the truth. What a paranoid bunch of maroons!
greco99-2009 replies:
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This would mean that anyone with a copy of the Pentagon Papers on their bookshelf should be in jail for 10 years. And, what about AIPAC and others who received classified info...what about Scooter Libby...should they be punished ?
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Cyber998 says:
"WikiLeaks Assange Granted Conditional Bail"

Isn't bail inherently conditional? Is there such a thing as un-conditional bail?
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infantryman1968 says:
WikiLeaks' Assange Granted Conditional Bail

LOL!

Notice how the Obama followers are declaring Assange as their leader now.

Interesting............
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nottblu replies:
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rafterman, tell us why you think what Assange did was a good thing for America and it's allies or tell us why he shouldn't have done it.
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samXXkiley says:
coucou,
c'est une bonne nouvelle, il ya une justice au pays de sa majest?.
cela dit, julian assange est trait? comme un criminel, cela est malheureux et inacceptable.
il faut esp?rer que la su?de et les USA, cessent de le pers?cuter.
la justice am?ricaine refuse d' admettre qu'il s'agit d'une trahison,
et continue de focaliser sur assange
le jeune soldat qui a transmis ou vendu les informations a wikileaks, n'est qu'un maillon de la chaine.

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this is good news, there is justice in the land of his majesty.
That said, Julian Assange is treated like a criminal, this is unfortunate and unacceptable.
It is hoped that Sweden and the USA, stop persecuting him.
U.S. court refuses to admit that it is a betrayal
and continues to focus on Assange
the young soldier who has passed or sold the information to Wikileaks, is one link in the chain. au revoir.
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outtatheway says:
Now the US can grab him and take him to GITMO.
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nottblu replies:
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r004rd3d, you are saying you if that Assange is jailed or punsished for his act of espionage you would take up arms against the U.S., of course that is the very definition of treason, good luck with that.
abbe91 replies:
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nottblu,

I never heard of an international law against espionage that could be used to indict Assange, a non US citizen, non US resident whose acts didn't take place on US soil.
nottblu replies:
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abbe91, the state department stated his acts put lives in danger or worse. The revealing of classified information was a setback to diplomacy and cooperation which are essential elements in regards to Americas security. The folks that come on here and attempt to mitigate such an act which is espionage no matter how you twist it are not on the side of Americ. These are the same people who justify terrorism and blame the U.S. for everything. It was irresponsible and wrong of Assange to make public this information period, nothing positive can be gained from this unless you hate America and it's allies.
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greco99-2009 says:
Italian judge increases sentences for CIA agents who illegally kidnap and torture. Interpol probably has arrest notices. But for backroom deals there would be charges and arrest notices for Bush, Rumsfeld, and Cheney. Rumsfeld left Europe in a hurry three years ago to avoid possible arrest. Those cables will make interesting reading...
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greco99-2009 says:
If you actually read the leaks you can see the US supports a major heroin supplier (Hamid Karzai's brother). This does not help our policy in any way, and directly harms our country. Maybe those US officials (or contractors) that support the heroin lords should be charged under RICO for conspiracy related to large scale heroin sales?
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