Ezekiel 35:11-12........... 11 therefore, as I live," says the Lord God, "I will do according to your anger and according to the envy which you showed in your hatred against them; and I will make Myself known among them when I judge you. 12 Then you shall know that I am the Lord. I have heard all your blasphemies which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, 'They are desolate; they are given to us to consume.'
Short of getting involved in another messy arab conflict, there's not much we can do. So let them build it. Iran has to understand that if one of their nukes is ever used against another country, that the rest of he world will pound them out of existence.
IMHO, Not trying to provoke. It's BLUSTER. Trying to gain face among other Arab nations.
Remember Saddam? His empty threats: "The Mother Of All Battles"?
It's a cultural thing. Arabs who stand up to the west, and especially against the "Satan America" gain credibility amongst their Arab brethren. Iran wishes to become the leading Islamic power in the world - so they cater to their audience.
One would think that they would have learned the lessons that the US and Israel have demonstrated to them so many times: We don't bull$hit, we play for keeps, FIRST time.
Unfortunately for them, and as Saddam proved, more often than not the threats are so much pi$$ in the wind.
Never fear, Iran will NEVER be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.
The only workable solution to this problem is for the Middle East to become a Nuclear Weapons free zone. No one should have Nuclear weapons in the Middle East including Israel. It is not going to work if one Middle East Country is allowed to have Nuclear Weapons while at the same time, you're telling their neighbors that they are prohibited from having them.
Apparently, there are some here who have never heard of "nuclear fallout", are unaware of Israel's "Samson Option", and pretend that they don't understand the ramifications of the outcome they espouse.
There can be no intelligent exchange of differing viewpoints with those who are ignorant of simple, proven facts. Not when that ignorance is bred by pure, bigoted hatred.
HOW CAN WE HELP THE PARTIES IN CONFLICT OVERCOME WHAT ARE THEIR IMMUTABLE RELIGIOUS DEFICITS?
Any reference to MAD as a deterrent, contains one major flaw: MAD or Mutually Assured Destruction is not a deterrent for current, "murder-destroy-and-die-for", Apocalyptic-minded Iranian rulers.
The current religiously-fanatical (and yes religiously and otherwise FASCISTIC) Iranian rulers, actually PLAN AND PRAY FOR achieving the capability to precipitate The Apocalypse, as their "Holy Islamic Duty", in order that they create the 'right conditions' for The Mahdi's (the Muslim Messiah's) arrival, for The Mahdi to impose "God/Allah-approved" Strict Islamic Law or Sharia onto the entire world. Unfortunately, the 'right conditions' means AFTER WORLD DESTRUCTION.
URGENT NEED FOR TEMPERING IMMUTABLE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIOUS MINDSET Freedom of Religion may be an inherent right, but freedom to degenerate into the dangerous and destructive fantasy of religious thinking and mindset, which is invariably based on highly-subjective, holier-than-thou viewpoints, revelations, visions, and/or delusions, transpires into something not nearly as wonderful as once taught and thought. The forgoing particularly applies to Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
If anything can be considered warped, irrational, and extremely dangerous mindset as the result of RELIGIOUS FANTASY ...
... we are living witnesses to just about the greatest threat to our planet's existence: The Apocalyptic plans as "Holy Islamic Purpose and Duty" that Iranian Ayatollahs and Iranian Leaders envision, for all people and all nations. By now, that is self evident.
CONCLUSION: "Nothing is permanent, exception change."
We have never experienced a war with NUCLEAR EXCHANGES. The horrors that religion and religious thinking with past 'state of the art' devices of torture, destruction and murder, are paled by our latest 'advances' - our bio, chem, and nuketechs being applied to "God's will".
MAD or Mutually Assured Destruction canNOT be applied to Iranian Ayatollahs' and Iranian Leaders' mindsets - their Apocalyptic-mindsets!
Chuck, don't bother. Anyone who doesn't know the meaning of the phrase "nuclear EXCHANGE", yet blathers on about it, is obviously not worth trying to discuss this with.
There can be no discussion when one side is too ignorant or bigoted to respond rationally.
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The fanatic Mullahs in Iran will NEVER be allowed to complete their nuclear weapons program.
You make your bed, you sleep in it!
11 therefore, as I live," says the Lord God, "I will do according to your anger and according to the envy which you showed in your hatred against them; and I will make Myself known among them when I judge you. 12 Then you shall know that I am the Lord. I have heard all your blasphemies which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, 'They are desolate; they are given to us to consume.'
Remember Saddam? His empty threats: "The Mother Of All Battles"?
It's a cultural thing. Arabs who stand up to the west, and especially against the "Satan America" gain credibility amongst their Arab brethren. Iran wishes to become the leading Islamic power in the world - so they cater to their audience.
One would think that they would have learned the lessons that the US and Israel have demonstrated to them so many times: We don't bull$hit, we play for keeps, FIRST time.
Unfortunately for them, and as Saddam proved, more often than not the threats are so much pi$$ in the wind.
Never fear, Iran will NEVER be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.
There can be no intelligent exchange of differing viewpoints with those who are ignorant of simple, proven facts. Not when that ignorance is bred by pure, bigoted hatred.
WHAT ARE THEIR IMMUTABLE RELIGIOUS DEFICITS?
Any reference to MAD as a deterrent, contains one major flaw:
MAD or Mutually Assured Destruction is not a deterrent for current,
"murder-destroy-and-die-for", Apocalyptic-minded Iranian rulers.
The current religiously-fanatical (and yes religiously and otherwise FASCISTIC) Iranian rulers, actually PLAN AND PRAY FOR achieving the capability to precipitate The Apocalypse, as their "Holy Islamic Duty", in order that they create the 'right conditions' for The Mahdi's (the Muslim Messiah's) arrival, for The Mahdi to impose "God/Allah-approved" Strict Islamic Law or Sharia onto the entire world. Unfortunately, the 'right conditions' means AFTER WORLD DESTRUCTION.
URGENT NEED FOR TEMPERING IMMUTABLE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIOUS MINDSET
Freedom of Religion may be an inherent right, but freedom to degenerate into the dangerous and destructive fantasy of religious thinking and mindset, which is invariably based on highly-subjective, holier-than-thou viewpoints, revelations, visions, and/or delusions, transpires into something not nearly as wonderful as once taught and thought. The forgoing particularly applies to Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
If anything can be considered warped, irrational, and extremely dangerous mindset as the result of RELIGIOUS FANTASY ...
... we are living witnesses to just about the greatest threat to our planet's existence:
The Apocalyptic plans as "Holy Islamic Purpose and Duty" that Iranian Ayatollahs and Iranian Leaders envision, for all people and all nations.
By now, that is self evident.
CONCLUSION:
"Nothing is permanent, exception change."
We have never experienced a war with NUCLEAR EXCHANGES.
The horrors that religion and religious thinking with past 'state of the art' devices of torture, destruction and murder, are paled by our latest 'advances' - our bio, chem, and nuketechs being applied to "God's will".
MAD or Mutually Assured Destruction canNOT be applied to Iranian Ayatollahs'
and Iranian Leaders' mindsets - their Apocalyptic-mindsets!
There can be no discussion when one side is too ignorant or bigoted to respond rationally.