Gun fight at Gaza , Sinai , Israel , Egypt corner between Israel and hamas , so now that the standard is drawn in the sand , what next more hamas stupidity ?
Better to talk than shoot , just ask the families of the lost .
Note to Israel: Don't fall for phony ceasefires, kill as many Hamas cockroaches as you can.
Note to Americans: Every Islamist fighter, politician or sympathizer that gets killed is one less that can immigrate to America and try to impose Shariah law.
All three of these dangerous Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, & Islam) were designed and covertly installed in a serial way by outside offensive totalitarian ETs, who repeatedly masqueraded as Divinity toward mankind over a period of several thousand Earth years in the process of installing them into our world. They are all components of a larger PWMD, or Program Weapon of Mass Destruction, designed to crash and explode our emerging human world in a final programmed cataclysm known as the Christian Apocalypse or World War III. Our emerging human world as actually been under covert biocybernetic warfare attack by these outside offensive totalitarian ETs, who are trying thwart mankind's successful emergence as a full fledged member of our greater galactic community, so they can one day steal and annex our extremely valuable celestial real estate, and render mankind extinct here on Earth one day. These outside offensive totalitarian ETs were forced to take this covert approach at territorial expansion because there are Free Galaxy powers which reside elsewhere in our Milky Way galaxy, who currently stand in the way of overt military conquest on a stellar level. These ETs want to invoke their eminent domain rights of military intervention in our sector of the Milky Way galaxy, so they can move in on our extremely valuable celestial real estate while once more masquerading as Divinity toward mankind, this time as the returning Christ or Messiah. The real "Gospel" or "Good News" is that mankind potentially has countless millions (even billions) of years of growth, development and expansion ahead of them, so long as they don't fall for these ET designed and installed terminal religious belief systems known as the Abrahamic religions. - Rick Carter
(I know all of this because I personally lived at Wright Patterson Air Force base from 1951 to 1953, while my grandfather (Colonel Charles Faulkner Carter) was second in command there, and he was personally involved in the background investigation into the Roswell Incident of 1947.)
Rick - any civilization advanced enough to travel between the stars would have no need for the eons-long plot you outline above to take our "extremely valuable celestial real estate". If such a race of beings actually existed and wanted us gone, they could no doubt wipe us out and move in with little effort, and in a very short period of time - Hours? Days? Months maybe? No more that that...
First of all, a very happy Thanksgiving to you & yours.
Secondly, no rancor here - I don't converse here to pi$$ people off or put people down. I can disagree with you without hating you! (Something the slavering, right-wing, tea-bagger nut-jobs in this country should consider carefully).
You don't need backup, just explain why a race that has invented faster-than-light travel needs to go through all that rigamarole to wipe us out and move in.
Also appreciated would be how a common G-class star, 2/3rds of the way radially from the galactic center, in a nondescript arm of a very average barred-spiral galaxy qualifies as: "Extremely valuable celestial real estate"!
That's actually the part of your post I have the most trouble with!
(UFPs ??? Running out of time here !!! I have been endlessly discredited by every part of the U.S. government for over 60 years now! TIME IS RUNNING OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!) - RC
This just in: Vogon Constructor Ships have entered orbit. Whatever you do, give your sandwich to that dog. And remember, if you can't see him, he can't see you either.
Easy there, Rick! I have nothing to do directly with the US government (I am a US citizen - but *private* citizen with a non-government job). I'm just some schmoe on a CBSNEWS website chat page!
However, I do have a background in science which is why I make the points and ask the questions I do.
No point, no credibility. No b@lls to debate, because he (she?) knows he speaks lies.
Funny thing is - he must think that he's going to change anything by his endless mindless, bigoted posts on some message board.
Yeah: I read it on the CBSNEWS message board, I change my mind. I need to call my congressional representatives, heck - ALL elected officials, and tell them of my epiphany!
"We need to abandon Israel. Withdraw ALL our support. Watch as they are all murdered. Because after that, all the Arabs, ESPECIALLY the Muslim fanatics, will be done with their pogrom. We'll finally be SAFE, here in the good ole USA".
lol one thing Slappy (Slow) isn't, is a plant. He doesn't much care for Israel it's true, but he mostly objects to them operationg with OUR money. (Also any money going to the Arabs, Japan, Europe...you get the idea. ..)
See? There you go with the ad-hominem attacks - business as usual, eh, slow?
Who can't handle perspective? Don't mistake someone's disagreement with your viewpoint with someone not hearing it.
Newsflash: I happen to disagree with your views. I have posted rebuttal after rebuttal to your points. You exhibit the expected behavior: You'll obfuscate, try to argue, harangue, anything, until you're backed into a logical corner. Then you bail.
SO MANY threads of reasonable debate with you, and the last post on that thread is my refutation of your "points". No response, just avoidance. You hop onto another thread, and spout the same silly rhetoric I've already gutted elsewhere.
Yesterday, you even cut & pasted your response to one of my points in message board "A", and posted it as the first point in message board "B"!
It's like "Ground Hog Day"! You're not interested in a cogent debate, only in furthering your short-sighted (or bigoted) agenda.
I'm about done with you. Whatever your agenda, if you can't discuss it like an intelligent adult who believes what they say, then you've lost a lot of credibility here.
Thanks, coffee. I too highly value well thought out debate about important issues. The clash of opposing viewpoints has served this country well over the years. It's the value-add of democracy!
Isolationism is a thorny issue - especially in these $ucky financial times: It's certainly attractive on many levels. However, I honestly think that if we turn our backs on the rest of the planet, it'll come back to bite us BIG TIME at some point.
Isolationism means something very different today, with the internet and nuclear bombs, than it did even thirty years ago.
I like this. You two really do get that the other's viewpoint has tactical value. And Lew, my friend Slappy (aka Slow) has an amazingly effective **** deflector. It took me a while too to finally see the mind at work there. Then I appreciated it a lot. And Slappy, his arguments are thought about, and therefore useful.
You call me a plant or a bigot, then accuse me of ad-hominem attacks?
Nice hypocrisy there, Lew.
Sheesh.
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Your intellectual cowardice is what indicts you, slow. You don't debate, you spew hatred. Logically, you are either a plant with an anti-Israeli agenda or a bigot.
I logically arrive at that conclusion because the obvious result of our nation adopting your stance (withdrawing all support for Israel) is the rapid and complete eradication of Israel and the Jews living in their UN-mandated homeland.
Are you going to say that if the US did NOT support Israel they'd be OK anyway????
Just wondering...
Follow your statements through to the end. What do YOU think will happen in the Middle East if in fact our country does as you propose?
Either you can't see that obvious outcome (in which case you really deserve your handle), or you WANT that to happen - in which case you're either a plant or a bigot.
Coffee, I get it about not "not needing to poke our finger in every bees nest on the planet".
Just to be clear: We're not talking about "every bees nest" here, just one in particular. IMHO each "bees nest" needs to be separately debated and decided on its own merits, so let's not confuse the issue at hand - OK?
Isolationism is a very difficult issue, with few clear positive strategies for our country. But I personally feel that we are the sole remaining superpower on the planet, so we therefore inherit a certain "noblesse oblige" - the "obligation of the nobility".
I maintain that completely withdrawing all US support for Israel today would have horrifying consequences for us as a nation.
Fanatic Muslims have clearly said, repeatedly, that they will not rest or put down their arms until ALL "infidels" (anyone who does not worship as they do) are exterminated.
I believe that in this hypothetical scenario, after eradicating the Jews and Israel, the fundamentalist Muslims would turn their attention to US.
Slow, I'm done trying to debate with you. You have repeatedly displayed a lack of the skills, the courage, and the defendable-viable points, to enter into such an endeavor with me.
Anyway, and with no rancor, happy Thanksgiving to you & yours.
I see - because I disagree with you, you think I'm evil.
Grow up.
I don't support Israel because they don't DESERVE our support. They have never once acted as our ally.
Withdraw ALL presence in the Middle East, and let it implode. Israel is not our problem.
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Slow, Thank you for so clearly embodying my points.
1) I never used the word "evil". ----- Strawman tactic.
2) "Grow up". ----- Unfounded personal attack, playground tactic.
3) "Withdraw ALL presence in the Middle East, and let it implode". ----- Short sighted, to say the least.
Answer this simple question, coward: What would happen after (or maybe DURING) the destruction of Israel and the eradication of the Jewish state?
BTW - I call you a coward because you continually duck my tough questions. It's not an ad-hominem attack, it is an honest, personal appraisal of your tactics in virtual conversations. Feel free to disprove said appraisal...
Missle firing has stopped .......... Does that mean that they have run out ? Mad rush in Iran and the US to resupply them, and then here we go again .....
A truce is like trying to win a battle over alcohol. It takes just one more shot to ruin it all.
Although both nations claim victory, there are no winners only losers, especially those who have lost their loved ones. On this scenario, real victory could only occur when both nations are able to overcome hatred and start loving one another. But that would require much humility, strength and resolve... or perhaps a new religious doctrine for both.
Two battered prize fighters between rounds resting in their corners licking their wounds waiting for the bell to ring for the next round. $450 million to Egypt for speaking up and millions more to Israel to beef up their weapons system. Peace for $$$$ . Americans are paying the tab.
Hamas says it has won the conflict. And peace will exist forever...
Who are we kidding? Hamas is a terrorist organization that has sacrificed hundreds of Palestinians for a truce that it will not honor anyways.
Even more terrifying, Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas left his people in harm's way while he was dined and entertained away from the fighting by the Egyptian leader of the Muslim brotherhood.
And to add more terror, these terrorist organizations think wrongly that time is on their side and in that in ten years time the billion peaceful Muslims will destroy their future to follow Hamas and other terrorist organizations in a mad jihad.
If the truce ends Haniyeh, you will not escape the wrath of God.
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Better to talk than shoot , just ask the families of the lost .
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/07/alan-hart-israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-the-full-story/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/07/alan-hart-israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-the-full-story/
Note to Americans: Every Islamist fighter, politician or sympathizer that gets killed is one less that can immigrate to America and try to impose Shariah law.
(I know all of this because I personally lived at Wright Patterson Air Force base from 1951 to 1953, while my grandfather (Colonel Charles Faulkner Carter) was second in command there, and he was personally involved in the background investigation into the Roswell Incident of 1947.)
Rick - any civilization advanced enough to travel between the stars would have no need for the eons-long plot you outline above to take our "extremely valuable celestial real estate". If such a race of beings actually existed and wanted us gone, they could no doubt wipe us out and move in with little effort, and in a very short period of time - Hours? Days? Months maybe? No more that that...
Do you know what Occam's Razor is?
First of all, a very happy Thanksgiving to you & yours.
Secondly, no rancor here - I don't converse here to pi$$ people off or put people down. I can disagree with you without hating you! (Something the slavering, right-wing, tea-bagger nut-jobs in this country should consider carefully).
You don't need backup, just explain why a race that has invented faster-than-light travel needs to go through all that rigamarole to wipe us out and move in.
Also appreciated would be how a common G-class star, 2/3rds of the way radially from the galactic center, in a nondescript arm of a very average barred-spiral galaxy qualifies as: "Extremely valuable celestial real estate"!
That's actually the part of your post I have the most trouble with!
However, I do have a background in science which is why I make the points and ask the questions I do.
Got your towel?
RIP D Adams. I loved that guy. One of the last true F***ing geniuses.
No point, no credibility. No b@lls to debate, because he (she?) knows he speaks lies.
Funny thing is - he must think that he's going to change anything by his endless mindless, bigoted posts on some message board.
Yeah: I read it on the CBSNEWS message board, I change my mind. I need to call my congressional representatives, heck - ALL elected officials, and tell them of my epiphany!
"We need to abandon Israel. Withdraw ALL our support. Watch as they are all murdered. Because after that, all the Arabs, ESPECIALLY the Muslim fanatics, will be done with their pogrom. We'll finally be SAFE, here in the good ole USA".
Right?
Are you trying to tell me he's actually a very uninformed total isolationist American????
Scary...
Who can't handle perspective? Don't mistake someone's disagreement with your viewpoint with someone not hearing it.
Newsflash: I happen to disagree with your views. I have posted rebuttal after rebuttal to your points. You exhibit the expected behavior: You'll obfuscate, try to argue, harangue, anything, until you're backed into a logical corner. Then you bail.
SO MANY threads of reasonable debate with you, and the last post on that thread is my refutation of your "points". No response, just avoidance. You hop onto another thread, and spout the same silly rhetoric I've already gutted elsewhere.
Yesterday, you even cut & pasted your response to one of my points in message board "A", and posted it as the first point in message board "B"!
It's like "Ground Hog Day"! You're not interested in a cogent debate, only in furthering your short-sighted (or bigoted) agenda.
I'm about done with you. Whatever your agenda, if you can't discuss it like an intelligent adult who believes what they say, then you've lost a lot of credibility here.
Isolationism is a thorny issue - especially in these $ucky financial times: It's certainly attractive on many levels. However, I honestly think that if we turn our backs on the rest of the planet, it'll come back to bite us BIG TIME at some point.
Isolationism means something very different today, with the internet and nuclear bombs, than it did even thirty years ago.
No hypocrisy here, Slow. You have zero respect from me, so I don't treat you with any big effort toward respect.
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When you complain about something YOU do, you're a hypocrite.
Deal with that.
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What complaint?
See? There you go with the ad-hominem attacks
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You call me a plant or a bigot, then accuse me of ad-hominem attacks?
Nice hypocrisy there, Lew.
Sheesh.
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Your intellectual cowardice is what indicts you, slow. You don't debate, you spew hatred. Logically, you are either a plant with an anti-Israeli agenda or a bigot.
I logically arrive at that conclusion because the obvious result of our nation adopting your stance (withdrawing all support for Israel) is the rapid and complete eradication of Israel and the Jews living in their UN-mandated homeland.
Are you going to say that if the US did NOT support Israel they'd be OK anyway????
Just wondering...
Follow your statements through to the end. What do YOU think will happen in the Middle East if in fact our country does as you propose?
Either you can't see that obvious outcome (in which case you really deserve your handle), or you WANT that to happen - in which case you're either a plant or a bigot.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
Just to be clear: We're not talking about "every bees nest" here, just one in particular. IMHO each "bees nest" needs to be separately debated and decided on its own merits, so let's not confuse the issue at hand - OK?
Isolationism is a very difficult issue, with few clear positive strategies for our country. But I personally feel that we are the sole remaining superpower on the planet, so we therefore inherit a certain "noblesse oblige" - the "obligation of the nobility".
I maintain that completely withdrawing all US support for Israel today would have horrifying consequences for us as a nation.
Fanatic Muslims have clearly said, repeatedly, that they will not rest or put down their arms until ALL "infidels" (anyone who does not worship as they do) are exterminated.
I believe that in this hypothetical scenario, after eradicating the Jews and Israel, the fundamentalist Muslims would turn their attention to US.
Anyway, and with no rancor, happy Thanksgiving to you & yours.
I see - because I disagree with you, you think I'm evil.
Grow up.
I don't support Israel because they don't DESERVE our support. They have never once acted as our ally.
Withdraw ALL presence in the Middle East, and let it implode. Israel is not our problem.
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Slow, Thank you for so clearly embodying my points.
1) I never used the word "evil".
----- Strawman tactic.
2) "Grow up".
----- Unfounded personal attack, playground tactic.
3) "Withdraw ALL presence in the Middle East, and let it implode".
----- Short sighted, to say the least.
Answer this simple question, coward: What would happen after (or maybe DURING) the destruction of Israel and the eradication of the Jewish state?
BTW - I call you a coward because you continually duck my tough questions. It's not an ad-hominem attack, it is an honest, personal appraisal of your tactics in virtual conversations. Feel free to disprove said appraisal...
Hope you live in peace in your world, slow.
I'm done with you.
Does that mean that they have run out ?
Mad rush in Iran and the US to resupply them, and then here we go again .....
Although both nations claim victory, there are no winners only losers, especially those who have lost their loved ones. On this scenario, real victory could only occur when both nations are able to overcome hatred and start loving one another. But that would require much humility, strength and resolve... or perhaps a new religious doctrine for both.
Dollars for peace, or savings for genocide and mushroom clouds?
Don't get me wrong, wish we didn't have to, but it seems the lesser of two evils to me.
The price of being the only remaining superpower, methinks.
Hamas says it has won the conflict. And peace will exist forever...
Who are we kidding? Hamas is a terrorist organization that has sacrificed hundreds of Palestinians for a truce that it will not honor anyways.
Even more terrifying, Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas left his people in harm's way while he was dined and entertained away from the fighting by the Egyptian leader of the Muslim brotherhood.
And to add more terror, these terrorist organizations think wrongly that time is on their side and in that in ten years time the billion peaceful Muslims will destroy their future to follow Hamas and other terrorist organizations in a mad jihad.
If the truce ends Haniyeh, you will not escape the wrath of God.