As an American that has lived in Thailand for a long time I can explain to the American people what the real situation is behind Joe Gordons imprisonment.
First and foremost I can honestly tell you that foriegners that live here, espeically Americans don't care about the Thai king one way or another. There simply is nothing to talk about as it regards to him or his family. He has been in the hospital for two years and after he appeared on tv a few days ago for his birthday in a very frail state of health most foreginers feel bad for him. All of this Thai government talk about expats speaking bad about him are lies. The fact is the Thai government is about to shut down Facebook and Twitter here because it is THAIS that are berating the King of Thailand.
Second Joe Gordon is an American citizen. He lived in the USA for 40+ years, carries an American passport and was a car salesmen in Colorado. He lived in the USA when he posted on his blog copies of a banned book in Thailand about the king. Yes believe it or not they ban books here (including heavy internet censorship by a Thai government body called the MICT). The Thai government has a group within their government that spies on Internet activity and when they came across his blog (a rather insignificant one I might add) they threatened him and his family in Thailand. His family was afraid for their life (believe me you can pay 10,000 THB (about $300 USD) to have someone killed here) and he came to see them as a result. The Thai government knew he would come because family is so important here. They lured him here, watched him for a few days and then arrested him in his families rural home. He has been barefoot, shackled and treated in humanely since his imprisonment six months ago. Obama was in Bali a few weeks ago and said and did nothing to help this AMERICAN citizen to be released. The US Ambassador here rather than taking direct and expedient action to have him released only had a Twitter discussion about it.
Joe Gordon was born in Thailand and knew anything regarding this banned book was taboo. But he lives in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and he exercised his right to free speech. Joe Gordon was LURED back to Thailand because his family was threatened. Would any of you do any different if you knew your family would be killed?
In our nation (USA) we never leave a man behind. The fact that Joe Gordon is a THAI-American is irrelevant. He is a prisoner. He needs to be released. Men like John McCain and Lt. John Goodman (Syria in the 1980's) understands what is is to be a prisoner. Write your Senator and your Congressmen to ask our President and the US Ambasador to Thailand Kristine Kenney to work hard to have this American released.
As an American that has lived in Thailand for a long time I can explain to the American people what the real situation is behind Joe Gordons imprisonment.
First and foremost I can honestly tell you that foriegners that live here, espeically Americans don't care about the Thai king one way or another. There simply is nothing to talk about as it regards to him or his family. He has been in the hospital for two years and after he appeared on tv a few days ago for his birthday in a very frail state of health most foreginers feel bad for him. All of this Thai government talk about expats speaking bad about him are lies. The fact is the Thai government is about to shut down Facebook and Twitter here because it is THAIS that are berating the King of Thailand.
Second Joe Gordon is an American citizen. He lived in the USA for 40+ years, carries an American passport and was a car salesmen in Colorado. He lived in the USA when he posted on his blog copies of a banned book in Thailand about the king. Yes believe it or not they ban books here (including heavy internet censorship by a Thai government body called the MICT). The Thai government has a group within their government that spies on Internet activity and when they came across his blog (a rather insignificant one I might add) they threatened him and his family in Thailand. His family was afraid for their life (believe me you can pay 10,000 THB (about $300 USD) to have someone killed here) and he came to see them as a result. The Thai government knew he would come because family is so important here. They lured him here, watched him for a few days and then arrested him in his families rural home. He has been barefoot, shackled and treated in humanely since his imprisonment six months ago. Obama was in Bali a few weeks ago and said and did nothing to help this AMERICAN citizen to be released. The US Ambassador here rather than taking direct and expedient action to have him released only had a Twitter discussion about it.
Joe Gordon was born in Thailand and knew anything regarding this banned book was taboo. But he lives in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and he exercised his right to free speech. Joe Gordon was LURED back to Thailand because his family was threatened. Would any of you do any different if you knew your family would be killed?
In our nation (USA) we never leave a man behind. The fact that Joe Gordon is a THAI-American is irrelevant. He is a prisoner. He needs to be released. Men like John McCain and Lt. John Goodman (Syria in the 1980's) understands what is is to be a prisoner. Write your Senator and your Congressmen to ask our President and the US Ambasador to Thailand Kristine Kenney to work hard to have this American released.
BWB2020 does not do their side much good by acting so archly. And saying they would provide "facts" from their own viewpoint all but condemned thei claims to suspect nature. Just because they have business contacts in another country doesn't automatically make them "reliable" and "trustworthy", not for many in the U.S.!
If the uprising in Thailand was caused by the army, why was the army shooting at the Red Shirts? The Red Shirts were the ones who had to build barricades to defend themselves. They were the ones who commandeered a fire engine and turned it into a fountain. And they were the ones the majority of comments were condemning as enemies of freedom! It was the army that was supporting the disliked monarchy. BWB2020 can try to change perceptions, but it was all there.
This individual posted something that is illegal in Thailand -- then traveled there. It was not a smart decision on his part, and the US does not control the Thai laws. The king is revered in Thailand, so this individual made a bad decision and must live with it.
he muted U.S. response may be partly explained by an unwillingness to spoil efforts to secure a royal pardon for Gordon, as has happened for foreigners previously convicted of lese majeste.
Of course the newt would just talk tough and they would send him back with eggrolls and rice.
Another demonstration of the U.S. principle of willingly swlling out citizens to promote political forces that favor "American interests", which, translated, means "corporate interests". Compare the article to the incident of Michael Fay being detained in Singapore, but he only committed sinple vandalism. This is a case of someone using ideas to attack the rights of illegitimate government. Remember, too, that, in the European Union, it's possible to be imprisoned for just questioning the validity of the "official story" of the "Holocaust". Thought control on the march, aided and abetted by the United States and New World Order High Command.
And don't think there are so many differences between this and the case of Anwar al-Awlaki. Quislings for the New World Order say Awlaki was a "terrorist", as if just the title makes someone suddenly not human and worthy to be treated like any inanimate obstacle, to be blown out of the way! So easy for them to say, for the benefit of the drooling, dull-witted devotees of the NWO, that Awaki "only lived to kill Americans". In fact, in so many cases, "terrorists" are stateless individuals, people without a govenment tal structure that works to protect their rights, taking up arms to enforce redress of legitimate grievances and stop the malignant machinations of corruipt govenrmental forces. That this seems eminent is due to the fact that most if not all governmental structures on the planet troday are corrupt, collections of craven, conniving criminals who act only for their and their friends' profit and will work to keep anyone with genuine honor from entering. All governmental perations are now only to make the corporate rich richer and all the elections are rigged! This is why they see as ";legitimate" avctions only by other governmental structures. If a government ordered actions such as al-Awlaki was accused of, they would be condemned, but there would be no reprisal such as in his case. Because, "Good" or "bad", every government sees every other government as "a crook they can work with"! They have long since stocked governments in every country with quislings and thugs who can be bribed, blackmailed or both. That is the essence of governance on the planet today! This is why they hate movements like Occupy for having no leaders and no platform! As soon as a leadership is set up, charismatic back-stabbers will be infitrated in, and compromised "elections" held, putting their puppets in power. And they will draft platforms designed to provide wiggle room for corporate crooks to avoid being made to act decently!
And another point is worth keeping in mind.
As the article states, there was a popular uprising in Thailand against the junta now being used to keep the king propped up against evident massive violation of human rights. It occurred around the same time as the Iranian uprisings, but response on corporate owned "news" blogs was decidedly different! Where som many championed Iran as "the voice of liberty", most condemned the Thai dissident as "filthy animals who should be crushed". The leader of the Thai "Red Shirt" movement was out of the country for awhile, and depicted as "a coward who left his people to die for him"; the leader of the Iranian movement never left his manioned estate, but was praised as a hero of freedom. Tens of thousands of Iranians, a miniscule fraction against tyhe total population, filled Tehran, compared with the larger fraction of the population in Bangkok, but it was the Thais who were accused of "trying to force a government approved of by only a section of the population on the entire population". Iranians clogged streets, preventing everyday commuting, as did the Thais, but the "Red Shirts" were condemned for "preventing people from getting on with their everyday lives". Iranians burned buses, broke store windows and clashed with police, Thais set up barricades of tires in the streets, commandeered a fire engine and turned it into a fountain and clashed wityh police and it was the Thais represented as "law breakers". One girl was supposedly "shot" by someone whose identity was never identified, even though the film of her has her mugging for the camera, and right wing supporters of the NWO called her "a martyr"; As many as five Thais were killed in one attack by the military, and the NWO shills said effectively it was a pity more weren't slaughtered!
Hypocrisy, the principle of "Anything I do is right, everything you do is wrong", is a fundamental tool of the craven and conniving, which means it is a crucial part of New World Order operations. And any who facilitate it, support it or don't expose it are acting as quislings for the New World ORder's attempted enslavement of humanity.
The US starts wars around the world and kills many thousands of people every year in them. Who are they to judge? Setting up puppet governments and protecting drug growing war lords isn't fighting for freedom. Thailand is just fine, stop your hypocritical whining.
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First and foremost I can honestly tell you that foriegners that live here, espeically Americans don't care about the Thai king one way or another. There simply is nothing to talk about as it regards to him or his family. He has been in the hospital for two years and after he appeared on tv a few days ago for his birthday in a very frail state of health most foreginers feel bad for him. All of this Thai government talk about expats speaking bad about him are lies. The fact is the Thai government is about to shut down Facebook and Twitter here because it is THAIS that are berating the King of Thailand.
Second Joe Gordon is an American citizen. He lived in the USA for 40+ years, carries an American passport and was a car salesmen in Colorado. He lived in the USA when he posted on his blog copies of a banned book in Thailand about the king. Yes believe it or not they ban books here (including heavy internet censorship by a Thai government body called the MICT). The Thai government has a group within their government that spies on Internet activity and when they came across his blog (a rather insignificant one I might add) they threatened him and his family in Thailand. His family was afraid for their life (believe me you can pay 10,000 THB (about $300 USD) to have someone killed here) and he came to see them as a result. The Thai government knew he would come because family is so important here. They lured him here, watched him for a few days and then arrested him in his families rural home. He has been barefoot, shackled and treated in humanely since his imprisonment six months ago. Obama was in Bali a few weeks ago and said and did nothing to help this AMERICAN citizen to be released. The US Ambassador here rather than taking direct and expedient action to have him released only had a Twitter discussion about it.
Joe Gordon was born in Thailand and knew anything regarding this banned book was taboo. But he lives in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and he exercised his right to free speech. Joe Gordon was LURED back to Thailand because his family was threatened. Would any of you do any different if you knew your family would be killed?
In our nation (USA) we never leave a man behind. The fact that Joe Gordon is a THAI-American is irrelevant. He is a prisoner. He needs to be released. Men like John McCain and Lt. John Goodman (Syria in the 1980's) understands what is is to be a prisoner. Write your Senator and your Congressmen to ask our President and the US Ambasador to Thailand Kristine Kenney to work hard to have this American released.
First and foremost I can honestly tell you that foriegners that live here, espeically Americans don't care about the Thai king one way or another. There simply is nothing to talk about as it regards to him or his family. He has been in the hospital for two years and after he appeared on tv a few days ago for his birthday in a very frail state of health most foreginers feel bad for him. All of this Thai government talk about expats speaking bad about him are lies. The fact is the Thai government is about to shut down Facebook and Twitter here because it is THAIS that are berating the King of Thailand.
Second Joe Gordon is an American citizen. He lived in the USA for 40+ years, carries an American passport and was a car salesmen in Colorado. He lived in the USA when he posted on his blog copies of a banned book in Thailand about the king. Yes believe it or not they ban books here (including heavy internet censorship by a Thai government body called the MICT). The Thai government has a group within their government that spies on Internet activity and when they came across his blog (a rather insignificant one I might add) they threatened him and his family in Thailand. His family was afraid for their life (believe me you can pay 10,000 THB (about $300 USD) to have someone killed here) and he came to see them as a result. The Thai government knew he would come because family is so important here. They lured him here, watched him for a few days and then arrested him in his families rural home. He has been barefoot, shackled and treated in humanely since his imprisonment six months ago. Obama was in Bali a few weeks ago and said and did nothing to help this AMERICAN citizen to be released. The US Ambassador here rather than taking direct and expedient action to have him released only had a Twitter discussion about it.
Joe Gordon was born in Thailand and knew anything regarding this banned book was taboo. But he lives in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and he exercised his right to free speech. Joe Gordon was LURED back to Thailand because his family was threatened. Would any of you do any different if you knew your family would be killed?
In our nation (USA) we never leave a man behind. The fact that Joe Gordon is a THAI-American is irrelevant. He is a prisoner. He needs to be released. Men like John McCain and Lt. John Goodman (Syria in the 1980's) understands what is is to be a prisoner. Write your Senator and your Congressmen to ask our President and the US Ambasador to Thailand Kristine Kenney to work hard to have this American released.
If the uprising in Thailand was caused by the army, why was the army shooting at the Red Shirts? The Red Shirts were the ones who had to build barricades to defend themselves. They were the ones who commandeered a fire engine and turned it into a fountain. And they were the ones the majority of comments were condemning as enemies of freedom! It was the army that was supporting the disliked monarchy. BWB2020 can try to change perceptions, but it was all there.
We should just arrest one of their key leaders kids who are here at school fr spying, then cut a deal.
Two years and a half ain't that bad. The Thai food is internationally famous. And he will probably get to serve even less time for good behavior.
Of course the newt would just talk tough and they would send him back with eggrolls and rice.
And don't think there are so many differences between this and the case of Anwar al-Awlaki. Quislings for the New World Order say Awlaki was a "terrorist", as if just the title makes someone suddenly not human and worthy to be treated like any inanimate obstacle, to be blown out of the way! So easy for them to say, for the benefit of the drooling, dull-witted devotees of the NWO, that Awaki "only lived to kill Americans". In fact, in so many cases, "terrorists" are stateless individuals, people without a govenment tal structure that works to protect their rights, taking up arms to enforce redress of legitimate grievances and stop the malignant machinations of corruipt govenrmental forces. That this seems eminent is due to the fact that most if not all governmental structures on the planet troday are corrupt, collections of craven, conniving criminals who act only for their and their friends' profit and will work to keep anyone with genuine honor from entering. All governmental perations are now only to make the corporate rich richer and all the elections are rigged! This is why they see as ";legitimate" avctions only by other governmental structures. If a government ordered actions such as al-Awlaki was accused of, they would be condemned, but there would be no reprisal such as in his case. Because, "Good" or "bad", every government sees every other government as "a crook they can work with"! They have long since stocked governments in every country with quislings and thugs who can be bribed, blackmailed or both. That is the essence of governance on the planet today! This is why they hate movements like Occupy for having no leaders and no platform! As soon as a leadership is set up, charismatic back-stabbers will be infitrated in, and compromised "elections" held, putting their puppets in power. And they will draft platforms designed to provide wiggle room for corporate crooks to avoid being made to act decently!
And another point is worth keeping in mind.
As the article states, there was a popular uprising in Thailand against the junta now being used to keep the king propped up against evident massive violation of human rights. It occurred around the same time as the Iranian uprisings, but response on corporate owned "news" blogs was decidedly different! Where som many championed Iran as "the voice of liberty", most condemned the Thai dissident as "filthy animals who should be crushed". The leader of the Thai "Red Shirt" movement was out of the country for awhile, and depicted as "a coward who left his people to die for him"; the leader of the Iranian movement never left his manioned estate, but was praised as a hero of freedom. Tens of thousands of Iranians, a miniscule fraction against tyhe total population, filled Tehran, compared with the larger fraction of the population in Bangkok, but it was the Thais who were accused of "trying to force a government approved of by only a section of the population on the entire population". Iranians clogged streets, preventing everyday commuting, as did the Thais, but the "Red Shirts" were condemned for "preventing people from getting on with their everyday lives". Iranians burned buses, broke store windows and clashed with police, Thais set up barricades of tires in the streets, commandeered a fire engine and turned it into a fountain and clashed wityh police and it was the Thais represented as "law breakers". One girl was supposedly "shot" by someone whose identity was never identified, even though the film of her has her mugging for the camera, and right wing supporters of the NWO called her "a martyr"; As many as five Thais were killed in one attack by the military, and the NWO shills said effectively it was a pity more weren't slaughtered!
Hypocrisy, the principle of "Anything I do is right, everything you do is wrong", is a fundamental tool of the craven and conniving, which means it is a crucial part of New World Order operations. And any who facilitate it, support it or don't expose it are acting as quislings for the New World ORder's attempted enslavement of humanity.