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Idahoan, 23, Captured in Afghanistan, Was Revealed in Video Released by Insurgents
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- Whats the matter Solarrays - afraid yo blew your cover as a terrorist sypathizer ?
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- underdogus09 - what happened first, Gitmo detainees or 9/11 ?
And, I'd SURE like to see a source on the death of the detainee that said "Harsh interrogation" was conclusively the cause of death.
You are but a terrorist sympathizer ! - Reply to this comment
- Enough is enough! How long are we going to be pushed around by these barbarians? It is time to take off the gloves and deal with the Taliban their terms. There comes a time when, to protect our way of life, we must fight in the ways of our enemy.....the time has come.
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- I was fifth generation Republican - Solarrays
Sure, and I taught FDR all he knew.
You are a lying sack of liberal.
Try staying on topic, and let history judge past Presidents, Liberal. - Reply to this comment
- Solarrays247 - you have a very warped sense of logic.
Time for a history lesson, idiot.
Who has been sawing heads off for the last 8 years.
"The worst attack on civilians came in summer of 1998 when the Taliban swept north from Herat to the predominantly Hazara and Uzbek city of Mazar-i-Sharif, the largest city in the north. Entering at 10 am on 8 August 1998, for the next two days the Taliban drove their pickup trucks "up and down the narrow streets of Mazar-i-Sharif shooting to the left and right and killing everything that moved ? shop owners, cart pullers, women and children shoppers and even goats and donkeys."[69] More than 8000 noncombatants were reported killed in Mazar-i-Sharif and later in Bamiyan.[70] Contrary to the injunctions of Islam, which demands immediate burial, the Taliban forbade anyone to bury the corpses for the first six days while they rotted in the summer heat and were eaten by dogs"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Ethnic_massacres_and_persecution
So, don't EVEN equate waterboarding KNOWN Terrorists with this sort of morality.
It just shows that you are a reactionary LIBERAL that got us into the Barry situation. - Reply to this comment
- Where is Jane Fonda when we need her? She did SO much for the Vietnam POWs.
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- I am so sorry that this happened. I am sad each time it does.
Also, knowing that this brave young man will probably get the
same harsh treatment America has put upon its P.O.W.s is horrible.
So far, it seems as though he is alright. I can only pray it stays
that way. I truly hope his captors will prove themselves the better
person and not behave shamefully as in the past, and certainly not
as shameful as the U.S. has. As the supposed leader of the free world,
we should have been setting appropriate standards from the get go.
Besides that, we really shouldn't even be over there. What they do to each other is their own business, and certainly no worse than what
the U.S.A. does to its own people; even though our government is more subtle in its heinous crimes.
Right now, we are not under attack, so get out of those countries. Life is one big risk, we're all going to die someday, and when our number is up, no amount of armed forces or anyone will have anything to do to stop it.
America, bring that man home, NOW. - Reply to this comment
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- libbiemom, I believe there is an opening for Tokio Rose's position in the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Oh, I guess I'm wrong - you have already accepted the job.
What, no music ?
That's right, it's against the Taliban's rules.
And, by the way, if he receives the "same harsh treatment America has put upon its P.O.W.s ", then everything will turn out all right in the long run for him.
But, somehow, I doubt it.
Freekin liberal.
- libbiemom, I believe there is an opening for Tokio Rose's position in the mountains between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
- Thank you, PowWarrior.
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- I was fifth generation Republican.....what about you? This is about Bush! Bush wrote this letter....I don't see Kerry's or Clinton's signature to this letter. Do you? Can you keep to the subject at hand? Or does the truth hurt too much? We can discuss Kerry and Clinton on the appropriate board.
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- This soldier is now a POW he is in a status of missing-captured. One of the Pentagon's dirty little secrets, they are attempting to incorporate the true meaning of "the fog of war" by playing word games for political cover. Because we are not at war, declared by Congress, NONE of our troops fit the legal definition of a POW and therefore do not have the protection of the Geneva Convention.
For all extensive purposes, this soldier is on his own. Sure, his family is being told they are doing everything they can and that they have all available man power working to find him and brgin him home. They still today say the same things to those still unaccounted for from Vietnam. Duplicity is the word of the day. The DoD will just keep spinning their propoganda until America's short attention span kicks in and will not even remember this kid's name 10 days from now. - Reply to this comment
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- ok - if this is so, then WHY have you liberals been arguing that Gitmo people have had their rights "violated".
Feel like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth ?
It sure looks like it.
Now, back to reality.
PowWarrior, your definition of "war" is self serving, and assumes, like libs have tried to in the past, that to be "war" it must exist between two states (and not the US against a political groups such as terrorists) and must be declared.
So let's take a look at an unbias definition: Source :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War
"War is a reciprocated, armed conflict, between two or more non-congruous entities, aimed at reorganising a subjectively designed, geo-politically desired result."
Does the current issue meet that definition. It certainly does.
So your above logic falls apart on claiming that Congress didn't declare war and therefore he is not covered.
Now, if you were to say that the taliban had not signed the Geneva Conventions and therefore wasn't obligated to its terms, you might have a point.
But let's not compare waterboarding, a technique which leaves the victim alive and well, with past Taliban and Al Qaeda (which grew out of OBL's being a guest of the Taliban) techniques, such as sawing the head off of healthy conscious individuals on TV.
This soldier is only on his own when looked at by terrorist sympathizers like you. I assure you, every service person in Afghanstan is doing their part to find him.
You and Solarray - stuff your propaganda where the sun doesn't shine.
- ok - if this is so, then WHY have you liberals been arguing that Gitmo people have had their rights "violated".
- Well, guess your messiah is making up for all those horrible, horrible deeds. \
Today, in Chicago, hometown of your messiah, oh wait, did I say "hometown"?? My bad, we don't really know where his hometown is, do we? No matter.
So, as I was saying, today, for the first time on American soil a conference is being held at the Oaklawn Hilton for a "Rise of Islam" conference. Are you going??
It is being run by hizh ut-tahri, a real sweet guy who runs recruiting for islamic groups.
As for statements, remember, Congress knew, no matter what lie queen nance comes up with, they knew. Tell us, when was the last time we lobe off a head?? - Reply to this comment
- And where was the courageous clinton during those years?? He was at Oxford, not getting a degree and protesting the war.
The noble kerry who served for exactly 3 months with his camera putting himself in for a medal. What a jerk you are, what a total jerk. Look to your own party. - Reply to this comment
- Keeping you in my constant thoughts, Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl. May you be released quickly and without harm.
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- Forget to take your meds today, brilliant one? Or have you already had one too many beers?
No one on this board deserves the junk you are spilling. You should quit before everyone realizes what an idiot you are. You used to make sense.....don't know what your problem is, but you should go lay down for awhile.
- Forget to take your meds today, brilliant one? Or have you already had one too many beers?
- are you KIDDING me?? you think a nice be-heading on camera and showing it to the world is the proper method of handling our soldiers? do your homework before posting such uneducated bs.
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- Remember Waterboarding?
Harsh interrogation techniques authorized by top officials of the CIA have led to questionable confessions and the death of a detainee since the techniques were first authorized in mid-March 2002, "They would not let you rest, day or night. Stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. Don't sleep. Don't lie on the floor, one prisoner said through a translator. The detainees were also forced to listen to rap artist Eminem's "Slim Shady" album. The music was so foreign to them it made them frantic... - Reply to this comment
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- Well, guess your messiah is making up for all those horrible, horrible deeds. \
Today, in Chicago, hometown of your messiah, oh wait, did I say "hometown"?? My bad, we don't really know where his hometown is, do we? No matter.
So, as I was saying, today, for the first time on American soil a conference is being held at the Oaklawn Hilton for a "Rise of Islam" conference. Are you going??
It is being run by hizh ut-tahri, a real sweet guy who runs recruiting for islamic groups.
As for statements, remember, Congress knew, no matter what lie queen nance comes up with, they knew. Tell us, when was the last time we lobe off a head??
- Well, guess your messiah is making up for all those horrible, horrible deeds. \
- ".....America owes these courageous men and women a debt of gratitude, and I am honored to be the commander in chief of the greatest force for freedom in the history of the world.
Best Wishes.
Sincerely,
George W. Bush"
You might be "honored" Bush, but you never deserved that honor! Not when you did not see fit to serve honorably yourself, but rather allowed other men to serve in Vietnam...in your place....while you were too busy playing AWOL in order to help with a political campaign! - Reply to this comment
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- And where was the courageous clinton during those years?? He was at Oxford, not getting a degree and protesting the war.
The noble kerry who served for exactly 3 months with his camera putting himself in for a medal. What a jerk you are, what a total jerk. Look to your own party.
- I was fifth generation Republican.....what about you? This is about Bush! Bush wrote this letter....I don't see Kerry's or Clinton's signature to this letter. Do you? Can you keep to the subject at hand? Or does the truth hurt too much? We can discuss Kerry and Clinton on the appropriate board.
- I was fifth generation Republican - Solarrays
Sure, and I taught FDR all he knew.
You are a lying sack of liberal.
Try staying on topic, and let history judge past Presidents, Liberal.
- speakinup22 July 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
You seem to be having a good time today! Insulting everyone on the board.....make you feel better? Guess what, guy? This isn't about you....or are you one of those right wingers who preach war....but then sit your fat ass behind a keyboard?
You owe everyone else on this board an apology....but we won't hold our breath. We know all too well what you are about.....as do our military who are serving in Bush's "war."
- by speakinup22 July 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
You are a lying sack of liberal.
Try staying on topic, and let history judge past Presidents, Liberal.
Actually, I was on topic, Mr. Congeniality. My statement was made to another post that has since been removed from this board. In fact, there have been quite a few posts removed from this board. Keep spreading the joy!
- And where was the courageous clinton during those years?? He was at Oxford, not getting a degree and protesting the war.
- In your dreams, npkppprc. More than likely the Taliban would employ Bush/Cheney's methods of torture since those methods, (in Cheney's own words for all the world to hear), have proven to be so effective for eight plus years, yes? :=)
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- One can only hope that they don't mistreat him like the way Americans mistreat people they kidnap.
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- are you KIDDING me?? you think a nice be-heading on camera and showing it to the world is the proper method of handling our soldiers? do your homework before posting such uneducated bs.
- One can only hope that they don't mistreat him like the way Americans mistreat people they kidnap.
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It sounds like you HOPE they will "mistreat" him because you hate the USA so much.
- Obama, how do you think they will treat him as a POW? Probably will use professionals for interviews and pat him on the head like you want to treat our terrorist. We pray they won't harm him because diplomacy probably will not work with people who hate all Americans. Who is going to protect the soldiers rights?
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- In your dreams, npkppprc. More than likely the Taliban would employ Bush/Cheney's methods of torture since those methods, (in Cheney's own words for all the world to hear), have proven to be so effective for eight plus years, yes? :=)
- Solarrays247 - you have a very warped sense of logic.
Time for a history lesson, idiot.
Who has been sawing heads off for the last 8 years.
"The worst attack on civilians came in summer of 1998 when the Taliban swept north from Herat to the predominantly Hazara and Uzbek city of Mazar-i-Sharif, the largest city in the north. Entering at 10 am on 8 August 1998, for the next two days the Taliban drove their pickup trucks "up and down the narrow streets of Mazar-i-Sharif shooting to the left and right and killing everything that moved ? shop owners, cart pullers, women and children shoppers and even goats and donkeys."[69] More than 8000 noncombatants were reported killed in Mazar-i-Sharif and later in Bamiyan.[70] Contrary to the injunctions of Islam, which demands immediate burial, the Taliban forbade anyone to bury the corpses for the first six days while they rotted in the summer heat and were eaten by dogs"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Ethnic_massacres_and_persecution
So, don't EVEN equate waterboarding KNOWN Terrorists with this sort of morality.
It just shows that you are a reactionary LIBERAL that got us into the Barry situation.
- by speakinup22 July 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT
You are not good enough to teach me a damn thing! You are a hateful, angry little man making big behind your keyboard!
I am an Independent, ex-Republican....and proud of it! I am beholding to no party, no person, my country comes first! Why don't you try it?
The truth, less inane rhetoric, will set you free!
- And your purpose in posting this is....what? That we, the USA should succumb to those who don't follow Geneva Conventions? That we, the USA, should engage in criminal behavior that was codified by the civilized world as...criminal? What is the purpose of this post?
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