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- You noticed?
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- Sorry brianwb-2009, but you are a fool.
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- WayAround is repeating himself.
As I've been saying for a ***long*** time, Chavez, Ahmadinejad (the President and current troublemaker in Iran), and Sarkozy are the Interntional Mafia's favorite puppets on the world stage. - Reply to this comment
- Take the "Iran Protests" script, make a few changes, and...Voila!...we have the "Honduras Protests" script.
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- So...what happens when Chavez and his goons start a military campaign to put this jerk back in office?
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- I have the pleasure to invite you to Honduras,and show in your words how democrat you are..? no nuts¿
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- Obama is very liberal, and has no integrity.
The liberal media won't embarrass him.
Too bad! We have the internet and conservative media. And the power of the deceptive liberal media dwindles... - Reply to this comment
- This is an Opportunity for us to support Hondura and take out Commi Chavez that live next door to us, one of this day it will be a dangerous like CUBA.
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- While BO staggers around while N Korea & Iran are killing off their Political Opposition, Obama, Chavez, & the Liberal OAS have United to put a dagger in the back of Our Little, Weak, Neighbor Honduras.
BO, Our Brilliant SOS & OAS feel stronger & inspired aligning themselves up with Bully Hugo.
Mr Zelaya, a wealthy businessman, is a left-wing politician and supporter of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
His opponents, which includes the Supreme Court and a majority in Parliament, accuse him of seeking to prolong his rule.
He had wanted to hold a popular vote on convening a constitutional convention - a move that could have removed the current one-term limit for presidents. Its enough to make you puke. - Reply to this comment
- by Reality_Chk July 5, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
Impeached ??? Does the Honduran Constitution even use the word Impeached anywhere in it ??? If so, please quote the Honduran constitution on that...
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According to Article 239: "No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform [emphasis added], as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years."
Their Supreme Court ordered that he be removed from office. Their Congress put a successor in place in accordance with their Constitution. If that isn't an impeachment, I don't know what is. - Reply to this comment
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- Calling for a referendum to have the people vote on a non-binding constitutional assembly to consider changes to the Honduras constitution is not in ANY PROSECUTABLE WAY a proposal for reform to specifically change election terms. This proposal for reform when executed by a President would have to be in some recognizable context, as in "proposed legislation" or some document outside of willing the people to vote on a constitutional assembly to consider it. There has to be some execution and some support directly or indirectly of executing a direct proposal. The thought that you can accuse someone of doing something by asking for a referendum to vote (that's a popular vote OUTSIDE of the government) on the existence of a constutional assembly to further consider this is not a proposal of reform within any Constitutional limits. This would be like thought police outlawing free speech or the right to assemble.
The very ridiculous part is that he even used the language "non-binding" in proposing a referendum to consider a constitutional assembly to consider this. And of course he didn't even get that far. Having the Supreme Court make a decision on something that wasn't even assembled to decide doesn't even sound like due process, kidnapping and dragging a person out of office without convening a trial to prosecute definitely lacks due process, and is not like any impeachment hearing I can imagine.
The EXTREMELY ridiculous part, is that you would be attempting to outlaw ANY AND ALL REFERENDUMs by the people of Honduras -- the right to petition your government and assemble -- based on a presumption of what could possibly be the result of that referendum. You are also suggesting that there is NO WAY for the people of Honduras to change their Constitution accept through the legislative process -- no matter how corrupt and non-representative that may legally evolve. No healthy democracy would ever grant that much immunity to its government. Certainly not the U.S., until we let it happen.
- What I still can't get over, are the outrageous hypocrisies exhibited by people here in the U.S. It's like they don't even acknowledge a living archive of offenses to the U.S. Constitution and American people committed by George W. Bush not too long ago. And none of them any where near to an appeal to the American people to vote for consensus on ANY OF IT. To listen to these people pander on these issues is like stomach churning to say the least.
- Or what the ACTUAL articles of Impeachment for Bill Clinton were in the presidential office IMMEDIATELY preceding that of George W. Bush. To even begin to appreciate what a fascist appeal for an impeachment (that never happened) for a President who called for a non-binding referendum to NOT AMMEND or CHANGE the constituion of Honduras, but to create a constitutional assembly to adopt a new one. American first ammendment style.
Beyond reproach to say the least, what these people who have witnessed the ACTUAL IMPEACHMENT of Bill Clinton, followed IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER by the completely immune -- not to the Constitution, but to legal due process to excerise this under law -- (TAKEN OFF THE TABLE by decree only during the last quarter of this monster's days in office) reign and plague of George W. Bush, and now to be able to support a military coup for a president who was not impeached, who broke no law through the desire for referendum, either directly or indirectly ... absolutely disgusting in every democratic and rule of law sense.
- Calling for a referendum to have the people vote on a non-binding constitutional assembly to consider changes to the Honduras constitution is not in ANY PROSECUTABLE WAY a proposal for reform to specifically change election terms. This proposal for reform when executed by a President would have to be in some recognizable context, as in "proposed legislation" or some document outside of willing the people to vote on a constitutional assembly to consider it. There has to be some execution and some support directly or indirectly of executing a direct proposal. The thought that you can accuse someone of doing something by asking for a referendum to vote (that's a popular vote OUTSIDE of the government) on the existence of a constutional assembly to further consider this is not a proposal of reform within any Constitutional limits. This would be like thought police outlawing free speech or the right to assemble.
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