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100 Protesters Injured; Police Arrest Wounded In Hospitals; Gov't Condemns Nations Questioning Ahmadinejad Victory
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- Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio - Reply to this comment
- So answer your own question for us.
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- Too bad the old "Shah of Iran" is dead. Can we put him back into power anyway?
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- If Americans had the balls to rise up and protest against anything (e.g. financial corruption, unjust wars, etc.) in a mannner similar to the protesters in Iran, "homeland security" would put down the protesters in a similar fashion.
(Kent State, anybody?) - Reply to this comment
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- Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio
- Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
- What makes you think that Iranian elections were rigged ? I believe AhmedNejad won the clear majority, and even agreed to the recount.
AhmedNejad has done good work in the remote areas of Iran, and people were happy with his performance there - where the main population of Iran resides. Only the youth supports the new candidate because of his liberal and western views. West would like to see AhmedNejad go because he is the only one in the middle east who stands against and defy west, especially Israel.
I am in favor of peaceful demonstration, but any protests that involves law and order situation such destruction of property etc must be met with police enforcement. Imagine, what would US government do if supporters of John McCain refuse to accept the presidential election, and violate law.
Let's all think outside of box! - Reply to this comment
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- "What makes you think that Iranian elections were rigged ?"
EXACTLY !!!
As I previously wrote, only one sentence--"the elections were not fair"--uttered nobody knows where by nobody knows whom started this whole mess.
However, the idiots (and there are many evident in the discussions on CBS) get sucked in by the propaganda.
- "What makes you think that Iranian elections were rigged ?"
- Iran, Revolution on the Revolution
30 years after the Islamic Revolution in Iran another revolution taking a place. The ?Ayatollah? regime in Iran has expired its legitimacy, and peoples, mostly younger generations has acquired and demanded a new Iranian way of life suites the current time and conditions. Iranian Facebook and Twitter generation are demanding democracy and freedom.
Where is the international community, and what are we waiting for to show some real support, not just weak concerns statements?
I guess I have two messages today; one for President Barack Obama, that is that now it?s not a time to stand and watch quietly, you got to take a firm stand and send a strong message, not only to Iran, but to other repressive nations in the region that are watching and looking closely to the World reaction - with concern that ?Winds of Change? might hit them and they might be next.
My second message is to the ?courageous? Iranian people; do not stop, and keep on claiming your rights in your democracy. Freedom isn?t free and it?s yours to claim it.
Iran, Revolution on the Revolution - http://bit.ly/9e1q2 #ireport - Reply to this comment
- EXCELLENT observations !
Wake up moderates. Elections have consequences !
How is that 'hope and change' working out for ya'll ? - Reply to this comment
- Maybe a few - but I doubt any shots would be fired. Kent state was a one time lesson for us. The government in Iran has no intention of listening to the rest of the world (sans US) tell them shooting their people protesting is wrong.
Meanwhile barry is probably getting ready for another night on the town. - Reply to this comment
- In case you are just a mite bit slow on our revolution. Most of our descent happened in Boston and not in the country side.
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- So much for being the free world's leader.
But hey ! Now, were are the good guys !
Wait a minute - don't they finish last ? - Reply to this comment
- uh whitemale08 (like that is an acurate description, given your 'command' of english.), do you get the feeling from the response to your rant that you are a very small minority ?
If not, make sure you go back on your meds. - Reply to this comment
- The events in Iran are a big surprise to nobody but perhaps the useful fools in the U.S. left (Nancy Pelosi being their Chief Operating Officer and Michael Moorer their Chief Marketing Officer) who still believe in the innate goodness that is at the core of those who hate the U.S. These brilliant Democrat demagogues have extrapolated from the current state of affairs that the U.S. must somehow be responsible for the hatred against us, obviating the fact that dictatorships such the Ayatollah's, Castro's and Chavez' (democracy? Give me a break!!!) would like nothing more than the implosion of our way of life, so theirs can surge. These are regimes that will resort to any means to squelch the will of the people, killing, maiming and destroying lives at will... Their supreme command is not to be questioned!!!
I believe president Obama, for whom this presidency is basically an internship wherein he may learn the ropes of U.S. foreign affairs either wants to be in a warm embrace with these murderous dictators because he likes the way they have subdued their population and would like to emulate it or he is just an absolute dreamer with grandiose albeit foolish ideas. Given his Harvard degree, the answer to my quandary is just a smidgen on the side of frightening, regardless of the answer. - Reply to this comment
- I wonder how many would be injured if that same crowd was outside the White House?
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- Maybe a few - but I doubt any shots would be fired. Kent state was a one time lesson for us. The government in Iran has no intention of listening to the rest of the world (sans US) tell them shooting their people protesting is wrong.
Meanwhile barry is probably getting ready for another night on the town.
- Maybe a few - but I doubt any shots would be fired. Kent state was a one time lesson for us. The government in Iran has no intention of listening to the rest of the world (sans US) tell them shooting their people protesting is wrong.
- Followed this cluster f*** since Ahmadinejad's appointment for an additional term. A few thing I have taken away:
1. The protests are not so much against the Islamic "revolution" as against the the Guardian Council declaring Mahmoud Bush winner despite glaring irregularities. If there is any certainty in this world, it is there was fraud on a massive scale.
2. The protesters come from all walks of Iranian life. To say that the "Ah-man" had any kind of massive support among the poor invites skepticism to say the very least. He may have had a slight electoral plurality among the rural population but that was more than offset by the apparently commanding support Mousavi had in the cities.
3. Do not expect a pro-West government in Tehran no matter who ends up on the throne. All of the candidates, in addition, call for varying degrees of Israeli destruction. Even Mousavi has declared Israel has no business existing as a sovereign nation. This is not - repeat not - a call for returning Iran to the "western-style" democracy that supposedly existed (at least on paper, if not in reality) under the Shah.
4. Ahmadinejad's claims of western "interference" have no basis. I'm a born American and have lived here for over 60 years; I KNOW how much America can "interfere" when she really tries.
5. Human society is analogous to a mule. Push it too hard and it will buck and throw its rider. We've seen it before: Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Uganda, Pre-Communist Russia...and, again, post-Communist Russia. There is a reasonable chance we could see a systemic regieme change in Iran.
There is virtually no chance the ruling elite can cram Iranian society back into the box it was in before the elections. Khamenei's only chance of salvaging some of his power and influence is to reverse himself and try to work with Mousavi. The two share enough values in common that that's not such a far fetched suggestion. Just take off the ideological blinders.... - Reply to this comment
- There is something about a year that ends with "9"!!!!
1979
1) The Shah of Iran is kicked out and the Islamic "religious right" takes over and holds the people in the US Consulate captive. Jimmy "Peanut Farmer" Carter was clueless on what to do about it!
2) The worst recession since the oil embargo hits and again, Carter is clueless on how to handle it.
3) Ronnie "Bonzo" Reagan is elected President and brings in the era of neo-conservatism, "trickle-down" Reaganomics (what a joke!), Iran-Contra, Oliver North, and worst of all, Darth Vader Cheney!!!
1989
1) Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait and George HW Bush sleeps right thru it only waking up when he discovers Hussein is sitting on all that oil!!!
2) The worst recession since Jimmy Carter begins and, like Carter, HW Bush is clueless on how to handle it!
1999
1) The Soviet Union falls apart and the Iron Curtain rusts away all due to Eastern Europeans discovering they have POWER TO THE PEOPLE! The neocons, however, claim that St. Ronnie "Bonzo" Reagan deserves FULL credit for it!!!
2) The Fascist Nazi Supreme Court GIVES the Presidental election to "Horror of Horrors" George W. Bush who "blesses" us with 8 more years of neocon idiocy, record deficits, continual war, and worst of all Darth Vader Cheney!!! This despite the fact that Gore REALLY won the election!!!
3) HW Bush begins to push for NAFTA which will mean the beginning of the end for American jobs and the US economy!!!
2009
1) The "Great Emperor (& IDIOT!)" Bush II, together with his neocon Fascist Nazi Republican allies leaves us with the worst recession since 1929(!!!!) after giving billions of dollars away to Corporate America and handing our jobs an putting usin debt to Still-RED China FOREVER!!!!
2) The Iranian version of their "religious right" are packing their bags and getting ready to run to Pakistan because the Iranian people have discovered "POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!"!!
3) PENDING!!!
HAIL OBAMA??????? - Reply to this comment
- Apparently the dictatorship of the extremist that control Iran is accusing the US and Britain of interference in their internal affairs...
Don't you wish? The US hasn't done anything to interfere in the "free and fair" election Amadinijad clearly stole from his very own peoples. If Rowdy went down there, mabye they'd have a case...but we haven't been there since the hostages were illegally taken by the standards of international law. - Reply to this comment
- to ereHsdadhgaB
No, you just love the British Empire.
Look how you defend it and worship it, and believe everything it tells you.
Meanwhile, it has driven a nation of people who could feed their families off one income into a country of serfs; from working one 9-to-5 job with a decent salary and pension, to a couple living out-of-wedlock as roomates working 2 maybe even 3 temporary part-time jobs making sandwiches and pouring coffee.
No no no, you love the shafting and the raping by JP Morgan (a mostly owned British Bank), you love the looting by British bank Barclay's Capital in their counter-party scam to worthless derivatives and credit-default swaps @AIG....
YOU LOVE BIG BROTHEEEERRRRR!!!! - Reply to this comment
- All the,"protests", thus far are in Tehran.
Anyone?
I'm just sayin, it's a GINORMOUS country...
(it's like a revolution in the states, but they're only protesting in boston)
Teabagging optional... - Reply to this comment
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- In case you are just a mite bit slow on our revolution. Most of our descent happened in Boston and not in the country side.
- by ereHsdadhgaB-2009 June 21, 2009 6:05 AM PDT
Yeah, but our Kenyan-in-chief has no commitment with freedom and democracy overseas because he's planning to be a communist dictator himself and turn America into a banana Republic.
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Says CBS's Brazilian-in-chief, as he surveys his banana grove, outside of Sao Paulo.
"COMMIE, COMMIE!"
Come on, Rowdy Jr., come up with your own material for once.
Coffee? - Reply to this comment
- to OLEANDER-
I'm not saying that the British are 'directly' involved. I'm saying that the way the British Empire works is based upon this motto of 'ruling out of chaos'.
When the British took over India and turned their entire population into a bunch of serfs, it became the British East India Company.
Before the British Empire was just a maritime power with a gigantic 'navy' that enforced trade. The British traded everything from drugs to slaves which is how they became superiorly wealthy.
When Americans started to build railroads here and other countries did the same, that maritime power was threatened and diminished so they tried to enforce another component of their empire which was trading 'stocks and bonds'.
That's how Wall Street and City of London was born and that's why the British Empire is sometimes called the Anglo-American Empire, because the Americans enforce militarily the made-up intrinsic value of their fiat-paper money and worthless 'assets' like derivatives and credit-default swaps.
Now as long as we believe a 'trillion dollars' has more value then a human life, then the British Empire exists but as soon as that 'belief' or 'confidence' runs out, the 'paper tiger' dies.
And the only way that paper-tiger beast lives, is by taking any controversy, or religous and ethnic differences and finance both sides to goad conflict, and out the conflict and chaos, Wall Street/City of London can speculate on the outcome and make money off the Rothschilds principal: "By on the fact...sell on the rumor".
That's our system. - Reply to this comment
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