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9-Year Probe Reveals Decades Of Beatings, Rapes Ignored By Government, At Church-Run Institutions

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by Audrey_Dern May 21, 2009 11:53 PM EDT
jmcgilvray~You are allowing your ignorance to overestimate your intellectual capacity! If you say you don't answer any questions then to me that is a cop out. I don't have to worry about anything....when my time comes to die, I will meet my maker knowing I have done my very best to be good to other people, help other people when I can and live a good life. You are the one who has to worry. I feel so badly for you....I pity you. What an empty life you must lead. I hope that GOD can forgive you....he probably will. as he forgives all fools. Go get a life. Explain to me about how a baby is born, how it was conceived, and how it is born so perfectly. See, I believe in Karma, also. AND you have some bad karma going on. I am so very sorry for you. What are you living for if you have nothing to look forward to.I am not a religious nut, I just know there is a GOD.
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by openeyes1 May 21, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
You really need to read my posts more carefully, or do you not understand what I am saying. When I say Paul's letters do not have the knowledge of Jesus, I mean the Jesus most people have been raised to believe in. You know the divine, all knowing, all powerful, SON OF GOD. Many early Christian texts do not refer to Jesus as divine and even in the Bible the stories of his birth are not the same thorought the gospels. When you actually look at the Bible as a historical document and all the possible flaws of a text during that time you find out some interesting things. I'm sorry if you can separate your book and your faith.
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by blog_fever2 May 21, 2009 4:57 PM EDT
Dear Audrey,
We do not explain such things. We do not know and are honest enough to say so. We do not fabricate *Daddy In The Sky* myths and lie to children to *explain* such things.
The god myth is YOURS. YOU explain it. We have no such obligation.

Seems to me you have bigger things to worry about than such unanswerable questions as why babies have toenails. Perhaps you might ask yourself how religious nuts can be stopped from abusing children. Work on that one for a while, will you?
Posted by jmcgilvray at 11:27 AM : May 21, 2009
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Funny how every response on everything is just a rebuttal. "We dont explain such things." "The burden of proof is not ours" blah, blah, blah. Sounds to me like you do not have an opinion on anything, but just want to discredit others for their beliefs. This reminds me of those hard-core atheists that do not believe in God until tragedy. They are the first ones to yell "OH MY GOD" or "Help Lord" during these times. Just be honest with yourself. I have a question for you. What are your morals and where does your morality come from?
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by blog_fever2 May 21, 2009 4:49 PM EDT
As for Paul's knowledge of Jesus there is even evidence in Paul's letters that he was not aware of the virgin birth or the other gospel text. The only gospel that is even suspected to be written by an apostle is the gospel of John; even this evidence is slim at best. It?s hard to believe that the Bible is a perfect representation of God?s words when it is filled with contradictions.
Posted by openeyes1 at 11:25 AM : May 21, 2009
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Once again inaccurate. The Apostle Paul was very aware of the Gospel of Jesus Christ because he originally was named Saul and would persecute Christians under the guidance of Nero. Ironically when Paul converted to Christianity, it was Nero that had him beheaded. Many of his gospels he wrote himself while in prison in Rome in 62 A.D. Dont take my word for it, read it for yourself.
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by openeyes1 May 21, 2009 2:25 PM EDT
You need to go back and re-evaluate that time line. 13 books of the New Testament (Covenant in NASB) were written by the Apostle Paul and he was beheaded by Nero in 62 A.D. That's only 29 years after Christ's crucifixion. Those were the last books written in the Bible, every other scribe was collected before then.

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I'm sorry but you are the one who has been misled. Go take a real theology course or simply read a few books on the history of the Bible and you find you are mistaken. I never said that the texts weren't written until the 4th century, I said put together but the scriptures that you read in the New Testament were not complete by the 1st century anyway. There were no printing presses at that time and all copies had to be scribed. The original documents had text changed on purpose and accidentally and they even omitted large portions. It is common knowledge that not all Christian texts are included in the canon that was finally official in the 1500?s. As for Paul's knowledge of Jesus there is even evidence in Paul's letters that he was not aware of the virgin birth or the other gospel text. The only gospel that is even suspected to be written by an apostle is the gospel of John; even this evidence is slim at best. It?s hard to believe that the Bible is a perfect representation of God?s words when it is filled with contradictions.
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by Audrey_Dern May 21, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
You atheist out there who are writing in that there is no God, how do you explain a new born baby who has evelashes, arms and legs, toenails, all there insides perfect. If you say there is no God....please explain to me how this happens and who created ths perfect little child. I feel so sorry for you. God gave man freedom to do what he wants and look what we have done with that. Don't blame God....it is man who created all this with their free will!They will have to answer for their sins one day. No one gets away with anything when they die and meet God and have to explain all these things they have done.
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by Audrey_Dern May 21, 2009 12:35 PM EDT
If I were a catholic...which I am not...I would get the hell out of this cult. I certainly leave the catholic church. Just say 3 hail mary's and all is washed away.....wonderful...so then they go out and commit more crimes. If I am going to talk to anyone about anything I feel I have done wrong.....I talk to the main man......GOD.
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by Audrey_Dern May 21, 2009 12:27 PM EDT
davicar5~ I can see you are one of the "brainwashed" catholics. There are many like you and it is dangerous....especially to our young children who have to go through this. AND for the people saying that it happens in Protostant churches.....where is your proof? If you have any.....please post it! You brainwashed people are so in denial and it is dangerous. Wake up before it is too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by blog_fever2 May 21, 2009 10:30 AM EDT
The Bible is a canonization of the documents gathered from various churches and different sects of Christianity and put together in the late 300's AD, 4 centuries after Christ.Posted by openeyes1 at 5:39 AM : May 21, 2009
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You need to go back and re-evaluate that time line. 13 books of the New Testament (Covenant in NASB) were written by the Apostle Paul and he was beheaded by Nero in 62 A.D. That's only 29 years after Christ's crucifixion. Those were the last books written in the Bible, every other scribe was collected before then.
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by blog_fever2 May 21, 2009 10:27 AM EDT
I'm sorry that you have no real proof for your beliefs, that's why it called faith. I personally decided that there is more proof of our origins in science than the Bible. Religion controls and apparently it controls you.
Posted by openeyes1 at 5:39 AM : May 21, 2009
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I have plenty of proof, but there is no reason in going into detail with you, because you try so hard not to fathom God's existence, but yet when I ask your reasoning behind your non-belief, you shy away from the question stating "It's not for atheists to prove." Sad. I hope gives you understanding. The bible teaches that God will prove Himself through miracles wonders and signs. Have you seen any lately?
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