Comments on: U.S. To Boycott Anti-Racism Conference

Tensions Over U.N. Meeting Swell As Muslim Nations Seek To Condemn Israel, Install Curbs To Free Speech

[slownewsday05]

The World is Rasist because they insult ISLAM. But ISLAM can call for the Genocide of anyone because thier religion says so. Thats not racist. I think a peaceful nuclear explosion over IRAN would be bring a nice pleasant SunShine to their country. Thats my religion.
Posted by demslie2all

Sounds like you could be a Christian, after all!

"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)"

[sabre1111]

-You Muslims should be cheering on Obama. He's totally anti-Israel and so is most of his staff. See the church he went to for 20 years. It is one of the most anti-Israel churches in America that gave the anti-semite Louis Farakan, a muslim leader in America, a lifetime achievement award.
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Posted by Right_Wing_Extremist


Yeah, Obama is so anti-Israel that he's skipping a racism conference at the UN that he wants to go to because they will condemn Israel unfairly. Wow. How anti-Israel of him.

Dumba$$.

I know you far right wng nut jobs have a seething, irrational hatred of Obama, but can you at least not ignore reality. I know Obama isn't doing any of the horrible tihngs you nutjobs predicted, but ignoring what he actually does and cotinuing to fantasize all this bad stuff that isn't actually happening is making you all look like idiots.

[kayslug]

Let me first state that I approve of a Jewish state in Israel -

but I do wonder about some of the stories of the holocaust. Would the Jewish cause be hopelessly compromised if the "facts" of the holocaust history were challenged? I am disappointed in the United States for its censorship of an open debate on the holocaust history.

[johninpennsyl]

The United States should attend so that it can use facts and the truth to prove to these Arabs that the United States government is not in Israel's hip pocket.
Not attending makes it look like we have nothing to say to those claims.

[slownewsday05]

Report: President's Muslim grandmother prepares for baptism ? but son says no:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95456

Posted by Right_Wing_Extremist


Who cares? This is not your pulpit. Keep your religious ramblings to yourself, please.

And World Net Daily? THAT right-wing rag? It's trash.

Extremists such as yourself are as bad as the Taliban. You even have it in your screen-name. Go find a less-tolerant country to rant in.

[Right_Wing_Extremist]

Report: President's Muslim grandmother prepares for baptism ? but son says no:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95456

[Right_Wing_Extremist]

While they boycott the UN through their new zionist buttboy Obama
posted by dumpdc

-You Muslims should be cheering on Obama. He's totally anti-Israel and so is most of his staff. See the church he went to for 20 years. It is one of the most anti-Israel churches in America that gave the anti-semite Louis Farakan, a muslim leader in America, a lifetime achievement award.

[Right_Wing_Extremist]

This UN conference is so deceptive. It's merely another case of Muslims trying to play the "victim role" as they continue in their goal of global caliphate with their jihad against Israel and the West. By having a deceptive conference like this, they can fool the lost souls out there and continue to train their young to hate the Jews, hate Christians, hate the West, and become suicide martrys for their god "allah".

Wake up world. This is what Islam is trying to do. One of their main methods of fighting against us "infidels" is by using deception. Their own Quran and Hadith (Hadeeth) permit them to lie and deceive the enemies of Islam.

Please do yourselves a favor and look this up, for God's sake (literally!)

[sabre1111]

While they boycott the UN through their new zionist buttboy Obama, the anti-jewish feelings in the US explode because of corruption like this.
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Posted by dumpdc


"Explode"? Really? What, you mean, like, five guys with some signs? It seems the anti-Israel movement in this country is more like one of the little snappers for kids you throw on the ground to make a little pop sound.

[sabre1111]

And besides, what are you suggesting did the melting anyway? What made the "rivers of molten steel" and why?

Thermite?
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Posted by legacyabq


You are correct, there were no "rivers of molten steel". Engineers (real ones, not conspiracy nutbags) have proven that you only need to weaken the steel's structure to cause collapse. Melting and destroying the steel structure was never necessary.

[legacyabq]

Also, it takes more than jet fuel to cause metal to liquefy into rivers of molten metal! These things---among many more I could go into---are NOT
coincidences!

--stn-sage, i think


Its not JUST jet fuel. Its not the same to compare the burning temperature of jet fuel from a lab test.. There were thousands of gallons involved ALL AT ONCE..

AND, the building is hollow with a huge hole in it.

This means it acts like a chimney, sucking air and oxygen into the fireball by the force of its own convection..
It is a chain reaction
: bigger fire, more suction, bigger fire still, more suction, etc etc

Thats how so much jet fuel burned so fast, and I got to tell you, that is EASILY and BY FAR hot enought o melt steel..

Are you kidding me?

You can melt steel in your own back yard with a homemade furnace, using coal and a bellows airf pump!

Is it so hard to believe that a massive chimney loaded with jet fuel could melt relatively thin steel lattice?

Not really.

And besides, what are you suggesting did the melting anyway? What made the "rivers of molten steel" and why?

Thermite?

[legacyabq]

Starting with the upcoming Census, the US Government SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ASK ANYONE THEIR RACE !!!! EVER AGAIN... HOW HARD IS THAT ?
Posted by oftencensord at 4:59 AM


This statement and the post it came with are RIGHT ON!

Couldn't agree more!

[oftencensord]

I think the US should go. Is Obama afraid?. In America, the lines of race are so so blurry, I am absolutely and constantly astounded at the stupidity of our own government for allowing racial activist to get unconstitutional laws passed. The USA should take a lesson from the UK, and India about racial harmony, and remove the laws and policies used to categorize, mention, assume, or benefit anyone because of race. Equal should mean equal in the eyes of any government.
Activist love to espouse history to justify the use of GOVERNMENT FORCE to get their way, yet every race of people has been enslaved by another throughout history ! Freeing persecution was why so many people came to America and It has taken generations for each group to accept each other... and it is done family by family , not by legislation and laws that hand opportunity to one person and deny it to another based on a bureaucrats perception of YOU! That only encourages more "racism" more separatism, more tension that each individual has to overcome everyday!

Enough Already! People come in a lot of different colors and shapes, speak different languages, believe different things, so what! ...get over it and enjoy it...geeez.

Starting with the upcoming Census, the US Government SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ASK ANYONE THEIR RACE !!!! EVER AGAIN... HOW HARD IS THAT ?

[stn_sage]

To ephd:

OK, good night. This response will be there in the morning if you happen to check.

First, it's not a "conspiracy theory" But, a conspiracy.

Second, clear visual evidence shows that the buildings were exploded from stories below where the alleged planes struck! Also, it takes more than jet fuel to cause metal to liquefy into rivers of molten metal! These things---among many more I could go into---are NOT
coincidences!

Third, you've got it turned backwards! The real evidence IS being ignored to support the ludicrous government conclusions!

Fourth, the vast majority of people who have "studied" this would agree with me! Those
who base their opinion on "sound bites" would not.

Fifth, at least 7 of the "Islamist fundamentalists" the govt accused of committing this act,
were found to be hundreds of miles away, mostly in foreign countries! But, who would
have had the capability of planting a passport in their name at the site?!

Sixth, in spite of its' rhetoric, the govt NEVER charged BinLaden. They couldn't. They have
no evidence he was involved. In fact, they KNOW he wasn't!

Seventh, on one of the planes, a lady had her portable phone on, the accent of the terrorist
sounded like an Israeli national! Granted, this is circumstantial. But, there are a lot of
tremendously brave Mossad operatives who take suicide missions, this wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last!

Eighth, it wasn't a great cover up at all! In fact, there's more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
The reason it's not prosecuted is it would probably result in some kind of 'vote of no confidence' in government or monumental re-shaping of it. Not what powers-that-be want!

Ninth, it's hard to do a convincing cover up, when you left so much evidence readily apparent!

Finally, I wouldn't take personal offense if I were you. Most govts are not known for their honesty---why should Israel or the U.S. be any different?! They're not!

[searingtruth]

Goodnight fellow citizens of the earth.

Let us always stand together in defense of justice and humanity.

Despite all effort to divide us.
ST


"Most often the messenger we seek is within ourselves, and our saviors a mere reflection of what we have always known to be true. Do not abandon your heart my friend, and it will serve you well."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[ephd]

2)Posted by stn_sage at 11:50 PM : Apr 18, 2009

Look, I am sure in almost any situation you can find coincedences and abnormalities to prove some conspiracy theory, especially with a healthy dose of selective abstaction that ignores any evidence that contradicts your theory. In my opinion (and that of the majority of people) this was a terrorist attack by Islamic fundamentalists that was allowed to occur due to inattention and improper precautions by our government, both Bush and Clinton before him (who did not enforce better security after the first attack on that site). I am sure you can find me a picture of a dancing Israeli (taken who knows when) or weird looking smoke patterns. For every proof you show me of Isreali involvement, I am sure there exists much more evidence suggesting otherwise (including many pictures of Arabs dancing, Osama Bin Ladin's tapes, and Al Quieda members' testimony).
In any event, we know who the terrorists were (pictures, tickets etc...) are you suggesting Israel got this many Arabs to agree to participate in a false flag operation (and get Bin Ladin to take responsibility...). Or are you claiming that the inept Bush administration, which had all sorts of leaks, has managed one of the most amazing cover-ups in history - including fake bios of the terrorists, pictures etc.. I dont think so, if they were so good at that they would have done more convincing propaganda for the Iraq war.

Either way, its 216am here and I doubt I could ever convince you to change your views (or vise versa on this issue) so good night, and may the truth prevail.

[searingtruth]

"Posted by searingtruth at 11:45 PM : Apr 18, 2009

1) Thank you for a more in-depth explaination of your viewpoint. I do not agree only because I do not think that the U.S. would be able to find much common ground to start a dialoge at the present time, regardless of our common human bond and aspirations. I think their is to much hate and obsession with Israel for these other countries to sit down and really have a constructive conversation about what all of us, including them, must do to reach our common aspirations."
ephd


Fellow citizen, the aspirations of most all humans are the same.

It is our leaders, throughout history, which have divided us.
ST


"I understand. For I have been disappointed also. Humanity, overall, almost always disappoints me. However humans, individually, almost always fill me with hope. This has led me to the conviction that humanity is good; it is our organization and ideologies that have proven pitifully and woefully ineffective and inadequate."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave

[stn_sage]

To ephd:

Also, check out the many independently produced reports and videos available on the web.

Also, the discussion forums have a number of reports from individuals, police, residents from adjoining buildings in the area, people on the street, etc.. Who give personal testimony to the effect that dozens of Israeli nationals were in the area filming the event from every conceivable angle, as if they were there on assignment filming a movie from a known script!

There were also Israeli nationals who read "hot", as if they had handled explosives, who were stopped in the area and questioned.

Now, I don't know how much information is still left ON the internet today. But, be assured
I'm not making anything up! It's my opinion that the vast majority of Israelis want peace, but there's also that minority group that doesn't! And, this is how it is around the world! Each
country has a little group within it, that would rather wage war than live in peace. What can
be done about it, is certainly an ultimate problem. Maybe you can come up with the solution.

[ephd]

Posted by searingtruth at 11:45 PM : Apr 18, 2009

1) Thank you for a more in-depth explaination of your viewpoint. I do not agree only because I do not think that the U.S. would be able to find much common ground to start a dialoge at the present time, regardless of our common human bond and aspirations. I think their is to much hate and obsession with Israel for these other countries to sit down and really have a constructive conversation about what all of us, including them, must do to reach our common aspirations.

[stn_sage]

To ephd :

So harsh! It certainly wasn't my point to be a brilliant propagandist. OR, to be deceptive in any way! But, if you insist, I will attempt to get you started in the search...

First, go to Google and run searches regarding the subject matter. You will come up with MORE than abundant "hits".

Next, check on YouTube.com they have several informative videos. Also, check Mr. Alex Jones site, he has put out many very informative videos on many current, important subjects!
Check The Power Hour. Check the many independent engineering websites of professional
engineers who have examined the evidence and take exception to official government conclusions!

Believe me when I say, there is extraordinary evidence out there, and literally tens of thousands of experts who do not except the stated government explanation!

I hope this has been helpful. Seek and ye shall find! Have a good Sunday.