Comments on: 35 Bodies Found In Gaza Battle Zone

Health Official Says Women And Children Among Bodies Recovered During Pause In Fighting

[one4gipper]

rusure5, you ask what is the basis for the right of Israel to exist? The basis is this. In 1914, Turks and Arabs joined with the Second Reich for domination of the world. They got their butts kicked and were occupied by the victorious British and French. The Brits allowed Jewish immigration into the conquered territory. In 1917, pursuant the Balfour Declaration, the Brits promised the Jews a homeland in Palestine after Chaim Weizmann, a Jewish chemist, sythesized acetone, one of the most single important factors in avoiding British defeat in WWI. After substantial Jewish immigration, the UN resolved that the Jews would be given their own homeland. Israel was founded in 1948 by duly enacted UN resolution. You know, the UN, the organization that the leftards are now saying is one of the most legitimate organizations in the world.

Today, not everyone agrees that the British should have allowed the Jews to migrate to Palestine. The fact remains, however, that they did. The creation of Israel is the consequence of yet another incident of Muslims being on the wrong side of a war, a war of their own making.

[rusure5]

Re: "Is Hamas now killing people to make it look like Israel attacks killed them..."

Posted by a_witness

There is no evidence that Hamas is doing this.

What we do know is that the Israelis typically target and kill primarily civilians, and that the Israelis are the only group ever proven beyond any doubt to hide behind Human Shields.

[rusure5]

Re: "Lets hope for everyones safety that Isarel keeps up the action until Hamas is no longer a issue..."

Posted by robert2237

Your opinion is clearly that of a tiny minority.

Most of the world appears to be shocked an disgusted by the behavior of the Israelis, especially since they typically target and kill mainly civilian women and children.

[a_witness-2009]

Is Hamas now killing people to make it look like Israel attacks killed them...what a concept. Kill them for the American Press propaganda machine against Israel. Remember, Hamas has nothing to loose.

[robert2237]

Lets hope for everyones safety that Isarel keeps up the action until Hamas is no longer a issue, then from the looks of things they are going to have to go in to another country due to rocket attachs. Those of you feeling sorry for Hamas I bet have never been outside this country or even knows what is going on there except what you hear on the news. Read a little and learn you might change your minds.

I just viewed a video on "Atlas Shrugged" of Hamas pulling up to a wedding party in trucks and gunning down the wedding guests for singing and playing music. Singing is against Islamic law. They beat the groom to death. Another video evidences the Gazans dancing in the streets after 3,000 people were killed in the World Trade Center. They teach their kindergarten kids that Jews are descended from apes and pigs. There is a video of a Hamas gunman grabbing a child and using him as a human shield. Do you apologists for Hamas have any idea who you are supporting? Their stated policy is that they will never accept the existence of Israel. Why should Israel keep trying diplomacy with an organization that will not acknowledge its right to live? Why is it that when Muslim murderers slaughter their own people there is no outcry, but when Israel defends itself the leftards go nuts?
Posted by one4gipper
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Don''t allow all the hysteria and headlines throw you. It''s just there to keep all the "chatterers" busy while Israel goes about the business of doing what must be done.
When this is over, Israel will still be there, a little stronger, a little more secure.
And the Islamists will be a little farther away from their dream of pushing Isreal into the sea.

[rusure5]

RE: "Why should Israel keep trying diplomacy with an organization that will not acknowledge its right to live?"

Posted by one4gipper

Good question. Why should the Palestinians keep trying diplomacy with an organization that will not acknowledge its right to live?

What is the basis for the Israeli claim that they have a right to live?

Are they the only people that enjoy this right?

Re: "Another video evidences the Gazans dancing in the streets after 3,000 people were killed in the World Trade Center."

Here is a video about the Israelis who were seen filming and celebrating the 9/11/01 attacks-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU

Your point?

RE: "There is a video of a Hamas gunman grabbing a child and using him as a human shield."

That is doubtful.

In fact, the only group that we know of, FOR SURE, with a chronic policy of hiding behind Human Shields, are the Israelis themselves- proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, before their own Supreme Court.

www.adalah.org/newsletter/eng/
oct05/1.php

The Israelis often attempt to attribute this practice to their adversaries, as an excuse to justify their own crimes and atrocities, and always without any substantial support.

[greeneyes222]

I might have some sympathy for Hamas if they''d quit firing rockets. They''re still at it, so I guess they don''t care how many civilians die.

[one4gipper]

I just viewed a video on "Atlas Shrugged" of Hamas pulling up to a wedding party in trucks and gunning down the wedding guests for singing and playing music. Singing is against Islamic law. They beat the groom to death. Another video evidences the Gazans dancing in the streets after 3,000 people were killed in the World Trade Center. They teach their kindergarten kids that Jews are descended from apes and pigs. There is a video of a Hamas gunman grabbing a child and using him as a human shield. Do you apologists for Hamas have any idea who you are supporting? Their stated policy is that they will never accept the existence of Israel. Why should Israel keep trying diplomacy with an organization that will not acknowledge its right to live? Why is it that when Muslim murderers slaughter their own people there is no outcry, but when Israel defends itself the leftards go nuts?

[DragQueenWhatDragQueen]

CBSisPravda1, SAY WHAT YOU MUST! IT PROVE YOUR PROGRAMMING IS UP TO SPEED. WE SHOULD CHAT WHEN ISRAEL CLAIMS AMERICA AND YOUR SPOT OF LAND, THEIR PROMISED LAND. MAYBE THAT''S WHY WE PAY THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR NO GOOD REASON.

[jsd330]

Why does everyone think hamas invented hiding behind women and children, and straping on bombs and blowing themselves up.The viet cong did the same thing 40 years ago. And the U.S. troops were labeled "BABY KILLERS" by the world and our own citizens. But because the idf does it it''s OK, by Americans.

[augustus131]

No problem Kafir.. Glad to hear you have a rational thinking/functioning/reasoning brain. I wish more, on all sides did!! Facts are facts.

I don''t have a "dog in the fight". I just try to educate some on the true history of the "root" cause of the present trouble in that area. No real emotional involvement, just reality based on historical facts of the conflict.

[rusure5]

RE: "Terrorists hide behind women and children..."

Posted by CBSisPravda1

Again, the only group that we know of, FOR SURE, with a chronic policy of hiding behind Human Shields, are the Israelis themselves- proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, before their own Supreme Court.

www.adalah.org/newsletter/eng/oct05/1.php

The Israelis often attempt to attribute this practice to their adversaries, as an excuse to justify their own crimes and atrocities, and always without any substantial support.

[proudkafir]

Posted by augustus131 at 03:11 PM : Jan 08, 2009
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thanks for taking time out to enlighten the masses..its high time world citizens stop getting fooled by terrorists who are the real tormentors & trouble-mongers down centuries

[rusure5]

RE: "Why all the pity when "women and children" get killed?"

Posted by martin9p2

Targeting and killing women and children, as the Israelis typically do, is a very serious war crime, and is a repulsive act to most reasonable people.

Re: "In America, we would say that the villain is using women and children as human shields..."

But the fact is that the only group that we know of, FOR SURE, with a chronic policy of hiding behind Human Shields, are the Israelis themselves- proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, before their own Supreme Court.

www.adalah.org/newsletter/eng/oct05/1.php

The Israelis often attempt to attribute this practice to their adversaries, as an excuse to justify their own crimes and atrocities, and always without any substantial support.

One thing is for sure, though- that the Israelis have no standing to criticize anyone for using this tactic, since they so eagerly embrace this practice themselves.

Hiding behind Human Shields and slaughtering unarmed civilians, mostly women and children. This is the face of Zionist depravity and terrorism.

[DragQueenWhatDragQueen]

MUSLIMS WANT ONE THING, FOR WESTERNERS TO LEAVE THEM BE, PERIOD. THEY HAVE THEIR CUSTOMS AND BELIEF''S AND WISH TO BE LEFT ALONE. THEY DON''T WANT YOUR MONEY,CARS, BOATS AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. ISRAEL DECIDE THIS IS OUR LAND CAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO, THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

KICK ISRAELS AZZ OUT AND LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE...IT''S THAT DAM SIMPLE. FALL FOR THE BIBLE HYPE IF YOU WANT. ARM PALESTINE LIKE WE ARMED ISRAEL, AND LET THEM DUKE IT OUT. A FAIR FIGHT IS ALL IT TAKES TO STOP THIS MADNESS. OTHERWISE THERE ARE FORCES WAITING TO STRIKE ISRAEL AS WE SPEAK, AND DON''T BE SURPRISED WHEN IT''S OUR OWN ALLIES BOMBARDING ISRAEL, AND THE U.S.

ISRAEL, IS A ROGUE NATION, AND AMERICA IS AIDING THIS ROGUE NATION. THIS IS GOING ON HERE AND NOW, NOT 2000 YEARS IN SCRIPTURE. THE U.N. NEEDS TO SAVE FACE, THEY''VE ALLOWED ISRAEL TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER, WE AMERICANS CHEER THEM ON.

TALK ABOUT SICK TERRORIST, YOU''VE BEEN PUNKED AMERICA.

I am going to respond with a very heavy dose of your solution...

Posted by hadenough43

So you''''re saying you have every right to box me in and deny my human rights but I have no right to fight back? Hmmmm, seems a little unfair don''''t you think? I agree the Hamas are a miserable, dangerous and cowardly lot but there were other ways of controlling them and in defending. Dropping bombs and shooting missles saefly from afar is cowardly on both sides. The Isrealis shou have been using their world class intelligence cpabilities, and ground forces to go in and get the bad guys. But you don''''t get that do you? The means to the end isn''''t important is it? If they''''re towell heads, their life is meaningless, right? Am I so naive that I''''m worng that finding & destroying missle launch sites and the button pushers can''''t be done so we''''ll just carpet & cluster bomb the whole area? You''''re good with that are you?

Posted by iCi2i
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If you are indiscriminately lobbing rockets at my house - then I have no trouble at all with a cluster bomb to stop your sorry a** - if that''s what it takes.

[augustus131]

The Jews already paid for the land back in the 1910''s-40''s. Read your history!!! They never "stole" the Palestinians land. They bought it (before & after WWII) from the "other" arab princes/sheiks, etc. who controlled/owned the "worthless" arid/swampy land that the nomad "gypsie" Palestinians lived/roamed on (The Jews & arabs actually lived peacefully along side each other for a long time).

After they got their loot, the "other" arab princes, booted the Palestinians off the land they just sold to the Jews; and since no other arab "country" would take in these "gypsie" nomads they were left fend on their own on the little bit of land the "other" arabs had not sold off. Really, the "other" arab tribes had/have more direct responsibility for the plight of the Palestinians, than the Jews or Americans (BTW the British & U.N. are the second biggest reason for this regions screw up, not the USA). If you don''t believe me read up on it.. Study the true history of what happend to Palestine begining around WWI.

Also ask yourself; if all the other arab factions/tribes/countries are really SO concerned about the plight of the Palestinians why hasn''t any other arab country EVER taken in the Palestinians since they''d been displaced/sold them out?!?!?!?!? They don''t really like them and don''t really care what happens to them; they never did. That is why they sold their "worthless" land to the Jews in the first place.

[augustus131]

continued.....

Only after they realized how many jews were moving in (& starting their own country/homeland) and how they (the jews) turned a worthless, arid/swampy land into a productive, viable, profitable, region; ONLY THEN did they "care". That is when they started saying "kill the jews", "get them out of here", "give the land back to the poor Palestinian refugees".

They other countries/tribes don''t care a hoot about the Palestinians and really don''t want the Palestinians to make peace with Isreal. They''d rather use them as an excuse (pawns) to keep harrasing Isreal/jews until they leave (so then they can come in and scoop up the now productive/viable land). If that ever happened (jews leave) then watch who gets/takes over the land and see what will happen to the Palestinians...nothing!

That is why anytime the Palestinians make "peace" with Isreal, "other factions" start causing trouble, like Hamas, like hezbullah, etc.., not usually the Palestinias. These factions come in from other arab countries, like Syria, Lebenon, etc. Just watch, if the P''s make peace with Isreal, in about 6 months some other "non-Palestinian" faction will start trouble non the "plaestinians" behalf. That is what has Really been going on thin the region for the last 60 yrs.

BTW, I''m not Jewish, just well read/educated on the region/subject.

[ici2i]

I am going to respond with a very heavy dose of your solution...

Posted by hadenough43

So you''re saying you have every right to box me in and deny my human rights but I have no right to fight back? Hmmmm, seems a little unfair don''t you think? I agree the Hamas are a miserable, dangerous and cowardly lot but there were other ways of controlling them and in defending. Dropping bombs and shooting missles saefly from afar is cowardly on both sides. The Isrealis shou have been using their world class intelligence cpabilities, and ground forces to go in and get the bad guys. But you don''t get that do you? The means to the end isn''t important is it? If they''re towell heads, their life is meaningless, right? Am I so naive that I''m worng that finding & destroying missle launch sites and the button pushers can''t be done so we''ll just carpet & cluster bomb the whole area? You''re good with that are you?