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Israeli Airstrikes Resume After Allowing Supplies To Reach Civilians; Hamas Rejects Cease-Fire Proposal From Egypt And France

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by trapbreaker January 7, 2009 8:38 PM EST
So if the Palestinians win, you''''ll accept it as their land, won fair and square. - Posted by slownewsdaze

You bet! Now all Hamas has to do is get some tanks and an air force and cross the border into Israel and the land is theirs. Egypt and Jordan learned their lesson and made peace with Israel. They now have trade agreements and diplomatic relations. That is what civilized nations do.

We too 40% of Mexico in the Mexican war and signed a peace treaty. Now we are the #2 trading partner with Mexico and friends.

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by pfness January 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST
So if the Palestinians win, you''''ll accept it as their land, won fair and square.

Posted by slownewsdaze
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No. It is not their land. It was given to the seed of Abraham and Isaac.
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by exusmcsgt January 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST
GREAT to see one of my favorite voices of actual reason. exusmc is quickly becoming another one...

Posted by slownewsdaze at 05:34 PM : Jan 07, 2009

Thank you.

It''s the Marine in us no doubt......
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by jsd330 January 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST
truthin2009 whats propaganda it''s the truth. Or coudn''t you find that in the bible.
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by forclass January 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST
There will never be peace between them:

"Two nations are in your womb, and two people from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger." - Genesis 25:23

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by ajmarine111 January 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST
Posted by slownewsdaze at 05:30 PM : Jan 07, 2009


I''m back for a moment again guy, how have you been?

I see you are still having "heated" discussions with people.
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by roscoe2400-2009 January 7, 2009 8:32 PM EST
Then tell israel to get the hell out and give the land back to syria or to egypt who they took it away from during the 67 war.


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Posted by jsd330 at 05:24 PM : Jan 07, 2009


They have yet to sign a treaty with Syria as a result of the ''67 war like they did with Jordan and Egypt!
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by pfness January 7, 2009 8:32 PM EST
If you want to take the time to learn the soul of these bahble thumpers, here is a very good place to look..
"The True Believer"
Written by Eric Hoffer
Pub. 1951

Googling it will return a summary....
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Writer; born in New York City. Unschooled and temporarily blind as a child, he read voraciously after recovering his sight at age 15. At age 18 he went to California and took up work as a migrant farmer writing on the side; from 1943 he was a dockworker. His writings, starting with The True Believer (1951), a study of fanaticism and mass movements, won recognition for their pungent, aphoristic style and perceptivity. Hoffer retired from the docks in 1967 but continued to be widely celebrated as "the longshoreman philosopher."

Yeah, I''m sure this guy knew all about mass movements from his migrant farm working. We can all come up with theories of our own visiting the library every week.
He was probably just a frustrated Atheist. Kind of like some of the rambling here.



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by exusmcsgt January 7, 2009 8:32 PM EST
You also have no problem with children being taught to become suicide bombers.

Posted by Truthin2009 at 05:16 PM : Jan 07, 2009

It''s called assymetrical warfare.

Israel ensures that the Palestinians have no real army. No air force.

I do not hold with using children to wage war.

But on the other hand, I do not live under occupation.
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by ajmarine111 January 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST
Posted by louthesz9 at 05:26 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Thank you.

I''ve been saying that for years.

They have got me where I hope one side kills off the other and be done with it.
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by themacslayer January 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-do-they-hate-the-west-so-much-we-will-ask-1230046.html

Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask

Wednesday, 7 January 2009
So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night''s work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?
Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead %u2013 almost all civilians, most of them children and women %u2013 in Israel''s 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtered by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardment and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians?
What is amazing is that so many Western leaders, so many presidents and prime ministers and, I fear, so many editors and journalists, bought the old lie;

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And of course, when an Arab bestirs himself with unrestrained fury and takes out his incendiary, blind anger on the West, we will say it has nothing to do with us. Why do they hate us, we will ask? But let us not say we do not know the answer.


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by jsd330 January 7, 2009 8:28 PM EST
Trapbreaker if your so good why don"t you go over ther and draw up a peace proposal.
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by louthesz9 January 7, 2009 8:26 PM EST
You know, I just can''t care anymore, I just cannot work myself to care anymore. I forced myself to watch it. I forced myself to read it. And I just have no emotion, I don''t care. I remember when I was a little kid in the early 80''s, and the Palestinians and Israelis were fighting each other. Let''s face it, there will always be a faction within Palestine that will be violent until all Jews are driven out of Israel. They want the entire place back. They''re just gonna fight like this for the rest of our lives and everybody else would have moved on. There will always be a faction that''ll make trouble no matter what truces, peace accords, or decisions are made. You turn on the cable news and they got the experts and they say "we gotta negotiate", "we have to have a diplomatic solution", blah, blah, blah,.... SHUT UP. JUST SHUT UP!!

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by jsd330 January 7, 2009 8:24 PM EST
It''s common knowledge that palastine is nothing but southern syria
posted by Truthin2009

Then tell israel to get the hell out and give the land back to syria or to egypt who they took it away from during the 67 war.
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by forclass January 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST
www.shoebat.com

The personal story of a former PLO terrorist, WALID SHOEBAT.

He tells all.

Also, it must drive atheists on this forum crazy that the son of a top HAMAS leader became a Christian a few months ago, and now denounces HAMAS, and embraces Israel.

That has to drive anti-Israel anti-Christian anti-Jew atheists on this forum bezerk!


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Posted by Truthin2009

Wow! That is truly amazing!!
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by trapbreaker January 7, 2009 8:20 PM EST
And I wouldn''''t trust the frogs or egyptians as far as I could throw them. - Posted by jsd330

Yeah, or the E.U., or the U.N. or Russia, or the U.S., or anybody except Iran. Perhaps Iran will float a proposal.

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by pfness January 7, 2009 8:17 PM EST
You don''t know that incest is a crime or that beastiality is a crime any more than you know that pedophilia is a crime.

Homosexuality is not.
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It "was". It was called Sodomy and it was a crime. And it still is really. But politicians needed money so they let it be removed from the list. So when it was no longer a crime, it spread like a cancer. Just like pornography.
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by jsd330 January 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST
hamas rejects Cease-Fire Proposal From Egypt and France.
posted by Trapbreaker

Read the proposal, they rejected it because there was no langague lifting the blockades. Which is why they started firing rockets to begin with. And I wouldn''t trust the frogs or egyptians as far as I could throw them.
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by exusmcsgt January 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST
Don''''t support it. Only you and your demented ilk believe in the Islamic propaganda that somehow the "Palestinians" are being oppressed.

Posted by Truthin2009 at 05:13 PM : Jan 07, 2009

Economic blockades and tanks, artillery and air power used on people with small arms is all a figment of my imagination.

Sheesh...
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by exusmcsgt January 7, 2009 8:14 PM EST
HAMAS IS EVIL, GOT IT! HAMAS IS EVIL, they are terrorists, and they teach their young to become suicide bombers.

Posted by Truthin2009 at 05:11 PM : Jan 07, 2009

Moshe Dyan, et.al. were terrorists in Paletine in the "40''s.

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