Comments on: After Brief Pause, Gaza Fighting Rages

Israeli Airstrikes Resume After Allowing Supplies To Reach Civilians; Hamas Rejects Cease-Fire Proposal From Egypt And France

[ajmarine111]

Thank you Spock, you''''re a real gentleman.

Posted by pfness at 06:37 PM : Jan 07, 2009


You are welcome.

Be careful on here.




Guys, I have to go, another time.

[factsearcher]

Good for you. Some people seem to make this place and their views their life and can get carried away sometimes.

Posted by AJMarine111

You think!!!! lol

[ajmarine111]

Regardless, I do "protect" my psyche. I have yet to take any of this TOO seriously, and would quit if I started to.

Posted by slownewsdaze at 06:39 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Good for you. Some people seem to make this place and their views their life and can get carried away sometimes.

[factsearcher]

GOOD evening folks. Does anybody knows how is the body count?

Posted by BagdadsHere9

As of this afternoon over 650...but there is a temporary cease fire now..

[pfness]

Live Long and Prosper.

Posted by AJMarine111
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Thank you Spock, you''re a real gentleman.

[ajmarine111]

Perhaps a bit too far in respect to dealing with her.

Posted by slownewsdaze at 06:33 PM : Jan 07, 2009



Just state your point of view and let it go at that.


The main thing is not to get excited. Keep your head and don''t get emotional with her. She respects strength.

[factsearcher]

Israel''s only response is to try to do what it failed to do after the Gaza withdrawal. The unpardonable strategic error of its architect, Ariel Sharon, was not the withdrawal itself but the failure to immediately establish a deterrence regime under which no violence would be tolerated after the removal of any and all Israeli presence -- the ostensible justification for previous Palestinian attacks. Instead, Israel allowed unceasing rocket fire, implicitly acquiescing to a state of active war and indiscriminate terror.

Hamas''s rejection of an extension of its often-violated six-month cease-fire (during which the rockets never stopped, just were less frequent) gave Israel a rare opportunity to establish the norm it should have insisted upon three years ago: no rockets, no mortar fire, no kidnapping, no acts of war. As the U.S. government has officially stated: a sustainable and enduring cease-fire. If this fighting ends with anything less than that, Israel will have lost yet another war. The question is whether Israel still retains the nerve -- and the moral self-assurance -- to win.

[factsearcher]

Did the Palestinians begin building the state that is supposedly their great national aim? No. No roads, no industry, no courts, no civil society at all. The flourishing greenhouses that Israel left behind for the Palestinians were destroyed and abandoned. Instead, Gaza''s Iranian-sponsored rulers have devoted all their resources to turning it into a terror base -- importing weapons, training terrorists, building tunnels with which to kidnap Israelis on the other side. And of course firing rockets unceasingly.

The grievance? It cannot be occupation, military control or settlers. They were all removed in September 2005. There''s only one grievance and Hamas is open about it. Israel''s very existence.

Nor does Hamas conceal its strategy. Provoke conflict. Wait for the inevitable civilian casualties. Bring down the world''s opprobrium on Israel. Force it into an untenable cease-fire -- exactly as happened in Lebanon. Then, as in Lebanon, rearm, rebuild and mobilize for the next round. Perpetual war. Since its raison d''etre is the eradication of Israel, there are only two possible outcomes: the defeat of Hamas or the extinction of Israel.

[ajmarine111]

I was just going to say....
"Well, don''''t let us keep you!" lol


Posted by pfness at 06:30 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Now that wasn''t so hard now was it.

Life is too short to get mad at things that don''t matter. But you are right, you have to be careful who you joke around with on here.

Live Long and Prosper.

[factsearcher]

At war today in Gaza, one combatant is committed to causing the most civilian pain and suffering on both sides. The other combatant is committed to saving as many lives as possible -- also on both sides. It''s a recurring theme. Israel gave similar warnings to Southern Lebanese villagers before attacking Hezbollah in the Lebanon war of 2006. The Israelis did this knowing it would lose for them the element of surprise and cost the lives of their own soldiers.

That is the asymmetry of means between Hamas and Israel. But there is equal clarity regarding the asymmetry of ends. Israel has but a single objective in Gaza -- peace: the calm, open, normal relations it offered Gaza when it withdrew in 2005. Doing something never done by the Turkish, British, Egyptian and Jordanian rulers of Palestine, the Israelis gave the Palestinians their first sovereign territory ever in Gaza.

[ajmarine111]

AJ - you might be interested in my attempt at peace with Rowdy, below...

Maybe I HAVE learned something from your example! Imagine that...

Posted by slownewsdaze at 06:27 PM : Jan 07, 2009


Maybe.


However, with Rowdy,...and I''m not saying I know her that well, but I think she gets more entertainment from pushing peoples buttons than wanting to find someone to agree with.

I don''t know how she types so fast and has so much to say.

I don''t agree with a lot of what she says or how she says it, but I admire her fighting spirit.

Maybe you should just learn to enjoy the banter that you two do?

[pfness]

go ahead, it won''''t hurt my feelings.

Posted by AJMarine111
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I have a brother in law who would say something like this. We all joke around a lot and you just never know when you are going to offend someone that isnt used to our brand of humor. And I never look to offend anyone.

I was just going to say....
"Well, don''t let us keep you!" lol

[ajmarine111]

Posted by AJMarine111
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lol. You would like that wouldn''''t you....


Posted by pfness at 06:21 PM : Jan 07, 2009



I''m all about peace, love, and happiness guy/girl, I''m not looking for a fight.

If you have something funny, or otherwise to say, go ahead, it won''t hurt my feelings.

[pfness]

Oh go ahead,.....don''''t fight the feeling, knock yourself out.

Posted by AJMarine111
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lol. You would like that wouldn''t you....

[forclass]

What?

[exusmcsgt]

Actually the Illiad and Odyssey have fewer ancient copies and they don''''t match up with what we have now...

Posted by forclass at 06:00 PM : Jan 07, 2009

Oh really now?

How about a source for our versions today not being translations of the works by Homer?

[forclass]

Hmm... Yeah well my bookshelf holds over 300 books so yeah it has more than one. Just only one is of eternal value.

[ajmarine111]

am waiting to pass on so I don''''''''t have to hear about it anymore.

Posted by AJMarine111
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I''''m sorry, but I''''ve just got to say this....lol

No, no....slap..slap...stop it fingers, stop typing...
Sorry, I got it all under control now...I won''''t say it.

Posted by pfness at 05:52 PM : Jan 07, 2009




Oh go ahead,.....don''t fight the feeling, knock yourself out.

[pfness]

An unexamined life is my preference.

Posted by slownewsdaze
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The Great White Throne Judgement is where your life will be examined. I nor you can have an unexamined life. But then again, you don''t believe that, but you will.....
You can think anything you want. It''s still a free country. Man can make his own choices with his free will. Your choice is to not serve God or believe in him. My choice is to follow Christ.
See you on Judgement day.

[exusmcsgt]

LOL! Now THAT''''s funny! Thanks for that one, exusmc!! ROFL!


Posted by slownewsdaze at 05:58 PM : Jan 07, 2009

My pleaseure, slow.....