Comments on: Russia Cuts Gas Supply To Europe
Ukraine Says Shipments Cut By Two-Thirds, Bulgaria Says All Supplies Stopped Completely
- "This could be grounds for war, if someone wanted one.
It is illegal in some states here for our gas co''''s to turn off gas in the winter for people who have not paid their bills. The threat of death is real. Posted by estabwary"
Russia does not care about dead people. The have killed tens of millions of their own people and their neighbors.
One Russian estimate is that the Russians killed 30 million of their own people in the gulag systems of the country. Most of these people were innocent of any crimes. They were forced into slavery and death camps for the sake of building a industrial country and to prevent any dissent.
I predict Russia will eventually invade Ukraine with the excuse their national security is being threatened by the stealing of gas. It doesn''t matter if the story is true or not, the Russians want the Ukraine back for many reasons including gas transit and for the port of Sevastopol - which they feel is part of Russia. Throw in a few hundred thousand Russians that currently live in Ukraine and who want the country part of Russia and it makes for a dangerous situation.
Russian history is repeating itself as Putin rebuilds the old system of dictatorship. Putin has murdered over a hundred editors of private newspapers and magazines, squashed the free press to non-existence, murdered dissenters abroad (remember the polonium poisening in London?) and the list goes on.... - Reply to this comment
- "What did they expect? They refuse to pay their bill and the Russians cut them off. The next step would be to invade militarily and steal the gas, like in Iraq. Except, the Russians would kick them good.Posted by InTheShade"
Get your facts straight. First, the bill was paid, $1.5 bill which was confirmed by the Russians. Second, there is a dispute over the $500 mill which Russia billed for late payments. 25% interest for a late payment? I would tell the Russians to go screw themselves.
The Ukrainians in all this want to raise the transit price for gas, which the Russians have rejected. Ohhh well Russia, you asked for it and Ukraine has the right to just as you do to raise their prices. The figure is kept secret which is a mistake. The number should be leaked to the press by the Ukraine.
Also, consider what the Russians have done to the Ukraine over the years. The Russians murdered tens of millions of Ukrainians. If Russia were to pay reparations for a fraction of the damage the gas would be free for decades.
The lesson in all this is Russia cannot be trusted. Never could be and never will be. Europe needs to find another supplier. - Reply to this comment
- This could be grounds for war, if someone wanted one.
It is illegal in some states here for our gas co''s to turn off gas in the winter for people who have not paid their bills. The threat of death is real. - Reply to this comment
- What did they expect? They refuse to pay their bill and the Russians cut them off. The next step would be to invade militarily and steal the gas, like in Iraq. Except, the Russians would kick them good.
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Either we sacrafice as a nation and ween ourselves off of fossil fuels quickly or we the tensions in the world will increase 100 fold...
there is no intelligence to the way the world/humanity is living on the planet... Changes for the better require sacrafices, but our society has taught us to always take the immediately cheaper and easier route.- Reply to this comment
- We all better get a clue and see that Gas is a obsolete and stupid fuel The first cars ran on peanut oil and Gas was a left over product when they used to heat w/kerosene. They only adopted it because it was so cheap! The U.S. & China both have stated that they will go to war over oil.Now we are in 2 middle east countries w/permanent bases.We are in the final days!
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- And yet the EU continues to coddle and collaborate with the Russia oligarchy...whatelse did they expect!
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- fahren451, when is it time to take a pro-active approach in regards to ones country and life? After an attack, after collapse? Is it ever justified? Just curious.
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- Remember this behavior on the part of Gazprom/Russia, when the next battles break out in Georgia or elsewhere in the Caucasus. This is why the Europeans want Ukraine and Georgia in NATO and why Russia doesn''t.
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- Russia cuts gas supply to Europe,In South America where Russia and China have military bases South America is to stop sending heating fuel to America and the middle East told it''s people to start a cut back on oil production. SOUNDS A LOT LIKE RUSSIA CHINA AND THE MIDDLE EAST WITH SOUTH AMERICA HAS FOUND A WAY TO HURT AMERICA AND EUROPE OR SOMETHING WORSE.
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- and Russian goverment is trustworthy? i dont think so...
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- Why don''''''''t the Europeans just go take the gas? Oh, that''''''''s right, America does all the heavy lifting for Europe.
Posted by b4ucmyI
Hey, super patriot. If France had not bankrupted themselves to fund the Revolutionary war, we would not have a our own Nation.
It is the ignorant like you who have lead the charge to the destruction of our country. - Reply to this comment
- maybe WW III?
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- Gazprom reminds me of OPEC. Force high prices by cutting supply.
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- Do not believe everything that CBS reports to you. In fact Ukraine cut the shipments by two thirds and blames it on Russia in order to pressure Europe and Russia to accept their price proposal of $230 per cubic meter for this year instead of the market price of $450.
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- Why don''''t the Europeans just go take the gas? Oh, that''''s right, America does all the heavy lifting for Europe.
Posted by b4ucmyI
Take it from who? I think Russia might have somethint to say about that.
If I understend this right Russia is cutting supply because the Ukraine is diverting gas ment for the EU to meet their own needs something Russia told them not to do. So if you want to blame somebody blame the Ukraine. - Reply to this comment
- Another good lesson for us to be energy independent. The Russians treat their customers just like OPEC treats theirs,.....always jerkin'' the shutoff valve in the dead of winter. If Europeans had their own gas, we wouldn''t even be talking about this issue would we? Let''s just keep our petro-dollars here, where Americans can get more employment. Better that than giving it to them.
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