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[lopezf11]

This, in turn, undermines one of the strongest literary arguments employed by Christians over centuries to support the historicity of the Resurrection (in which they believe on faith): the specificity and novelty of the idea that the Messiah would die on a Friday and rise on a Sunday. Who could make such stuff up? But, as Knohl told TIME, maybe the Christians had a model to work from. The idea of a "dying and rising messiah appears in some Jewish texts, but until now, everyone thought that was the impact of Christianity on Judaism," he says. "But for the first time, we have proof that it was the other way around. The concept was there before Jesus." If so, he goes on, "this should shake our basic view of Christianity. ... What happens in the New Testament [could have been] adopted by Jesus and his followers based on an earlier messiah story."


Posted by Beodishazmi

You read TIME? That is so pleb.

[caldwellptr]

How about a new paradigm for the Middle East - Peace.

[caldwellptr]

The only requirement to be an American it to have been born or naturalized here.

The only requirement to be part of Hamas is the desire for destruction of Israel through Terrorism.

[beodishazmi]

This, in turn, undermines one of the strongest literary arguments employed by Christians over centuries to support the historicity of the Resurrection (in which they believe on faith): the specificity and novelty of the idea that the Messiah would die on a Friday and rise on a Sunday. Who could make such stuff up? But, as Knohl told TIME, maybe the Christians had a model to work from. The idea of a "dying and rising messiah appears in some Jewish texts, but until now, everyone thought that was the impact of Christianity on Judaism," he says. "But for the first time, we have proof that it was the other way around. The concept was there before Jesus." If so, he goes on, "this should shake our basic view of Christianity. ... What happens in the New Testament [could have been] adopted by Jesus and his followers based on an earlier messiah story."

[beodishazmi]

Such "apocalypses," often featuring a triumphant military figure called a messiah (literally, anointed one), were not uncommon in the religious and politically tumultuous Jewish world of 1st century B.C. Palestine. But what may make the Gabriel tablet unique is its 80th line, which begins with the words "In three days" and includes some form of the verb "to live." Israel Knohl, an expert in Talmudic and biblical language at Jerusalem''s Hebrew University who was not involved in the first research on the artifact, claims that it refers to a historic 1st-century Jewish rebel named Simon who was killed by the Romans in 4 B.C., and should read "In three days, you shall live. I Gabriel command you." If so, Jesus-era Judaism had begun to explore the idea of a three-day resurrection before Jesus was born.

[beodishazmi]

The ink-on-stone document, which is owned by a Swiss-Israeli antiques collector and reportedly came to light about a decade ago, has been dated by manuscript and chemical experts to a period just before Jesus'' birth. Some scholars think it may originally have been part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, a trove of religious texts found in caves on the West Bank that were possibly associated with John the Baptist. The tablet is written in the form of an end-of-the-world prediction in the voice of the angel Gabriel; one line, for instance, predicts that "in three days you will know evil will be defeated by justice."

[beodishazmi]

A 3-ft.-high tablet romantically dubbed "Gabriel''s Revelation" could challenge the uniqueness of the idea of the Christian Resurrection. The tablet appears to date authentically to the years just before the birth of Jesus and yet %u2014 at least according to one Israeli scholar %u2014 it announces the raising of a messiah after three days in the grave. If true, this could mean that Jesus'' followers had access to a well-established paradigm when they decreed that Christ himself rose on the third day %u2014 and it might even hint that they they could have applied it in their grief after their master was crucified. However, such a contentious reading of the 87-line tablet depends on creative interpretation of a smudged passage, making it the latest entry in the woulda/coulda/shoulda category of possible New Testament artifacts; they are useful to prove less-spectacular points and to stir discussion on the big ones, but probably not to settle them nor shake anyone''s faith

[lopezf11]

Lope I am sorry to say that you have been too busy getting it or giving it either way you should read the latest discoveries made in pisrael that 2hundred years before christ jews were talking about the resurection of their leader who had been dead for few days you want me to post the cutting to put you people to ***** shame....okey

Posted by Beodishazmi

No thanks, I get the Smithonian and the Discovery Channel too.

[beodishazmi]

Posted by Beodishazmi

Well almost. Except you left the part out about crucifiction and resurrection. Maggots are part of the decomposition process, you know: dust to dust. But otherwise, pretty close


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Posted by lopezf11 at 04:40 PM : Jan 01, 2009
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Lope I am sorry to say that you have been too busy getting it or giving it either way you should read the latest discoveries made in pisrael that 2hundred years before christ jews were talking about the resurection of their leader who had been dead for few days you want me to post the cutting to put you people to ***** shame....okey

[abrame]

OK - I see the little kiddies are out after school. I''''ll come back when you grow up a bit.
Posted by slownewsdaze

Bye bye terrorist lapdog.

[lopezf11]

OK - I see the little kiddies are out after school. I''''ll come back when you grow up a bit.

Posted by slownewsdaze

When I grow up I want to know the real reason the Japanese were tried and hung.

[caldwellptr]

Assclowns frighten me.

But thanks for the new concept

[lopezf11]

You''''re anti-American if you support Bush.

Posted by slownewsdaze

Some should tell his mom.

[abrame]

Posted by slownewsdaze

We know exactly why you are here. To spread negativity about the USA to US citizens.

You are a terrorist lapdog.

[lopezf11]

I LOVE America. I also believe that Bush actually HATES America.

Once that assclown is removed from office in 20 days, we can start healing the world image of the US.

Posted by slownewsdaze

Bush hates America? Someone ought to tell his mom.

[caldwellptr]

The United States has a long list of countries it supports in the Middle East.

The United States does not support terrorist organizations like Hamas, or countries that support terrorism like Iran.

[abrame]

slownewsdaze is always a anti-USA poster so ipso facto - a terrorist lapdog.

Posted by Abrame

[caldwellptr]

Hamas gives the United States ample opportunities to show it''s support of Israel.

[lopezf11]

Are you talking that christ your saviour an arab fellow who saw roman soldiers coming and asked scotty to beam him up to lala land....you dumbasss yankee doodles born retarded to believe in a man who could not saved his asss from the romans and than all of sudden he become your fvcking saviour maggot ...are you fvcking serious asssholes can you see your fvcking delusional state of mind which happens to be in your assss.....

Posted by Beodishazmi

Well almost. Except you left the part out about crucifiction and resurrection. Maggots are part of the decomposition process, you know: dust to dust. But otherwise, pretty close

[abrame]

Posted by slownewsdaze

We know exactly why you are here. To spread negativity about the USA to US citizens.

You are a terrorist lapdog.