Comments on: Defiant Hamas Hits Israel With Rockets

3 Israelis Killed By Barrage; Palestinians Say Death Toll From Strikes Has Reached 364

[gaye5]

OH COME ON closethippy1, it is time that you learnt some history. Even Mark Twain said that the land was desolate, and only a few Bedouin and Muslims lived there..
The Jews brought much of it at highly inflated prices and the Muslims thought that the Jews were really stupid to pay so much for worthless land, but when the Jews started turning it into productive land, Muslims came from all over to get work and that is why we now have these people who are called Palestinians'' sad that their original Muslim countries wouldn''t take them back eh..

[ktgilb1]

Israel does have it''''s own agenda. It''''s called survival.


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Posted by wvu7462 at 07:53 AM : Dec 30, 2008




That argument worked back in the 50s, but lets face it, everyone knows Israel is here to stay, no one is trying to DESTROY ISRAEL!!!!! I''m tire of that excuse being used to justify Israels aggression. I''m all for defending yourself, but, that argument has ran its course. Hamas needs to stop also, but i don''t think it is all their fault. I think they are trying to get equal representation in that region. how they are going about it is wrong, but if i''m not mistaken Israel knows a thing or two about using terror to get what it wants. Karmas a *** isn''t it.

[gaye5]

Just look at those sad photos, but where were the photos of dead children when Hamas sent rockets into Israel over the past few years????
Israeli action is a response to years of rocket fire from Gaza into Israel during which time the media was pretty quite on what Hamas was doing to Israel, but upon the Israeli military forces launched Operation Lead Cast with the stated goal of stopping Palestinian missile attacks on southern Israel, the condemnation of Israel''s actions was immediate. . Does this mean that it is ok for this recognised terrorist organisation to do it''s best to destroy Israel with its rockets, and Israel is not allowed to retaliate..
Hamas announced that it would no longer abide by the 6 month truce and instead fired hundreds of rockets into southern Israel and the media is up in arms against Israel, come on!!!. Even Hamas although they have used schools and Mosques to shoot their rockets from, have acknowledged that most of those killed in the Israeli strikes have been Hamas forces, not innocent civilians. Hamas is a terrorist organization and is recognized as such by the United States and the European Union.
It appears that from the many reactions against Israel, and from the media, it is ok for Hamas to launch rockets into Israel but not for Israel to launch rockets into Hamas to protect themselves.. Is Israel supposed to continue to allow their people to be killed,

[ktgilb1]

Why is it that we take israels word on everything. To me it makes no sense to pick a fight you can''t win. I think Israel has its own agenda. I think we in the United States need to pull all support from Israel. I could see backing them if they had no defense, but Israel is the best equiped military force in the region, they don''t need our help. And how do we know Hamas really fired those rockets. all we have is Israels word. Personaly i''m sick of backing Israel, it has give the US nothing but bad luck. They want to be the big dog on the block, let them do it without us.

[juwboy]

neoNaziCrazyConMan said that:

"the new `holocaust` book ... proved to be a forgery."

Further proof that English is not your first language.

The book proved to be a work of historical fiction.

"Fiction" and "forgery" are not synomymous.

[juwboy]

closethippy1 asked:

"Are you saying that Jews stayed put in Europe while a Holocaust was being carried out against them."

Yes.

During WWII, only a few hundred Jews escaped and made it to Palestine -- where they were refused landing permission by the heartless Limeys and sent back to Nazi-occupied Europe to die in the concentration camps.

Virtually all of the 553,600 Jews who were in Palestine at the end of World War II came there before 1939 because the Limeys had a "no Jewish immigration" policy in place for the entire duration of WWII and a couple of years beyond.

The Jewish population in 1948 was about 600,000, so it ought to be clear, even to a moron like you, that the majority of Jews did not emigrate to Palestine in the period 1945-48.

closethippy1, why don`t you spend some time studying Middle East history instead of wasting ours with your ignorant opinions?

As is the case with neoNaziCrazyConMan, I suspect that English is not your first language.

[closethippy1]

If Israel is being attacked in any way by Palestinians is because of the occupation and confiscation of their land.
Every word the Palestinians have said about Israel, every action taken, every breath comes after the fact.
Most Jews who lived in Palestine before Israel was created in 1948 came to Palestine after the end of World War 2. It wasn''t until 1996 that Israel elected a Prime Minister who was actually born in Israel.
So if land can be taken by force then, heck, it''s more than OK to take back by force!
The only way to stop the bloodshed over there is by implementing international law which will then lead to the implementation of the agreed UN resolutions.
I don''t understand why Israel and the US are against this since Israel is the only country in the world to have been created by the UN!
So if the UN laws are good enough for its creation it sure is good enough to keep the peace.

[closethippy1]

Tell me what you know about what happened to Jews during the Russian and Polish pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, the Black Death and thousands of other examples of bigotry and discrimination too numerous to detail here.
closethippy1, I`ll ask you again.
Why don`t you spend some time studying Jewish history instead of wasting ours with your ignorant opinions?
Posted by juwboy at 07:32 AM : Dec 30, 2008

What did they do? They moved around Europe but hardly anyone of them moved out of Europe. Some might have gone to the the Americas, some to the Middle East but on the most part they stayed within Europe.

[closethippy1]

So, contrary to closethippy1`s claims, the majority of Jews in Israel, at the time of its creation, did NOT emigrate there from Europe after the end of World War II.
Posted by juwboy at 07:23 AM : Dec 30, 2008

1945 is after War World 2. War World 2 ended that year.
Are you saying that Jews stayed put in Europe while a holocaust was being carried against them?
However you look at it you cannot deny that by the time European refugees arrived in Palestine they were one very angry bunch and took out their anger on innocent Palestinians, and have been doing so for the last 60 years.

[juwboy]

closethippy1 said that Jews were content in Europe for 2000 years until the Holocaust.

Thank you for providing absolute unequivocal proof of your complete ignorance.

Tell me what you know about what happened to Jews during the Russian and Polish pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, the Black Death and thousands of other examples of bigotry and discrimination too numerous to detail here.

closethippy1, I`ll ask you again.

Why don`t you spend some time studying Jewish history instead of wasting ours with your ignorant opinions?

[juwboy]

neoNaziCrazyConMan:

Your Shirer reference is in total agreement with what I`ve just said about Hitler''s rise to power.

Is English your first language?

[juwboy]

neoNaziCrazyConMan:

Now you`ve proved you`re not only prematurely senile but it`s clear you have difficulty reading and interpreting written English.

closethippy1 stated very clearly that the majority of Jews in Palestine at the end of the British mandate had emigrated there from Europe since the end of World War II (1945).

You said, and I no reason to doubt you, that there were 553,600 Jews in Palestine in 1945.

In 1948, there were about 600,000 Jews there.

So, contrary to closethippy1`s claims, the majority of Jews in Israel, at the time of its creation, did NOT emigrate there from Europe after the end of World War II.

They couldn`t emigrate there because the Limeys refused to let most of them in.

[neoconrcrazy]

jewboy:

"On 30 January 1933 Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of a coalition government of the NSDAP-DNVP-Centre Party. "

References
^ Shirer, William L. (1960). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, Simon and Schuster

[endurorob]

Posted by juwboy

Are you really printing this stuff?

[neoconrcrazy]

"Former US President Harry Truman described Jews as `very, very selfish` in newly discovered diary notes that have surprised scholars."

No doubt the notes came from a newly-discovered diary that is as authentic as the recently-discovered diary of Adolf Hitler and the secret will of Howard Hughes.

Posted by juwboy


sorry again jewboy, it''s a fact and not coming from forged diaries, like the new "holocaust" book which itself, proved to be a forgery....

some peoples are born with lies on their lips. Shalom.

[juwboy]

neoNaziCrazyConMan:

I have NEVER said that Hitler was elected by a MAJORITY of Germans because he wasn`t.

I said that Hitler was elected as Chancellor in free and fair elections, which he was.

You, on the other hand -- and I have a printout of it here in front of me -- said that Hitler was APPOINTED by Hindenberg, which he wasn`t.

Hitler`s Nazi party gained the most seats (about 40%) in the German 1933 election and, in accordance with standard procedure in a Parliamentary democracy, the President, Hindenberg, invited him to attempt to form a majority government by creating a coalition with smaller parties -- which he did.

A similar situation existed at the last Irish election. Bertie Ahern`s Fine Gael party did not obtain a majority, but as the leader of the party with the most seats, he was invited by the Irish President, Mary McAleese, to form a coalition majority Government, which he did, by forming an alliance with minor parties.

Hitler became Chancellor in 1933 by an analogous process.

neoNaziCrazyConMan, you really need to see a psychiatrist about your premature senile dementia and short-term memory loss.

[neoconrcrazy]

closethippy1, why don`t you spend some time studying Middle East history instead of wasting ours with your ignorant opinions?

Posted by juwboy


jewboy, you''ll never learn will you? Ignorance is genetic in your case I''m afraid.

closthippy is correct:

"In 1945, a demographic study showed that the population of the British Mandate had grown to 1,764,520, comprising 1,061,270 Muslims, 553,600 Jews, 135,550 Christians and 14,100 people of other groups."

It is easy to see that the jewish popoulation at 1945 of about half a million is now up to 5-6millions, and that closethippy understands the situation much better than a juwboy from USA.

Shalom.

[juwboy]

Floydypoo said:

"Former US President Harry Truman described Jews as `very, very selfish` in newly discovered diary notes that have surprised scholars."

No doubt the notes came from a newly-discovered diary that is as authentic as the recently-discovered diary of Adolf Hitler and the secret will of Howard Hughes.

[xcuja]

If you deliberately agitate a dog, he will eventually bite, and as it goes with Humas, although not a dog, but the Israelis continue to agitate him, knowing he will re-act, and they use it as reason to attack and commit a NAZI MASSACRE. I believed this was all planned by Israel and Bush, in hope that Iran would step in, and then the US would run to the rescue, thus the war Bush wants with Iran. Israel pulled out the Jews in Gaza, so they would not be in the crossfire. We were so busy looking at the door of Blagojevich, we failed to see what Bush and Israel were planning. Obama is friends with Condi Rice, and on good terms with Bush, so he will, no doubt, side with Israel. He seems to be playing the same game as, Lieberman, and McCain, playing both ends against the middle,--- going nowhere.

[closethippy1]

Posted by juwboy at 06:44 AM : Dec 30, 2008

Whatever the Mufti''s intention were he didn''t get to kick out a single Brit or Jew.
The fact of the matter is that most Jews who lived in Palestine in 1948 came to Palestine after War World 2, many of them after being rejected entry to the US which by the end of WW2 took in less than 2000 Jewish refugees from that war.
Before the Holocaust happened Jews were content in Europe. They lived for 2000 years and despite some setbacks they stayed in that continent until the Germans went nuts on them with the Holocaust and that''s when the Jews decided to take off.
Before then Europen Jews considered Zionism, the Jewish monvement to move to Palestine, a joke.