Comments on: U.S. Wants Pakistan Crackdown On Militants

Secretary Of State Rice Demands "Concrete Steps" From Islamabad In Mumbai Attack Probe

[cntrymuzksux]

Gotta go! Good day to all.

[notblue]

avoice, take a trip to New York city and tell any native New Yorker the same thing you just stated in your post and see how that works for you. LOL!

[notblue]

Hungry, you are under the mistaken impression that terrorists somehow show allegiance to specific countries, I realize in order to make sense of your world, these radicals need specific representation, that couldn''t further from the reality of what radical Islam is. Radical Islam is an ideology, this savage agenda uses terrorism in an attempt to sway the victims own beliefs. The militants represent an ideology that seeks to purposely target innocent civilians using any means that create the most destruction and loss of life, until people like you admit this truth then nothing short of your own destrucion at the hands of this evil will sway you, unfortunately that would make it too late for the likes of you.

[cntrymuzksux]

Look up "Deccan Mujahadeen".

They were trained by the ISI for SPECIFICALLY that purpose.

Posted by IwasHungry68 at 05:24 PM : Dec 04, 2008

But your not considering the ISI/military and the govenment have opposing goals or at least spheres of influence.

[cntrymuzksux]

Where is the international community?

Posted by IwasHungry68 at 05:22 PM : Dec 04, 2008

Afghanistan!

[notblue]

floyd if what you say is true then why don''t they just bomb America? Why do you ignore the fact they have caused death and destruction in NUMEROUS countries? Why is it everyones fault but the bombers? People like you, who share the same view as the militants never let a silly thing like logic and truth sway your opinion, just hate, that''s all you savages need. LOL!

[cntrymuzksux]

If ANYONE should respond, it should be the UN as an international force.

Posted by IwasHungry68 at 05:07 PM : Dec 04, 2008

You''re on the right track, in my estimation. The problem is, the U.N. is impotent and this is not a peacekeeping mission. The lions share of the supposed U.N. troops would most likely be tasked from the U.S. anyway.

Also, do you really believe Pakistan would welcome a U.N. force into their sovereign land? Even without U.S. forces comprising part of the U.N. contingent, whomever would comprise that force would end up being the target of terrorists. Unless, of course, you would consider a contingent of Islamic countries only. That idea just doesn''t give me a warm-fuzzy.

[notblue]

Floyd, how many abortion clinic bombers are there? Are they equal to the tens of thousands of militants that inhabit the planet? Do they use suicide bombers? How many lives have been wiped out by these abortion clinic bombers and how many countries do they preside in? Are the abortion clinic bombers the primary reason for unrest in the WORLD? You sir are an idiot!

[notblue]

floydzepd, there you go justifying the agenda of destruction perpetrated by the Islamic militants again! Yawn.

[notblue]

avoice, what''s your opinion on Radical Islam? Do think it''s a good thing? Do we need to bow to it? Do you think that leaving the militants alone will make America safer? Or do you just insult? Do you have an opinion? Do you think these attacks that purposely target innocent civilians are justified? Just curious.

[cntrymuzksux]

Yawn. The India attacks are over Kashmir. And you wouldn''''t know a truth if it bite you.

Posted by FloydZeppd at 05:03 PM : Dec 04, 2008

If the attacks happened anywhere in Kashmir and occured between opposing military forces, I''d say your point would be more relevant.

[notblue]

Antone who refuses to believe this is not Americas problem has grip on reality. This is a GLOBAL PROBLEM, rertreating from the world will not make America safer, ignoring these attacks and threats will not make us safer, refusing to recognize the evil called Islamic militancy will not make us safer.

Floydzep,. it''s amaxing any statement vilifying your brothers in Jihad would make you yawn, Yet again when it comes to you nothing is surprising.

[secundus2]

The best scenario? Pakistan''s government doesn''t extradite anybody to India, but instead arrests, tries, convicts and punishes the sponsors and trainers of terrorists on its soil; then it closes the camps and compounds of L-e-T.

A more likely scenario? Pakistan''s government keeps braying about its sovereignty, although it doesn''t even control its own national territory. The government is ripe to be overthrown by the generals, because it tries to please every faction and that paralyzes it.

[notblue]

Hungry, the attacks in India were perpetrated by the same ideology driven Islamic militants that attacked America and countless other free nations overthe last three decades. Peoplelike may somehow need to "split hairs" "Cherry pick" when all these attacks are carried out by savages who are united in their belief. Any insults you spew are irrellivant to these facts, it''s not my fault you refuse to recognize or acknowledge these truths.

[cntrymuzksux]

And then you go on some off the wall, weird tangent, that makes no sense about how we should do something proactive about it.

NO - WE SHOULDN''''T!! This isn''''t our issue!! It''''s between India and Pakistan, and it should stay that way!!


And why do you think that 9/11 happened because we didn''''t "do something previously"? What do you think we were supposed to do, when, and why?


Posted by IwasHungry68 at 04:42 PM : Dec 04, 2008

I believe we should be proactive in this situation. We''re not talking about murderous rampages in Darfur, we''re talking about two nuclear powers and one of them scares the bejeezus out of me ''cause whoever has their hand on the shiny red button is tenuous at best. So, in a nutshell, it is our issue along with a whole host of other nations that could end up being affected.

Lastly, the statement you ended with seems to me a bit contradictory. Did we do something previously? I believe we did but it was inadequate. We know where the threats are but the question is, what can we do about them? And yes, I believe we should do something.

[ajmarine111]

That didn''''t seem to matter to us when we came into Afghanistan though.

Posted by cntrymuzksux at 04:43 PM : Dec 04, 2008



We gave the Taliban an ultimatum, give up OBL or get your a*s kicked,..........they choose the a*s kicking.

[cntrymuzksux]

And be doing what?

Do you think the Pakistan Government had anything to do with it?.........and if you don''''t, then where would you start the killing?

Posted by AJMarine111 at 04:29 PM : Dec 04, 2008

First, considering my previous post, I''m assuming the attacks did originate in Pakistan (evidence does seem to be pointing in that direction.)

Secondly, to answer your question, no, I don''t believe Pakistan''s government was actively involved. Key word being actively. That didn''t seem to matter to us when we came into Afghanistan though.

[ajmarine111]

Posted by AJMarine111

Perhaps the tribal controlled regions?

Posted by melchg at 04:31 PM : Dec 04, 2008




Perhaps?


"while speaking at a campaign stop in New Hampshire in August 2007, Obama said that American strategy in the War on Terror in Afghanistan and the tribal regions of Pakistan amounted to %u201Cjust air-raiding villages and killing civilians, with is causing enormous problems there.%u201D Those comments were not helped by the fact that on August 3, 2007, in a major policy address, Obama said that he wanted to %u201Cmake this clear%u2026If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won%u2019t act, I will.%u201D



Sounds like if we don''t want to be criticized for "%u201Cjust air-raiding villages and killing civilians",....again,.... we should have a better plan then "perhaps".

[ajmarine111]

If these attacs happened in the U.S., we''''d already be on the ground in Pakistan.

Posted by cntrymuzksux at 04:21 PM : Dec 04, 2008



And be doing what?

Do you think the Pakistan Government had anything to do with it?.........and if you don''t, then where would you start the killing?

[notblue]

hungry, the problem with that is they will attack again and on American soil, remember 911? That happened because we refused to do anything previously, we let them attack because we didn''t want to be pro-active in the fight. You are under the mistaken impression that if we just retreat from the world the bad guys will leave us alone. How many attacks does it take to convince people like you that these radical militants will not leave us or any other free countries alone? Maybe if the next time the militants use a nuke, a dirty bomb or a biological agent that kills tens of thousands then will the realization that it''s not Americas fault sink in? Doubt it! The only argument you have ever made is we created these barbarians, WEAK! A 6th century savage ideology created these extremists, why do you continuously ignore this FACT? Is it because you are one of them? A propoghandist? If the shoe fits!