Comments on: Trace Melamine Found In U.S. Baby Formula

Same Chemical Fatally Added To Chinese Formula; FDA Says Amount Detected Here Is "Perfectly Fine"

[txgrouch2007]

OK, OK, all joking aside.

This issue of "detecting trace amounts" is the result of the latest technology being able to detect MINISCULE amounts of a substance, even just a few molecules.

As chemical detection technology continues to improve, eventually we might be able to detect individual molecules.

This was an "infotainment" evening TV show a long time ago - all of the scary pesticides and other toxic chemicals that are "detectable" in ordinary substances, including food and water. But halfway through the show, the let us in on the gag by pointing out that the QUANTITIES detected were so small that nobody could make a credible case that there was any significant danger.

The melamine found in US formula is incidental quantities caused by TOUCHING some plastic item or some object that had been cleaned with a melamine-containing cleanser.

NOBODY is intentionally pouring macroscopic quantities of melamine in U.S. baby formula.

This whole news item is a joke.

[differnet]

It''s very hard to have any faith in the FDA assurances that the amount of melamine is so small as to be "harmless, " when one considers the many stories like this over the last few years. I feel sorry for President-elect Obama. He has the overwhelming task of trying to restore faith in governmental ageancies. I certainly would be very frightened if I was a mother relying on formula for the nurturance of my child.

[Meg003]

There have always been problems with contaminants in food, natural or manufactured. You can grow your own garden vegetables or fruit but have a passing bird leave contaminants on the food.

Aside of the potential contamination issue, with baby formula mothers are choosing the manufactured infant food over what her body produces. When changes are made in formula, don''t you wonder about what infants were missing before the change, and what is missing in today''s infant formula that will be added later?

Unless a mother has some issue that prohibits breastfeeding, she should seek a mentor and make up her mind to nurse her babies. It isn''t always easy, and it''s best to have someone to support you if things aren''t going well. Your baby''s health is worth the effort.

[txgrouch2007]

The story refers to products made by U.S. manufacturers, not Chinese.
Posted by DaVicar1 at 10:55 AM : Nov 26, 2008

That''s what must be warming the hearts of Bill Clinton and other advocates of globalization.

We have become JUST LIKE CHINA!!!

[txgrouch2007]

as a bulwark against civil remedies against big pharma for bad products , one that had failed to have any way ...
Posted by clovisbuford at 10:51 AM : Nov 26, 2008

Do you drive a 1969 VW Beetle with your deranged ravings painted all over it with the lines so close together that the letters from one line touch or overlap the letters of the adjacent line?

There''s a mental health facility somewhere with trained professionals waiting to help you.

Go there. Please.

[clovisbuford]

1.)A mother%u2019s breast milk IS NOT immune from containing trace amounts of these chemicals.
2.)Chemicals at this incredibly low level are obviously not being introduced intentionally.
3.)The story refers to products made by U.S. manufacturers, not Chinese.
Posted by DaVicar1 at 10:55 AM : Nov 26, 2008 you are quite right on 2 and 3 however #1 would depend on the mothers diet.and #2 I am not sure they have established any safe levels of melamine in infants . I am not saying there are not any , I am saying I don''t know there is a body of work out there in the US that has a scientific opinion on safe melamine levels in infants one way or another. I myself if I had an infant would try to err on the side of caution especially with the statement from the gocers assoc.The Grocery Manufacturers Association, for example, told its members: "FDA could not identify a safe level for melamine and related compounds in infant formula; thus it can be concluded they will not accept any detectable melamine in infant formula." other than that a pretty good voice for rationality vicar or at least as close to reasoned argument as one sees here .

[Meg003]

Baby formula should be avoided whenever possible, in my opinion, whether containing known contaminants or not. Any mother who can should eat the best foods, drink plenty of water, and nurse her infants.

[clovisbuford]

You are an imbecile.
Posted by txgrouch2007 at 10:00 AM : Nov 26, 2008 and what would you say about a government that deliberately relaxed oversight over food safety? that made it public policy to let food manufactures , over see themselves ,without any enforceable means of oversight or penalties for lack of doing so? What about a government agency that inserted itself as a bulwark against civil remedies against big pharma for bad products , one that had failed to have any way of tracing salmonella such as the spinach outbreak , last yr . I want to say whether its the FDA , The EPA , the Sec , whether its , food , drugs , mine safety , wall street , the mortgage industry , under Bush this whole deregulation thing has been a disaster , tainted toys from china , lax oversight in every industry , putting lobbyists over the very industries they worked for etc. .. not a big winner in my opinion . Then again I just had a chance to express my opinion on the last 8 yrs at the ballot box .. yaay America.

[lady_organs]

If the baby formula is tainted with poison, then mothers should breast feed the infants. There is no reason to accept products that are intentionally-made dangerous. The Chinese Government wants fewer infants.


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Posted by Petro49L
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Breast feeding infants makes the white, blue eyed, blonde haired baby Jesus cry.

[petro49l]

If the baby formula is tainted with poison, then mothers should breast feed the infants. There is no reason to accept products that are intentionally-made dangerous. The Chinese Government wants fewer infants.

[txgrouch2007]

picking fights on the internet over spelling is indicative of not having one. perhaps campaigning for palin would be a good choice for you.
Posted by littlebit123 at 10:33 AM : Nov 26, 2008

You, on the other hand, are much more mature for posting things like:

Please feed this garbage to yourselves ... That way way the rest of us can be rid of you. txgrouch especially.
Posted by littlebit123 at 10:18 AM : Nov 26, 2008

Yah, that''s SO much more enlightened... LOL!

[littlebit123]

txgrouch: please get a life. picking fights on the internet over spelling is indicative of not having one. perhaps campaigning for palin would be a good choice for you.

[txgrouch2007]

What?
Posted by rushlimpdrug at 10:27 AM : Nov 26, 2008

Never mind. It''s too hard for you to understand.

[txgrouch2007]

please check your own dictionary for definition of imbicile. You qualify.
Posted by littlebit123 at 10:25 AM : Nov 26, 2008

Maybe if YOU checked, you''d know how to SPELL imbecile.

Here''s another one for you to look up: projection. It''s you.

[rushlimpdrug]

"federal regulators insist the products are safe.
. . .. The Food and Drug Administration said last
month it was unable to identify any melamine
exposure level as safe for infants"

What?

[usclimey]

Now my 11 month old has been using Similac formula and now I worry about her ingesting this POISON...

Remember, only 18 samples were tested out of how many MILLIONS sold?


Posted by jtdev1

[littlebit123]

txgrouch: please check your own dictionary for definition of imbicile. You qualify. Hugs & kisses -

[usclimey]

First, chlorine and chloride are not the same thing. Second, NaCl is an ionic compound (found naturally) that is not toxic; melamine is toxic.

Posted by avoice

I was simly pointing out that just because the components of a chemical are toxic, does not mean the chemical is. By the way the way chlorine is made industrially is to pass an electric current through molten sodium chloride.

So everything man-made chemical is toxic?

[littlebit123]

Neo-republicans and so-called conservatives: Please feed this garbage to yourselves (please not to your children) and purchase all Chinese products you can. That way the rest of us can be rid of you. txgrouch especially. Happy Thanksgiving.

[txgrouch2007]

avoice: thank you for enlightening usclimey. ignorance like that should be embarrassing.
Posted by littlebit123 at 09:33 AM : Nov 26, 2008

Do you even know what a dictionary IS???

You''re an imbecile, too.

Or avoice posting under a different screen name. LOL!