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Rumsfeld Penned Order Allowing Ground Forces To Invade Any Country To Go After Al Qaeda

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by tincup356 November 10, 2008 9:00 PM EST
you people need to remember , the enemy was identified by Bush , Bush who has lied about everything about the war.Slick move to get the attention away from his lies.George, ***, and donald are the worlds biggest terrorists.They just make up and break laws to do what they want to, at anybody else''s expense.they are in the act right now of a large terror scheme called the bailout.After they devalue the American dollar as much as they can they will introduce the Amero, and will gladly exchange them for your dollars...at pennies on the dollar...coming soon .Just wait till they are all up on charges of war crimes, treason, murder, extortion,torture and breaking of Geneva convention laws.i hope to see all three of them tried , convicted , and executed.For what they have done to our country and the world.
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by promaclaura November 10, 2008 8:45 PM EST
Terrorist''s live among the civilians, at their families peril. It would be wonderful if these cells would group together and set up barracks away from the innocent, targeting them would be so much easier.
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by erich_1-2009 November 10, 2008 8:33 PM EST
"The U.S. military has conducted nearly a dozen secret operations against al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in Syria, Pakistan and other countries since 2004"....

They should be continued and expanded.

I couldn''t agree more!
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by promaclaura November 10, 2008 8:25 PM EST
The operative essence of the terrorist threat is precisely that it is dispersed into small, individual factions in many different countries. Therefore, you have to attack it as such. You need small, lethal clandestine operations to quietly insert, kill and leave. Attempting to acuire the preliminary permission of many of these governments is not feasible. It may not even be necessary in their minds, provided they are able to maintain plasubile deniability. It is often much easier to receive forgiveness than permission.


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Posted by brianp55 at 05:19 PM : Nov 10, 2008

I don''t think we will ever see a Middle Eastern government fully engage against terrorism. It''s asking them to conduct war with brother against brother, not all muslim''s believe in jihad but the enemy does sometimes live within their homes. I like Brian''s final statement as it is very true.
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by brianp55 November 10, 2008 8:19 PM EST
The operative essence of the terrorist threat is precisely that it is dispersed into small, individual factions in many different countries. Therefore, you have to attack it as such. You need small, lethal clandestine operations to quietly insert, kill and leave. Attempting to acuire the preliminary permission of many of these governments is not feasible. It may not even be necessary in their minds, provided they are able to maintain plasubile deniability. It is often much easier to receive forgiveness than permission.
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by promaclaura November 10, 2008 8:04 PM EST
Targeting just Bin Laden is not going to eliminate terrorism. OBL is in the forefront, but not the end all be all to stop muslim extremism. These "terror" cells are in all countries, but they have no country. Comparing the war on terror to the cold war/Soviet Union is like comparing apples to oranges. The Soviet Union was talking tough to protect their borders, terrorism is talking/acting aggresive to promote a religious zeal. We insult them when we think talking will change their minds on our destruction, terror listens only to jihad.
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by nycsense November 10, 2008 8:04 PM EST
richwl1,

Getting back to small scale attacks on other countries. You''re saying that we can afford to attack in small skirmishes. How long do you think it would take before these countries band together and declare war on us? Because a war is not just us declaring war on someone else.
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by thechooch1 November 10, 2008 7:50 PM EST
richwl1

If we had been doing it all along, why weren''t we doing it right? Where is bin Laden? Why didn''t we go after them? What harm is talking to our enemies? Our country has a history of doing just that. Even during the scariest part of my life, the cold war, we talked to the Soviet Union.
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by nycsense November 10, 2008 7:49 PM EST
richwl1,

No sit downs with Al Queda, period. I''m talking about the leaders of the Iraqi insurgents, who are not Al Queda. And a dialog with the Taliban leaders. Because if history shows us anything, no one has EVER defeated the Afghans, not on their turf anyway, just ask the Russians.
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by richwl1 November 10, 2008 7:33 PM EST
Fact is, all history is revisionist, and the "truth" more often than not depends on who''s claiming to tell it. Sorry, but I do see the fight against Al Qaeda as a black and white issue. They chose to forgo diplomacy to express their discontent with us, why should we know use diplomacy to deal with them? Do you really think it will work to sit down with them and discuss our differences??? There is no justification for what they did anymore than there is any justification for what Hitler did. Yes, everyone should have the right to protest injustices, but no one, IMHO, has the right to slaughter innocents.
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