Comments on: "Modesty Patrols" Sow Fear In Israel

Ultra-Orthodox Jews, On Campaign For Purity, Allegedly Stone Women For Wearing Red Blouses

[toolmangler-2009]

Posted by sun247 at 02:28 PM : Oct 05, 2008


I may owe you an apology, I failed to see the words "control-freak fundamentalists" in your statement. "Jewish, Islamic, Christian, and whatever else religious, control-freak fundamentalists", or did you mean it to be all-inclusive?

[toolmangler-2009]

Religion is the great home of those actors who are lazy and fearful. Secular democracy is the great home to those actors who are diligent and brave.
Posted by XYZ926 at 02:26 PM : Oct 05, 2008


Please do not apply the label ''secular'' to ''all'' Democrats. I am have been a voting Democrat since 1958. I am also a very religious Christian, and will be one when I die.

[cbsblogger]

Difference between Jews and Muslums? The Jews have not flown planes into our buildings bringing horrific death to innocent civilians, they have not then cheered about it in their streets. They have not beheaded our reporters, and cheered about that. Make no mistake Mulumites, I don''''t like this BS coming from Isreal, but nothing has changed the fact that I want and will do and help everything and anyone that wants to rid the Earth of all of you. Men, women, and children. I don''''t know what you were trying to accomplish, but this is what you got - and trust me I am not alone.


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Posted by bailmeout1 at 12:29 PM : Oct 05, 2008
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1. But Jews did dance on the streets of Hoboken NJ after they filmed for the record the WTC collapse. At least that''s what they said on Israeli TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0hmhLycNyQ&feature=related

2. If they knew about the event (9-11) in advance then they were involved in it at least according to the above Israeli TV video.

I don''t trust anyone or any country that obviously benefits from such a tragic event, not to be an underlying player.

[xyz926]

Make no mistake, all persons run a continuous, rough calculation based upon their interest in money, *** and power. In this way, all persons are strategic actors. Religion is the great home of those actors who are lazy and fearful. Secular democracy is the great home to those actors who are diligent and brave. Dems could ignore zealots and prosper. But zealots must stir the pot for their living. Hate must have an object. It cannot exist in a vacuum. Some people always and all people sometimes are seeped in a brew of their own illusions.

[toolmangler-2009]

This is phony. A self-professed Christian doesn''t just state her beliefs. It is part of being Christian to crusade for those beliefs and change, as necessary, both people and institutions in society to conform.
Posted by amrt5016 at 11:20 AM : Oct 05, 2008



You really are clueless about ''Real'' Christianity. We are supposed to tell you about Jesus, not whip you into submission. Anybody that would do that is not a ''true'' christian. "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasars and unto God, that which is Gods" It means what it says, and says what it means. Before the pundits start claiming that "everything belongs to GOD, just remember that GOD put ''man'' in charge of the Earth in the beginning and basically told him that this was all mans domain, (the physical universe) and if man wanted anything else beyond that he would have to come to GOD to get it. Put your thinking caps on and see where that places you.

This is the second time I have posted this, Why am I being censored so much CBS?????

[bailmeout1]

Difference between Jews and Muslums? The Jews have not flown planes into our buildings bringing horrific death to innocent civilians, they have not then cheered about it in their streets. They have not beheaded our reporters, and cheered about that. Make no mistake Mulumites, I don''t like this BS coming from Isreal, but nothing has changed the fact that I want and will do and help everything and anyone that wants to rid the Earth of all of you. Men, women, and children. I don''t know what you were trying to accomplish, but this is what you got - and trust me I am not alone.

[bailmeout1]

This is phony...
--Posted by amrt5016 at 11:20 AM : Oct 05, 2008 Careful there, you are getting close to Obama territory.

[republic1776]

Ahhh.
The old day''s, nothing like a good old fashioned stoning

[lf1952]

So now Saudi and Israel are alike - both with versions of The Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. The government, and sponsoring Rabbis, should be very proud. Their country is copying fundamentalist Islam.

This only highlights that PM Olmert is correct - they need to withdraw to what was given them originally.

[nothappyatall]

"These breaches of purity and modesty endanger our community," said 38-year-old Elchanan Blau, defending the bearded, black-robed zealots. "If it takes fire to get them to stop, then so be it."

Oh yeah RIGHT, like burning down stores and beating women doesn''t endanger the community you moron???

[beehive21-2009]

All religions must be ban,when they start controlling people like this article speaks of.

Who would ever believe the Jews, act like this, or allow any of there friends or neighbors to act like this toward women or anyone else,after what Hitler did to them.It''s the same,Why are they acting or carrying out Hitlers evil ways ? You people need to gather up the Modesty police and hang them,before they come for you.

[amrt5016]

All she has ever done is state her beliefs.
Posted by bailmeout1 at 09:02 AM : Oct 05, 2008

This is phony. A self-professed Christian doesn''t just state her beliefs. It is part of being Christian to crusade for those beliefs and change, as necessary, both people and institutions in society to conform. Now, I might find that impulse reasonable if religious beliefs were supported by our knowledge and understanding of the physical universe. But they''re not. The uneducated and the stupid trying to control the world. Go figure.

[goosfraba2]

Born and raised a Southern Baptist with 58 years on this planet, I realized some decades ago that the three not-so-great religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are a farce. Their "laws" and beliefs were created during a time of suspicion and ignorance. It is irrational for modern-day men/women to follow concepts created by sheep-herders and bedouins who lived two to three thousand years ago. Weekly, bi-weekly, and daily propaganda through ritualized events stave off rational thinking and keep the flocks in line. It is unbelievable that they take pride in being so controlled.

Of the many human traits, fear and hate are the ones most instilled by these religions. They claim love but, it is their fear and hate which define them. I realized early on that it is their false, superior sense of being, controlled by fear which allows them to express the most vile of human traits ... hate. The beliefs and teachings of these religions LEGITIMIZE the expression of hate as it seems to satisfy some internal need to do so %u2026 perhaps a left over animal condition developed within an early Era/Epoch which overrides rational thinking. Regardless, these three religions should be outlawed.

[amrt5016]

If you don''t like the way a woman is dressed, why take it out on her? What about self-responsibility? All you have to do is don''t look. What''s so hard about that? Why should you dictate to the world around you? I bet you objections of attire can go the other way but I''ve never heard of a woman or even other man physically attacking a man dressed in a distasteful manner. Sometimes religious bigotry and sexism can be so intertwined.

[imredeemed-2009]

Modest Police?? Maybe not a bad idea for the US only not in the extreme like this. Did it ever occur to people that not all people want to see a woman''s cleevage, or a guys underwear at every turn?? I''m afraid modesty is a long forgotten trait that parents used to instill in thier kids. Parents used to be the "Modesty police", definitely not the case anymore!

[mbievtea]

The difference between Israel and Iran ... Israel has laws. These extremist Jews are nothing more than criminals. Israel should be heavy-handed in prosecuting as many as can with hard sentences.

[sslow-2009]

tuckerndfw
you obviously have no clue that being Jewish and being a Zionist are completely two different things altogether. Zionists fight for their state whether they are religious or not. Some zionists, although a very small minority, are ultra religious. Most ultra orthodox Jews are NOT real zionists! PLease get your facts right...

[bailmeout1]

From my perspective, organized religion often seems little more than an attempt to justify and institutionalize control of women. Why would any women voluntarily participate in organized religion? I mean, look at Sarah Palin, who has to look like Barbie doll and act like a cave man to be considered the best that religion has to offer. This is not natural, sisters! Why would a woman force herself into an unnatural role and live out her brief life that way to avoid being beaten and pepper sprayed, when we could just work together and in solidarity resist this BS?
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Posted by tngreen at 09:18 AM : Oct 05, 2008

Yeah, but Democratic women do not allow beliefs other than their own. Which results in halving their effectiveness. Plenty of women in the Palin crowds. Democratic women are not for womens rights - certainly not the right to choose.

[bailmeout1]

There is nothing good that the Bible ever told me to do, that the conscience given to me by God didn''t already tell me to do. Not murder, not steal, Love Thy neighbor, be kind to children, run into burning buildings to save strangers, conduct myself responsibly, those are all automatics.

[tngreen]

From my perspective, organized religion often seems little more than an attempt to justify and institutionalize control of women. Why would any women voluntarily participate in organized religion? I mean, look at Sarah Palin, who has to look like Barbie doll and act like a cave man to be considered the best that religion has to offer. This is not natural, sisters! Why would a woman force herself into an unnatural role and live out her brief life that way to avoid being beaten and pepper sprayed, when we could just work together and in solidarity resist this BS?