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G-7 Countries Condemn Russia's Actions In Georgia; Putin Slams U.S. For Using Military Ships
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- WHY are we importing chicken from Russia? We have enough space and resources to provide our own chicken. I say we start working on that now, Chicken Independence, and let Russia suffer for not being able to sell chicken to us anymore. With the cost of gas these days, HOW IN THE WORLD IS IS POSSIBLY FAVORABLE TO IMPORT CHICKEN FROM RUSSIA?????
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- If McSame wins he''''ll have to have his own war too so as not to be out done by father and son. (...) At his age he''''s got nothing to lose.
Posted by pirmin3 at 08:44 AM : Aug 27, 2008
That''s just what I thought too. McCain seems to be just like that. In some contries the president can''t be that age. Everyone is different, so it''s better not to risk... It can''t be that everyone be wise and balanced in their old age. - Reply to this comment
- 101 things to do before I die... #101 Get nuked by Russia
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- `Putin Slams U.S. For Using Military Ships?????`
Why Mr. Putin? A U.S. Coast Guard Cutter carrying valuable supplies is the right vessel under the `hostile` circumstances. This ship has just the right compliment of arms to ward off sea pirates and to keep its crew and cargo safe, not to mention the capability to defend itself against possible sabotage from potential terrorist! Gone are the days when ships carrying valuable cargo can sail unarmed. I disagree that the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter is a warship in the traditional definition and while it is armed and can carry out war functions, this is not what this type of ship is designed for and not its mission or intent. Actually when given the proper amount of thought and consideration the U.S. would be crazy to send an unarmed vessel into this situation, so this ship has just the right amount of defensive capability for this mission! - Reply to this comment
- Because its good to be part of Russia...
Posted by Mark19712 at 11:08 PM : Aug 27, 2008
I almost missed this one...a real beaut. You''re even more ignorant about this whole affair than I initially realized. - Reply to this comment
- All your bla bla blah....you know nothing. You would sell these people out, because you know nothing and don''''t want to learn.
Posted by Mark19712 at 11:08 PM : Aug 27, 2008
Uhh, maybe you should learn a thing about Abkhazia or S. Ossetia before you blather about. - Reply to this comment
- The U.S. should have been the very first nation to support the rights of the democratic, independent, freedom loving South Ossetians and Abkhazians.
The fact that 95% of South Ossetians voted in the last referendum to continue (since 1991) independence form Georgia, is apparantly meaningless to the commenters here, because you are too wrapped up in old cold war style thinking.
This is simply about 70,000 people in South Ossetia, and whether they should be arbitrarily denied basic human rights inside Georgia, or, eventually be unified with North Ossetia.
Yes, North Ossetia is part of Russia...why would they want to become part of Russia and not keep independence? Because its good to be part of Russia and not a repressed, brutally viciously repressed ethnic minority inside Georgia.
All your bla bla blah....you know nothing. You would sell these people out, because you know nothing and don''''t want to learn.
If you really believed in freedom, democracy, then you would have to consider what the people of South Ossetia want. What Abkhazians want.
You don''''t because its not about that, and you have no real values, to be frank.
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Posted by Mark19712
One of the best posts I have seen on here for a long time. Kudos Mark19712, Nice one. - Reply to this comment
- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had said his nation was "not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a Cold War."
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we''d have a helluva time spending them into submission this time around wouldn''t we now. - Reply to this comment
- WHAT THE HELL WE GOING TO DO WITH A ARMY OF HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUTS? THATS WHAT RUSSIA IS THINKING
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- The U.S. should have been the very first nation to support the rights of the democratic, independent, freedom loving South Ossetians and Abkhazians.
The fact that 95% of South Ossetians voted in the last referendum to continue (since 1991) independence form Georgia, is apparantly meaningless to the commenters here, because you are too wrapped up in old cold war style thinking.
This is simply about 70,000 people in South Ossetia, and whether they should be arbitrarily denied basic human rights inside Georgia, or, eventually be unified with North Ossetia.
Yes, North Ossetia is part of Russia...why would they want to become part of Russia and not keep independence? Because its good to be part of Russia and not a repressed, brutally viciously repressed ethnic minority inside Georgia.
All your bla bla blah....you know nothing. You would sell these people out, because you know nothing and don''t want to learn.
If you really believed in freedom, democracy, then you would have to consider what the people of South Ossetia want. What Abkhazians want.
You don''t because its not about that, and you have no real values, to be frank. - Reply to this comment
- The West Warns Russia To "Change Course"
Russia is changing course all right. No more apologizing while the neocrazies try to neutralize its military and exclude it from oil fields in the Caucasus.
You''d have to be really simple not to recognize this article for the agitprop it is. - Reply to this comment
- Poor Russia. Still haven''t learned from past mistakes. What a shame.
Oh yea, and Obama is just the man to handle this right? The famed Community Organizer now wants to lead the most powerful nation on earth with razor sharp community organizing skills (birthday planner or something like that) And the liberal media along with wingnuts from the moveon group are giving Barack Obama Messiah a free pass to the White House. We''re in for a real treat!!!!
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- Looks like the next cold war is going to be a hot one.
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- Tap, I still believe you%u2019re seeing things from every angle. Yes, Georgia fired the first shots in this conflict but the provocation began way before any of the actual hostilities. Russia has been provoking Georgia for years before Saakashvili and his revolution. Russia has been chomping at the bit for an excuse to get into Georgia.
No one in their right mind, Russians, Americans and Europeans included, sees a military conflict with Russia as even a remote possibility.
As far as using warships to deliver humanitarian aid, (again, you can fabricate a provocation out of thin air) it%u2019s the most expedient means of getting mass amounts of materiel anywhere. We did it in Indonesia and Burma. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by tapsettle at 09:29 PM : Aug 27, 2008
You seem to have misunderstood the gist of my comment. I was speaking of "anybody'' trying to provoke a war between these three countries in any configuration. I am a tool maker, and I learned my craft before computerized machines. I can make tools by hand, not many can any more and since I retired sometime ago, schools are not teaching ''basic metal working'' anymore. There will be no electronics working after WWIII. The EMPs of the nukes will destroy them - Reply to this comment
- Only a drooling baby or a fool would want to see a war between The USA and either Russia or China. remember what Einstein said. "I don''''t know what weapons the third World War will be fought with, but the fourth war will be fought with sticks and stones"
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Posted by ToolMangler
Better collect plenty of sticks and stones then because your ''fools'' are still provoking Russia, not least by the US sending humanitarian aid to Georgia via US warships, and the UK govt organising an EU ''anti-Russian counter aggression''. The US also just announced possible military aid to the same Georgian lunatic that started all this. Wouldn''t it be ironic if the biggest cause of world deforestation was the scrambling for sticks for post WW3 humans to fight each other with?? - Reply to this comment
- However, I completely agree with your other post re: US standing in the world, enigma of a 2nd term (given the distaster of the 1st), Bush and less evil dotted around him.
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Posted by tapsettle at 09:10 PM : Aug 27, 2008
Yeah, even a monkey can learn a trick or two.
But my whole point about Russia is that the day after the Soviet Union collapsed, they woke up and realized what a blunder they''d made. It didn''t take the threat of NATO expansion for them to begin coercing their newly independent neighbors. It started the morning after.
By the by, I don''t support Georgia''s entrance into NATO and I think Ukraine''s entrance will be put on hold. - Reply to this comment
- You know I have no idea whatsoever why you would want to live under Russian domination.
Good luck with that free speech thing.
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Posted by rave_on3
Of course I dont want to, hence my recognition that the ''west'' needs to stop provoking Russia, and the US people need to realise that THAT is what it is doing. The US govt already knows it is provoking Russia - a Russia in the EU is goodbye superpower US - but the US govt does NOT know that it is playing with certain fire, at a certain cost of millions of lives.
However, I completely agree with your other post re: US standing in the world, enigma of a 2nd term (given the distaster of the 1st), Bush and less evil dotted around him. - Reply to this comment
- OH NO I AM SURE RUSSIA IS SCARED!TO BAD THEY WILL FIGHT BACK UNLIKE IRAQ AND PROBABLY KICK OUR AZZ.
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- Russian Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned that NATO has already exhausted the number of forces it can have in the Black Sea, according to international agreements, and warned Western nations against sending more ships.
WHAT A MATTER ????FYI NATO WILL HAVE 100 BATLE SHIP AND SUB. IN THE BLACK SEA....SO LOOK UP IN THE SKY ONCE IN A WHILE WILL YAAA... - Reply to this comment
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