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NATO Demands Immediate Withdrawal From Georgia; U.N. Security Council Meets
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- Let me get this straight. NATO was never going to admit Georgia until it resolved its territorial disputes. Fair enough. Who wants a military ally that has unresolved border disputes with Russia? Bush, that''s who.
So Bush goes out of his way to support a 40 year old inexperienced Georgian president who decides to pick a fight with Russia thinking Bush will back him up. After all, 2000 Georgian troops were helping Bush out in Iraq.
Now Russia has taken over the two disputed territories right under Bush''s nose and there''s nothing Bush can do about it. He has zero support from NATO and does that surprise anyone? The bottom line is that in no small part due to master diplomat and strategist Bush, Georgia is lost. - Reply to this comment
- Ican see you are all a bunch of America hating commie Pinko liberals. Your hatred for Bush and the USA has led you into this deranged syndrome . I would advise you see
a counselor ASAP. Please do it for your own mental health. - Reply to this comment
- Putin has the love and admiration of his people and an 86% approval rating. Medvedev almost as high.
Posted by jgunther7
Interesting, that is not at all how my Russian friends describe the feelings of their family and friends still in Russia. Hmm, you must know more. - Reply to this comment
- South Ossetia is Georgia. Period.
Posted by BagdadsHere2
And Kosovo is? Your hypocracy is your trademark.
Posted by tapsettle
And you are a simpleton. Under the constitution of the former Yugoslavia, each of the 6 republics and two autonomous regions were granted certain specific rights, one such right was to secede from the union of Yugoslavia. Now while Tito was alive clearly that was not going to happen, but, with his death the instability and rise in Serb nationalism of the 1980s, that all changed. Kosovo was legally a part of Yugoslavia after World War II, not the Yugoslavian republic of Serbia. When Yugoslavia ceased to exist, Kosovo was well with in its rights legally to request it be acknowledged as an independent state. The two situations are very, very different. - Reply to this comment
- The same things we used to expel Russians from Afghanistan, some anti-aircraft missiles,RPG,IEDs,etc,etc
Posted by BagdadsHere2 at 08:33 PM : Aug 19, 2008
You fool. Dont you know the White house rules the entire world? If Russia doesnt pull back they will suffer the same humiliation they suffered in Afghanistan. We helped Taleban and Al-Qaeda to kick Russians ***** from Afghanistan why cant we do the same in Georgia?
Posted by BagdadsHere2 at 08:28 PM : Aug 19, 2008
We,we - and where are you ? - Reply to this comment
- By sending its 58th Army through the Roki tunnel into South Ossetia, Moscow hoped at the very least to deepen Nato divisions.
The opposite has happened. Instead of arguing that the crisis proved her point about the need for restraint, Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, has explicitly endorsed Georgia%u2019s bid for membership. France may still have its doubts. If so, they remain private. There are two main reasons for Nato%u2019s newfound unity. First, there is a strengthening consensus that Moscow would have acted with more restraint had Georgia already been in Nato, protected by its principle of collective security.
As one expert with long experience of the region put it yesterday: %u201CThe thought of the US Air Force on its way would have deterred even Vladimir Putin.%u201D
Secondly, the %u201Cfrozen%u201D conflicts in South Ossetia and Abkhazia that stood in the way of Georgian membership have, rightly or wrongly, unfrozen.
Moscow%u2019s coup is to have seized de facto control of these two tiny provinces. It has done so at huge cost to its diplomatic standing and may yet suffer serious economic isolation as a long-term result of the conflict.
http://tinyurl.com/5cqyqg - Reply to this comment
- Conolizza Rice and George Bush are losers. Putin has the love and admiration of his people and an 86% approval rating. Medvedev almost as high.
Posted by jgunther7
And with Bin Laden less hated in the world than Bush, I would agree it is a very sorry state of affairs that americans find themselves in. - Reply to this comment
- Wasted in Iraq, stalemated in Afghanistan, outmanoeuvred by the Iranians and booted out of Georgia by the Russkies, a broken domestic economy and a divided Nation. Conolizza Rice and George Bush are losers. Putin has the love and admiration of his people and an 86% approval rating. Medvedev almost as high.
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- South Ossetia is Georgia. Period.
Posted by BagdadsHere2
And Kosovo is? Your hypocracy is your trademark. - Reply to this comment
- This administration really thinks it can order Russia around like some coolie?
Posted by formrusmcsgt
I think the way the Russians have ignored the americans for the last 2 weeks is hilarious. Bush has done a hell of a job reducing US global clout to zilch. - Reply to this comment
- You fool. Dont you know the White house rules the entire world? If Russia doesnt pull back they will suffer the same humiliation they suffered in Afghanistan. We helped Taleban and Al-Qaeda to kick Russians ***** from Afghanistan why cant we do the same in Georgia?
Posted by BagdadsHere2 at 08:28 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Because your hero already has all our military resources knotted up in two unwinnable wars.
What''''s he going to use against Russia?
Pea shooters?
Hilarious.
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 08:30 PM : Aug 19, 2008
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The same things we used to expel Russians from Afghanistan, some anti-aircraft missiles,RPG,IEDs,etc,etc - Reply to this comment
- Russia is just trying to reclaim their former status as a superpower by demonstrating that they can ignore the UN too and invade a sovereign nation like Georgia just like the other superpower ignored the UN. They better watch their step in Atlanta though.....those people are not putting up with any shenanagans.
Posted by noseonurface
It is simply ignorant to try and compare the Iraq situation to Georgia, the entire situation is completely different, one has nothing at all to do with the other. - Reply to this comment
- And according to data available from NATO as of April 1, 2008, 41 countries, NATO states and partner nations, had troops on the ground.
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- Russia is just trying to reclaim their former status as a superpower by demonstrating that they can ignore the UN too and invade a sovereign nation like Georgia just like the other superpower ignored the UN. They better watch their step in Atlanta though.....those people are not putting up with any shenanagans.
Posted by noseonurface at 08:27 PM : Aug 19, 2008
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No,No,No. Russia is just trying to rebuild the Soviet Union. South Ossetia is Georgia. Period. - Reply to this comment
- You fool. Dont you know the White house rules the entire world? If Russia doesnt pull back they will suffer the same humiliation they suffered in Afghanistan. We helped Taleban and Al-Qaeda to kick Russians ***** from Afghanistan why cant we do the same in Georgia?
Posted by BagdadsHere2 at 08:28 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Because your hero already has all our military resources knotted up in two unwinnable wars.
What''s he going to use against Russia?
Pea shooters?
Hilarious. - Reply to this comment
- The White House made clear it expected Russia to move faster.
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This administration really thinks it can order Russia around like some coolie?
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 08:24 PM : Aug 19, 2008
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You fool. Dont you know the White house rules the entire world? If Russia doesnt pull back they will suffer the same humiliation they suffered in Afghanistan. We helped Taleban and Al-Qaeda to kick Russians ***** from Afghanistan why cant we do the same in Georgia? - Reply to this comment
- spanish piulled out years ago
And exactly how many NATO countries have charged into Afghanistan ?? I''''''''ll bet it''''''''s less than HALF of the NATO countries-
Posted by causeway_m at 08:01 PM : Aug 19, 2008
well said
Posted by whitemale08
24 out of 26 still have troops on the ground according to latest figures. Spain withdrew its coalition forces from Iraq. - Reply to this comment
- Russia is just trying to reclaim their former status as a superpower by demonstrating that they can ignore the UN too and invade a sovereign nation like Georgia just like the other superpower ignored the UN. They better watch their step in Atlanta though.....those people are not putting up with any shenanagans.
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- The White House made clear it expected Russia to move faster.
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This administration really thinks it can order Russia around like some coolie? - Reply to this comment
- Afghanistan is for the big players. There are going to be a lot of profits to be made, but it is going to require sacrifice.
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Posted by InTheShade at 08:18 PM : Aug 19, 2008"
Sacrifice - don''t see the americans making any sacrifie - they''re too busy hiding in their trailer parks in cesspits like alabummy - Reply to this comment
