Comments on: U.S.: Iran Response On Nukes Unacceptable

Sanctions Against Tehran Believed More Likely Following Reply From Iran Regarding West's Incentives Offer

[whitemale08]

With the world becoming smaller, everything is changing. The world is more tied together than ever before. Languages, cultures, currenicies, and power bases are all adjusting to the fluid conditions that the world is going through.


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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:58 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

the problem is that we have to be more creative in how live as human beings in this world.

We cannot consume every tree and every drop of oil on this planet or we will have no planet left.

We have to engineer a system that allows us to pass on to the next generation permanent construction of raw materials like building homes that last with handmade furniture that lasts.

Of course we would have to eliminate this whole idea of "disposable capitalism" where the incentive is to make money once a product is diposed of.

[pirmin3]

"But, if Congress won''''t act to stop Bush,..."

The only thing congress is good for is alternating their thumbs between mouth and A$$hole. Complete waste of space.

[stn_sage]

Remember what happened in Germany in a similar situation when Hitler scapegoated the Jews because of hyper-inflation and real suffering.
Jews have to be careful not to overplay their hand and assume that we are going to automaticly back the Israelis in striking Iran.
Posted by whitemale08 at 12:55 AM : Aug 06, 2008
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I wonder if you realize how close to the truth you have come?! It is NO coincidence that the situation parallels something out of World War II!

Yes, I agree. The American public may very well NOT want to support the Israelis! But, if Congress won''t act to stop Bush, he''ll pretty much do what he wants, won''t he?!

Seventy-six(76) percent of the public has wanted change for months---and Bush/GOP politicians could have acted with the majority to achieve it, but haven''t---so, where''s the change?! There isn''t any.

You ASSUME too much! Congress and the President to act and act responsibly, DON''T COUNT ON IT!!!

[ajmarine111]

The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) has published a report that draws attention to the sudden interest in nuclear energy by 13 countries across the Middle East.

"This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there," said IISS Director General Dr John Chipman.

Until this is cleared up, the suspicion will be that Iran has been interested in nuclear weaponisation



"Notwithstanding the legitimate energy and economic motivations behind this sudden region-wide interest in nuclear power, political factors also play an important role...

"The single most salient political factor... is Iran''s development of dual-use nuclear technologies, which motivates at least some of its neighbours to seek fledgling nuclear capabilities of their own.

"If Tehran''s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran''s neighbours.

"A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ''opacity'' or ambiguity... as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents."


http://tinyurl.com/655kly

[ajmarine111]

Posted by whitemale08 at 01:52 AM : Aug 06, 2008


With the world becoming smaller, everything is changing. The world is more tied together than ever before. Languages, cultures, currenicies, and power bases are all adjusting to the fluid conditions that the world is going through.

[ajmarine111]

We definitely need a global government but the problem is that the two countries that are behind the U.N. and is crucial for it to function are right now so corrupt by their own financial interests that it''''s no different then politicians in Washington being corrupted by Wall Street and the "City of London".


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Posted by whitemale08 at 01:45 AM : Aug 06, 2008


And people keep saying we need to go before the UN or we need to get the support of the UN before we do something when they have their own agenda that they seem to think comes first.

I think the UN is a joke.

[whitemale08]

I want to be damned if we don''''t for awhile.



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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:46 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

I share your angst.

Right now the global financial system is coming down. Little do people know that the world''s banking insitituions are crumbling before our very eyes because all "fiat currencies" and their credit systems come to an end usually within a 100 year period which is how long it has been since the creation of the Federal Reserve System back in 1913.

[ajmarine111]

I remember no one calling for the US to act as "policeman", as those countries had committed no crime against us.

Posted by brianbwb at 01:33 AM : Aug 06, 2008



Again, I don''t know what goes on behind closed doors or what the policies of ours were that drove us to do what we did. It just seems like we stick our nose in everybodies business all over the world and we are damned if we do and damned if we don''t.

I want to be damned if we don''t for awhile.

[whitemale08]

wish the UN had more power, and was willing to use it, and we could just step back and let the world take care of itself. I don''''t see that happening anything soon and the world keeps looking at us to do something. I just hope whoever gets in the White House does what they think is the best for the country and the world.


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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:40 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

We definitely need a global government but the problem is that the two countries that are behind the U.N. and is crucial for it to function are right now so corrupt by their own financial interests that it''s no different then politicians in Washington being corrupted by Wall Street and the "City of London".

[ajmarine111]

If you look at what has happened most of the crisis after WWII have been manufactured mostly by the British who have a vested interest in maintaining this global financial empire called "The City of London" and "Wall Street".

Posted by whitemale08 at 01:36 AM : Aug 06, 2008


I agree, most of the Middle East problems can be traced back to them and Europian powers.

[whitemale08]

I do remember however, that in cases like apartheid South Africa, Rhodesia, Sudan, Rwanda, and many others, when the world called, we were either not interested, or supporting those responsible for the problems.


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Posted by brianbwb at 01:33 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

Exactly and most of those countries engulfed in conflict had no problem at all until the West wanted to "help" these countries.

The genocide that takes place are mostly orchestrated by the British to install "private central banks" to enslave their populations through debt and industry.

[ajmarine111]

I would say that sitting down and giving them an honest hearing of their grievances, and frank discussions on what can be done about them has never been tried, and Mr. Obama''''s expression of willingness to talk with our adversaries is indeed fresh,


Posted by brianbwb at 01:24 AM : Aug 06, 2008


Morning brian,

I don''t know what has been tried or said, but I would agree that some of our countries past policies have not been the best, however, I do believe we have done more good in the world than bad.

I wish the UN had more power, and was willing to use it, and we could just step back and let the world take care of itself. I don''t see that happening anything soon and the world keeps looking at us to do something. I just hope whoever gets in the White House does what they think is the best for the country and the world.

[whitemale08]

seems like ever time we do, and some crisis man made or natural happens, someone comes along and says, "Where''''s the USA? They have to do something". After WWII we were the only game in town because the rest of the world had been blown up. Now, the rest of the world has caught up to us and I think someone else should step up and be the police and leave us alone if they don''''t like us.




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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:22 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

I agree, we should of stopped being the police of the world after the WWII.

I really don''t remember other people asking us to fix their problems after WWII.

If you look at what has happened most of the crisis after WWII have been manufactured mostly by the British who have a vested interest in maintaining this global financial empire called "The City of London" and "Wall Street".

England''s only viable industry is weapons manufacturing through the BAE so they only make money where there''s conflict the rest of their power comes from finance and the spread of fiat monetary systems.

We on the other hand are just law enforcement for the British East India Company Financial Empire.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Now, the rest of the world has caught up to us and I think someone else should step up and be the police and leave us alone if they don''''t like us." Posted by AJMarine111

I understand your point, but must say that in the cases of countries from Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, up to Venezuela, Iraq, Afghanistan and soon Iran, I remember no one calling for the US to act as "policeman", as those countries had committed no crime against us.

I do remember however, that in cases like apartheid South Africa, Rhodesia, Sudan, Rwanda, and many others, when the world called, we were either not interested, or supporting those responsible for the problems.

[brianbwb-2009]

"...just wonder what Obama thinks he can come up with that is new and hasn''''t been offered before that will make Iran stop and change its ways,.........if someone is of the belief that Iran needs to change its ways."
Posted by AJMarine111

Well it is not new, but since we haven''t bothered to hear the concerns of Iran ever since we overthrew their leader and installed Reza Pahlavi, and have done nothing but vilify and demonize them ever since they took their own country back, I would say that sitting down and giving them an honest hearing of their grievances, and frank discussions on what can be done about them has never been tried, and Mr. Obama''s expression of willingness to talk with our adversaries is indeed fresh, these people are our adversaries not because of what they have done to us, but rather what we have done to them.

[ajmarine111]

We are the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon and yet are the first to tell the rest of the world not to have one.

Posted by whitemale08 at 01:14 AM : Aug 06, 2008



I don''t know how old you are, but all my life, we have been trying to be the policeman of the world and to tell you the truth, I''ve never liked that much and I think we should stop. But it seems like ever time we do, and some crisis man made or natural happens, someone comes along and says, "Where''s the USA? They have to do something". After WWII we were the only game in town because the rest of the world had been blown up. Now, the rest of the world has caught up to us and I think someone else should step up and be the police and leave us alone if they don''t like us.

[whitemale08]

I don''''t care if Iran has the bomb on not, but everything is coming do to either Iran is going to make a bomb and something must be done or everyone else has a bomb why can''''t Iran.

I just wonder what Obama thinks he can come up with that is new and hasn''''t been offered before that will make Iran stop and change its ways,.........if someone is of the belief that Iran needs to change its ways.



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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:10 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

...this is why this whole notion of "American exceptionalism" constantly touted by junkyard dog Rush Limbaugh is so stupid.

But not only stupid but dangerous.

It''s way too dangerous to think that we are the exception on this planet. People around the world would naturally reject this.

This whole idea of "American Exceptionalism" must be regarded as "stupid" and must be rejected immediately and at all costs.

Rush Limbaugh stupid dogmatic ideologies are going to get us all killed on this planet and Rush Limbaugh as as whole should be rejected and shunned.

[whitemale08]

I don''''t care if Iran has the bomb on not, but everything is coming do to either Iran is going to make a bomb and something must be done or everyone else has a bomb why can''''t Iran.

I just wonder what Obama thinks he can come up with that is new and hasn''''t been offered before that will make Iran stop and change its ways,.........if someone is of the belief that Iran needs to change its ways.



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Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:10 AM : Aug 06, 2008--

I agree to a certain extent.

But this is the dilemma that the Oppenheimer Group said mankind would face when they developed the nuclear bomb.

We humans can be so stupid sometimes into thinking that we are exempt from consequences from our own actions.

We are the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon and yet are the first to tell the rest of the world not to have one.

That is how a evil arrogant dictator behaves and I''m not saying we are one but in the eyes of our fellow human beings we are.

[ajmarine111]

Posted by whitemale08 at 01:02 AM : Aug 06, 2008


I don''t care if Iran has the bomb on not, but everything is coming do to either Iran is going to make a bomb and something must be done or everyone else has a bomb why can''t Iran.

I just wonder what Obama thinks he can come up with that is new and hasn''t been offered before that will make Iran stop and change its ways,.........if someone is of the belief that Iran needs to change its ways.

[whitemale08]

Human beings are not willing to sacrifice their loved ones by freezing and starving to death so that some politicians can appease a certain constituency.

If politicians ignore this fact then they must anticipate this with the plan of Marshall Law.

This is why the times we are living in are very very strange. There is something more of an agenda behind the lunacy we see today.