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- ... they are staying in power by not allowing moderates to run in elections! Until Iran returns to normal Democratic elections and the will of the Iranian people is realized I doubt if Israel will give up their `alleged` nuclear weapons. Officially despite all the uproar over Israel`s nuclear weapons the fact is it`s still speculation! ... Iran on the other hand is engaged in the biggest gamble of its existence...!
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Posted by tbweb at 02:56 AM : Aug 06, 2008
-Again, we agree!
Most often, there is no smoke without fire. Israel is said to have nukes and Iran is said to prepare for them. The speculation is at same level, well little more in favor of Israel... At least now Israel would think twice before it attacks Iran and vice-versa.
Isn''t a powerful deterrent, for a while, at least?...
-I don''t see a direct confrontation between Israel and Iran. Too distant to be belligerently confrontational. They work now at hating each other by proxies; fair game. They can keep them at bay with Hezbollah. Lebanese government just conceded Iran''s desire of Hezbollah keeping its weapons... I guess with a tacit agreement by the WhiteHouse, which is tired of Israel''s breaching of most recent cease-fire accord with military flights over Lebanese border, airspace...
-p.s. would you vote for the return of British Monarchy in the States? I doubt it! Or maybe you''d prefer the return of the corrupt Shah! - Reply to this comment
- ===I do not understand why we take so much s.h.i.t.,from Iran.They posses no nuclear warheads,or even a missle they will reach this continent.They have bullied us since Ronald Reagan no longer was President.===
Posted by swwils
They bullied us? In 1953, the CIA, under the operation "Ajax", overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and replaced the leadership with the much hated Shaw. So, what did we expect? Love and kisses from Iran? - Reply to this comment
- I do not understand why we take so much s.h.i.t.,from Iran.They posses no nuclear warheads,or even a missle they will reach this continent.They have bullied us since Ronald Reagan no longer was President.I say open the earth at Terhan,and sink those Ayatollas into the burning depths of hell.Give the decent Iranians so many days to vacate the area,then cruise,and Tomahawk the daylights out of that region.It can''t be farmed anyway so turn all that sand into glass.Destroy the old timers that believe in all that stupid 5000 year old ***,and move on with it.It is comming anyway.as soon as they can strike they will attack Tel-avivWhich will bring us into it,Israel is one of our closes allies.I say strike first.Dont let them achieve nukes.
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- Live Long and Prosper.
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Posted by AJMarine111 at 03:02 AM : Aug 06, 2008--
same...have a good morning. - Reply to this comment
- When the designors of the present day financial system created the Federal Reserve System, they created with the "dynamic" or "incentive" to be that the "central banks founders" never take the risk but take the profits and the risks are shared and socialized by the public.
Posted by whitemale08 at 02:49 AM : Aug 06, 2008
The Federal Reserve System is what I call a bankers "Bank". They help with money supplies and regulating interest rates. Stock values and IPO''s deal with Wall Street don''t they?
Anyway whitemale, to me, this is off the article and I can''t make myself get interested in it. Have a good morning and I will talk to you another time.
Live Long and Prosper. - Reply to this comment
- Iran would be accepting Israel as a Jewish entity if it were not menacing its own existence.
Posted by trishab4 at 08:01 PM : Aug 05, 2008,,,
This may be true for the moderates inside Iran but not true for Iranian hardliners, and Iranian hardliners are the ones in power, and not only are the Iranian hardliners in power, they are staying in power by not allowing moderates to run in elections! Until Iran returns to normal Democratic elections and the will of the Iranian people is realized I doubt if Israel will give up their `alleged` nuclear weapons. Officially despite all the uproar over Israel`s nuclear weapons the fact is it`s still speculation! Israel may be perpetrating the biggest con game on the planet and may not even have nuclear weapons or at least not in the quantity suspected. Israel has never tested a nuclear weapon although I`m not naive, I suspect Israel is nuclear armed, after all Jewish Albert Einstein would have shared his atomic secrets and know how with Israel. Iran on the other hand is engaged in the biggest gamble of its existence, betting that it will be allowed to get away with creating weapons grade nuclear power without being attacked, if I were a betting Iranian I wouldn`t go there! - Reply to this comment
- ...to perpetuate that system you must have the "bond market".
The "bond market" guarantees that the losses and risks are socialized by the pension fund holders and 401k owners.
So that means when we ourselves see that Star Bucks for example is no longer profitable enough to hold in our pension funds then we "dump it".
That means in the end "we are the onese that will destroy ourselves" because our whole financial system is built that way.
This is happening now by the way which is why what''s happening to the economy is worse then a recession even worse then a depression. - Reply to this comment
- I meant "Whoever" is at fault.
Sorry. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by terrorislamv at 02:41 AM : Aug 06, 2008
However is at fault for it, it''s past time to stop. - Reply to this comment
- Here you are talking about "Bonds" and "value of stock" and IPO (Initial Public Offering ) all in the same sentance as though they are the same Financial tools. I guess maybe it is to late in the morning for me to think this hard about money issues.
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Posted by AJMarine111 at 02:43 AM : Aug 06, 2008--
it is kind of complicated on the surface but actually pretty simple when you understand the "dynamics" of the system.
My point is: Every system whether it''s the solar system or a certain financial system have "motivators" or "dynamics" built in its design.
When the designors of the present day financial system created the Federal Reserve System, they created with the "dynamic" or "incentive" to be that the "central banks founders" never take the risk but take the profits and the risks are shared and socialized by the public. - Reply to this comment
- you are describing the social security ponzi/pyramid scheme,,, non sustainable,,,
capitalism is sustainable,,, as history has proved,,, all other systems have failed,,,
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Posted by terrorislamv at 02:37 AM : Aug 06, 2008--
you''re right but I''m also saying that we don''t have a true "market capitalism" system because we have a Federal Reserve System.
The Federal Reserve System "creates capital" out of thin air. This is socialism for the private cartel bankers because only these founding members of the Federal Reserve System have the power to "underwrite".
Everyone else has to work a long period of time to "accumalate capital" to start a business or to purchase basic necessities.
We cannot compete against the bankers unless we participate in a "counter mafia" like the unions. - Reply to this comment
- The problem is that the "supply side" economic model is unsustainable because it requires the "subscription" of the consumer for a constant stream of investors on Wall Street. That "dynamic" automaticly makes the "capital created" disposable; always looking for the next idea to "underwrite" and "monetize".
Posted by whitemale08 at 02:33 AM : Aug 06, 2008
But, isn''t this how all stock investments or bond investments work? People are looking to make money and will go with whatever fits their financial plans.
"The "bond market" requires that first the underwriters create an IPO which allows the underwriters to instantly monetize their projected "value" of the stock."
Here you are talking about "Bonds" and "value of stock" and IPO (Initial Public Offering ) all in the same sentance as though they are the same Financial tools. I guess maybe it is to late in the morning for me to think this hard about money issues. - Reply to this comment
- you do not like the usa active in the world,,, BLAME THE DEMONIC-RATS,,, GOP has a long history of isolationism,,,
Posted by terrorislamv at 02:32 AM : Aug 06, 2008
I think there is enough blame to go around for both parties. - Reply to this comment
- You''''re losing me here whitemale, I have a BS in Business, but I don''''t know what you are getting at.
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Posted by AJMarine111 at 02:23 AM : Aug 06, 2008--
what I''m saying is that the way the financial system is engineered is called the "bond market".
The "bond market" requires that first the underwriters create an IPO which allows the underwriters to instantly monetize their projected "value" of the stock.
The "value" of that stock is based upon how long the "business model" or "business plan" projects the lifespan and scope of the profits of that business.
The underwriters monetize that "speculation" but leaves it up to the rest of the bond holders whether pension funds or 401k to take the risk on that "speculation".
This is all called "supply side" economics where the "supply" is supplied first and that in of itself will create "demand".
The problem is that the "supply side" economic model is unsustainable because it requires the "subscription" of the consumer for a constant stream of investors on Wall Street. That "dynamic" automaticly makes the "capital created" disposable; always looking for the next idea to "underwrite" and "monetize". - Reply to this comment
- The U.S. HAS done more good than bad, but the problem is that they all conveniently forget the "good".
Posted by erasmus81 at 02:23 AM : Aug 06, 2008
Bless you. - Reply to this comment
- Maybe the world needs to be taught a lesson.
Posted by erasmus81 at 02:23 AM : Aug 06, 2008
The US needs to put a "Gone Fishin, back in about twenty years" sign up for the rest of the world and lets see what happens without us. If they get alone fine without us, then we can just keep on fishin. - Reply to this comment
- this whole idea of "disposable capitalism" is stupid and requires a "subscription model" that can be monetized instantly by private banking cartels and then left up to society to deal with its wasteful consequences.
Posted by whitemale08 at 02:15 AM : Aug 06, 2008
You''re losing me here whitemale, I have a BS in Business, but I don''t know what you are getting at. - Reply to this comment
- "I do believe we have done more good in the world than bad." Posted by AJMarine111
The U.S. HAS done more good than bad, but the problem is that they all conveniently forget the "good".
"It just seems like we stick our nose in everybodies business all over the world and we are damned if we do and damned if we don''''t."
That''s right. They are all *******'' and whining, but if the U.S. doesn''t come through for them in a crisis, then they will REALLY be *******''. So no, you can''t win. Maybe the world needs to be taught a lesson. - Reply to this comment
- THE WORLD WILL NOT MISS YOU,,,
hahaha
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Posted by terrorislamv at 02:13 AM : Aug 06, 2008--
speak for yourself you "suicide bomber".
I don''t want my parents to freeze this winter because they can''t afford their heating bills because of your lust for warmongering. - Reply to this comment
- this whole idea of "disposable capitalism" is stupid and requires a "subscription model" that can be monetized instantly by private banking cartels and then left up to society to deal with its wasteful consequences.
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