Comments on: China's Olympic Hopes Take A Beating

Earthquake, Tibetan Riots, Foreign Criticism Have Dampened China's Olympic Spirit, Image

[gobluesstl]

CBSnewsrocks ...What? Are you trying to compare the American Indian, to the Atrocities done by China to it''s people . Well lets start by saying it''s not 1860 .It''s 2008 , and I''d say that we''ve come a long way since then . Also , why would you compare America''s war in Iraq with genocide ? I am an American veteran of the Cold War and of the war on terror . I don''t believe I''ve ever committed genocide or slaughter of innocents .I''ve seen American soldiers and our allies ,locked in a struggle for the hearts and minds of a generation , I have seen our enemies slaughter innocents , I have also seen them commit genocide . You really should educate your self , before you spout your psyco-babble all over the planet . You have NO right to judge what is happening in the middle east ...Unless youve been there . And it''s painfully obvious that you haven''t.......

[cbsnewsrocks]

The energy we have is best invested in lifting up the millions of those in live in crushing poverty as a result of Western colonization of the Americas than in pointing fingers at what happens thousands of miles away across the ocean.

[cbsnewsrocks]

Of the "atrocities" alleged against the United States in Iraq is allegedly stated, with exaggeration, as follows: "''Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler nor of Mussolini'' ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament%u2019s human rights commission on Bush%u2019s genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28, originally reported in the Sunday Times of Australia, since withdrawn." See: http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqatrocities.html#ATROCITIES

If one asks those who criticize Americans which country has most violated human rights throughout history, it is an unfortunate (and untrue) opinion that is often expressed stating that the United States is that country. Such exaggerations, of course, should not give lease to critics of China to engage in similarly styled exaggerations, although it is would be difficult to dispute that China''s current regime is, in fact, authoritarian.

Further, regarding the aspirations of humanistic Americans, charity begins at home. First let''s clean up the conditions in our own Native American reservations and, a bit further off in the Americas, the terrible plight of indigenous peoples in countries south of our border. As a country and an interconnected region, we have far more in common and far more responsibility to fellow occupants of this continent than we do to anyone in Asia, Tibetan or Chinese.

[yongamerica]

Communist Chinese Politicians are working hard to get the message out to others not to politicize the Olympic games. Yet the Communist Chinese are working on a huge political campaign based on the Olympics trying to sell Communist China.

It is not free, nor is it open minded. China''s boarders are it''s prison walls and every Chinese citizen is treated as a criminal and a prisoner, even those that have been chosen to live in the international production zones and the official tourist locations.

[gobluesstl]

China is the worlds greatest oxy-moron . Their treatment of peoples most basic human rights is dispicible . They are so afraid that the world will see them for what they really are . If the Chinese really want to impress the world , then maybe they should start acting like a world leader . Free their people of the chains of totalitarian ism . DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR POLLUTION PROBLEM .(not that most western countries don''t have pollution problems either) However China''s pollution is at apoctoliptic proportions .China ..if you think the world is going to accept and respect you because you threw a big party , and built some big glitzy venues .Then your insane . HOW ABOUT TACKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR A CHANGE . FOR SOMETHING......ANYTHING.....ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!!

[cbsnewsrocks]

Urumqi suffers from the fact that it appears no Western airlines service it. The sole major non-Chinese airline servicing that city seems to be Korean Air. One must also consider the infrastructure. How many major hotels are there in that city?

[cbsnewsrocks]

Various government have supported countries whose leaders have committed horrific acts against their own people. Saddam Hussein, for example, was for a long time supported by the United States government even though -- to put it mildly -- he was hardly an angel.

It seems that there are interests who are conveniently bashing China for doing things that many other countries have done throughout the years. I''ll cite one example of a country many believe is at the frontfront of human rights that has nevertheless sent troops out that have fired on peaceful protestors on a college campus. Google "Kent State Massacre" and you''ll find out which one.

Let''s be more even-handed in our criticism of China. Its regime is tyrannical, to be sure, but there are other things about the country one should be aware of. Just as the United States cannot be judged solely by its actions in its quarter-century war in Vietnam and its current quagmire in Iraq, so, too, China cannot be judged solely by Tiananmen Square (1989) or Tibet (2008).

[lloydbest1]

"By the way,
I think the choice of Beijing as the host city was done by voting, not just from western countries, but also many developing countries. It is a "democratic" process.
You may not like the result, but you have to respect it. It is a sport event for all countries, not just for a few developed countries." Posted by toxinb at 09:14 AM : Aug 03, 2008

Yeah, maybe....But why wasn''t a relatively pollution free and thriving metropolis such as Urumqi even considered? It''s not that hard to get to.

[hypnotoad72]

Rangdrol --- China has had MFN status for far long before 2000.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/may97/mfn_5-19.html

And I quote: "PRESIDENT CLINTON: I have decided, as all my predecessors have since 1980, to extend Most Favored Nation status to China for the coming year. Every Republican and Democratic President since 1980 has made the same decision. This simply means that we extend to China the same normal trade treatment that virtually every other country on earth receives from the United States. We believe it''s the best way to integrate China further into the family of nations and to secure our interest and our ideals..."

China is a country where they bring people out into the streets and shoot them in the head; they do that to their own. The Tibetans and Muslim minorities, and others, suffer the same hostility, torture, and imprisonment. The US and Canada are both responsible, in part, for not trying harder years ago to curb or outright outlaw these actions. Suppression of Buddhist practice, the kidnapping of a six year old boy and his family and their imprisonment in...1995, the torture and use of machetes and dogs on Tibetan nuns and monks, this is China''s idea of "peace". China is a Communist country: that says it all. Instead of granting them a permanent "Most Favoured Nation" status in 2000, the US should have put it''s foot down. I am an American, but given the atrocities we as Americans committed against the First Nations, and against African Americans, Jews, and gay men and women, it is clear that America''s real interest is in financial gain, at any cost, even if it means turning away from the bloodbath of Communist China. Fortunately, many humanistic Americans do not agree with those who wield power. Hopefully we can make a change in 2008.