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[dumbocrat]

Are Volcanoes Melting Arctic?
By INVESTOR''S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, June 30, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Climate Change: While the media scream that man-made global warming is making the North Pole ice-free, another possible cause is as old as the Earth itself. They just have to look deeper.

The WHOI researchers found that evidence of a series of strong quakes and eruptions as big as the one that buried the ancient city of Pompeii took place in 1999 along the Gakkel Ridge, an underwater mountain range snaking 1,100 miles from the northern tip of Greenland to Siberia.

Their first glimpse of the ocean floor 13,000 feet beneath the Arctic ice through visual and sonar images showed an ocean valet filled with flat-topped volcanoes over a mile wide and hundreds of feet high that remain active. They''re not like Mount St. Helens or Krakatoa, but more like the less bombastic, oozing Kilauea variety that slowly built the Hawaiian Islands.

Robert Sohn, WHOI geophysicist, lead author and chief scientist of the July 27, 2007, Arctic Gakkel Vents Expedition, estimates that exploding mixtures of lava and gas were expelled at speeds of more than 500 meters a second.

Sohn says the large volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

[dumbocrat]

What about NOAA??? Are the idiots as well??

Scientists at NOAA''s Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory have put together a chart showing Arctic ice relatively stable until a precipitous decline began in 1999 %u2014 the very year the Arctic eruptions started.

[missingamerica]

At the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, hosted by the Heartland Institute, ...

Posted by Dumbocrat at 07:23 AM : Jul 08, 2008

lollll...you''re copying and pasting something produced by the "Heartland Institute", Republi-con?

FYI, for all of you who don''t know those shysters:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

You can buy any opinion you want from them...

[dumbocrat]

Posted by MCVet at 07:23 AM : Jul 08, 2008

I know you libs can''t read or write well, so i will explain.

The Gakel ridge is not 1 volcano. It is a series of volcanoes hundreds of miles long where the earth plates are seperating. By the way Volcanoes account for 97% of all Greenhouse gases. This NEW discovery proves that this ridge got active about 10 years ago.

[dumbocrat]

At the other end of Earth, we''re told the Larsen B ice shelf on the western side of Antarctica is collapsing. That part is warming and has been for decades. But it comprises just 2% of the continent. The rest is cooling.

At the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, hosted by the Heartland Institute, keynote speaker Patrick Michaels of the Cato Institute and the University of Virginia debunked claims of "unprecedented" melting of Arctic ice. He showed how Arctic temperatures were warmer during the 1930s and the vast majority of Antarctica is indeed cooling.

Earth is not a museum, but a geologically active place that reminds us frequently how relatively puny our activities are. The WHOI''s voyage to the bottom of the sea shows it is climate alarmists who are skating on thin ice

AlGore deserves the Nobel price, because he found a way to profit from this.

[mcvet]

BAN THE VOLCANOES!

Posted by Dumbocrat at 07:01 AM : Jul 08, 2008

What grade did you get through in school? Honest?? Your lack of basic knowledge of even simple things is lacking so badly, it would be funny IF it weren''t so sad. Now it has been CLEARLY documented over the last 10-15 years that the Ice Cap at the North Pole has been slowly melting. What does THIS poor uneducated loser point to as a fault? A Valcano! Yep that''s right folks we have had an eruption of 15 YEARS now that is melting the Ice Cap. Wow! Can you imagine anyone buying a 15 YEAR eruption?? THAT is REALLY REALLY stupid!! Sieg Heil Bush

[missingamerica]

Do ya''ll get the impression that right-wingnuts like "Dumbocrat" are the kind who deny having gonorrhea no matter their symptoms on the basis that "they couldn''t because they were always on top"?

[dumbocrat]

Scientists at NOAA''s Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory have put together a chart showing Arctic ice relatively stable until a precipitous decline began in 1999 %u2014 the very year the Arctic eruptions started.

Icebergs breaking away and polar bears supposedly drowning are good theater, but they do not reflect reality. In April, the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) published a study, based on last September''s data, showing Arctic ice has shrunk from 13 million square kilometers to just 3 million.

What the WWF didn''t mention was that by March of this year the Arctic ice had recovered to 14 million square kilometers and that ice-cover around the Bering Strait and Alaska was at its highest level ever recorded.

Ice freezes. Ice melts. That''s what ice does.

[dumbocrat]

The paper, which was co-authored by 22 investigators from nine institutions in four countries, was published in the June 26 issue of the journal Nature.

Robert Sohn, WHOI geophysicist, lead author and chief scientist of the July 27, 2007, Arctic Gakkel Vents Expedition, estimates that exploding mixtures of lava and gas were expelled at speeds of more than 500 meters a second.
Sohn says the large volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere

[mcvet]

Which explains why Al Gore%u2019s carbon footprint is big enough to fill 20 men. He knows that what he peddles is snake oil.

Posted by Dumbocrat at 07:10 AM : Jul 08, 2008

It is absolutely AMAZING how stupid some people are!! Even his Fuhrer now admits that Gore was right and what does this simple minded Nazi do? Attacks the Nobel Prize Winner! Yeah Sparky just keep up the denial and excuses... you are gaining ground.... toward that padded cell!! SIEG HEIL BUSH

[dumbocrat]

Ongoing eruptions
The volcanic events at Gakkel Ridge were not a one-off, the team says, and could be ongoing. Similar but smaller explosions were detected by seismometers mounted on the Arctic ice more than two years after the 1999 eruption and the rock fragments observed are of different ages.

"It opens the door to a lot of things that we didn''t suspect could happen," says David Clague of the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute, who was not involved in the research.

Gakkel Ridge is the slowest spreading ridge on Earth. Reves-Sohn and his team believe ultra-slow-spreading ridges create the ideal conditions for deep explosions because they give the CO2 enough time to accumulate into a single chamber.

He says the CO2 also may contribute to shallow-water explosive eruptions that were previously attributed to steam.

[dumbocrat]

Explosive volcanic eruptions were not thought to be possible at depths below the critical pressure for steam formation, or 2 miles (3,000 meters). The deposits, however, were found at seafloor depths greater than 2.5 miles (4 kilometers).

"This kind of implosive seismicity is rare anywhere on Earth," said study author Robert Sohn, a geophysicist at the Massachusetts-based Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

Sohn''s team suggests that the amount of carbon dioxide would need to be at least ten times more than any other documented in seafloor samples in order to produce debris scattered over such a large area.

This earthquake swarm was the largest in recorded history along a spreading mid-ocean ridge and prompted researchers to return to the area for further investigation.

Powerful eruptions sent a plume of carbon dioxide, helium, and liquid lava up into the Arctic waters. When the material cooled, rock debris fell to the ocean floor, he explained.

Which explains why Al Gore%u2019s carbon footprint is big enough to fill 20 men. He knows that what he peddles is snake oil.

[tulcak]

Our atmosphere is only 15 miles thick. You''d only be halfway through LA. Do you really think that man can pour billions of tons of carbon into the air and nothing will happen? That''s like going to a poker game with all the windows closed and everyone is smoking cigars. Do we really have to dumb this down for everyone to get it?

[dumbocrat]

This ridge belches an undisclosed amount of carbon dioxide.

The scientists say the heat released by the explosions is not contributing to the melting of the Arctic ice, but Sohn says the huge volumes of CO2 gas that belched out of the undersea volcanoes likely contributed to rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. How much, he couldn%u2019t say.

And scientists have known this for years.

Which explains why Al Gore%u2019s carbon footprint is big enough to fill 20 men. He knows that what he peddles is snake oil.

[missingamerica]

2050? lollll...the fiddle shops must be selling out...

[harpoot]

If these G8 morons just quit flying their 747''s around the world for useless meetings that would help. Ever hear of "lead by example"???

[dumbocrat]

AP NEWS: Volcanoes erupting beneath Arctic ice

New evidence deep beneath the Arctic ice suggests that a series of underwater volcanoes have erupted in violent explosions in the past decade.

Hidden 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) beneath the Arctic surface, the volcanoes can range up to more than a mile (2 kilometers) in diameter and a few hundred yards (meters) tall. They formed along the Gakkel Ridge, a lengthy crack in the ocean crust where two rocky plates are spreading apart, pulling new melted rock to the surface.

The eruptions discharge large amounts of carbon dioxide, helium, trace metals and heat into the water over long distances, he said.

The research, detailed in Thursday''s issue of the journal Nature, was funded by NASA, the National Science Foundation and Woods Hole.

BAN THE VOLCANOES!

[tulcak]

well, i knew we weren''t going to do anything, but, this shows that we will suffer the FULL and dire consequences of global warming... 2050 !? this is insane. this will acomplish nothing. well, kiss your rear goodbye. we already see the consequences all around us. it will only get worse AND at an accelerated rate. and all the way, you will have people screaming that it really isn''t global warming and clamering for more drilling for oil. if you ever wanted to see true madness, this is it. welcome to the nut house - YOU won''t be leaving.