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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
You mean to say you people "believe in school"?


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Posted by headpop5 at 05:19 PM : May 07, 2008


Wow. I don''t even know how to respond.
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
Well, congrats on kicking alcoholism. My basic thought on religion is this. If it works for you, great. If it helps you, great. If you need it, great. However, don''''t sit here and tell me that it is the be all, end all. Do not tell me I am going to hell (not saying you said that). Do not tell me that I am crazy, stupid, ignorant, etc because I do not believe (again, not saying you said that). Like someone earlier said, I do not believe in anything 100%, except the love for my family


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Posted by mjm121

I would never do that because I do not believe in that form of Christianity. There is no way you can convince or influence people with that type of pompous and arrogant attitude. But it is ok for us to disagree.
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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 8:16 PM EDT
Mathematics itself is applied theory. There''''s no 1 and 1 of anything, except in theory.


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Posted by headpop5 at 05:14 PM : May 07, 2008


Yet it is fact. I don''t get where you are going headpop5. If you have a statement, say it.
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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
Oh man, where do I began. My proof is a spiritual thing. One thing is, I was an acoholic, became born again Christian. Asked God for forgiveness and he delivered me from drinking and I never made one trip to AA. I actually puke when I see beer. That is deliverance. I don''''t have room to tell you everything He has done for me. But my proof is beyond Man''''s understanding and science cannot measure in any way.


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Posted by genesis15 at 05:11 PM : May 07, 2008


Well, congrats on kicking alcoholism. My basic thought on religion is this. If it works for you, great. If it helps you, great. If you need it, great. However, don''t sit here and tell me that it is the be all, end all. Do not tell me I am going to hell (not saying you said that). Do not tell me that I am crazy, stupid, ignorant, etc because I do not believe (again, not saying you said that). Like someone earlier said, I do not believe in anything 100%, except the love for my family
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
So where''''s your "missing link". Where''''s the solidification of your beliefs?


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Posted by mjm121

Oh man, where do I began. My proof is a spiritual thing. One thing is, I was an acoholic, became born again Christian. Asked God for forgiveness and he delivered me from drinking and I never made one trip to AA. I actually puke when I see beer. That is deliverance. I don''t have room to tell you everything He has done for me. But my proof is beyond Man''s understanding and science cannot measure in any way.
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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
Nothing is presented as fact in school. Everything is theory.


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Posted by headpop5 at 05:08 PM : May 07, 2008



??????????

Granite, there are some outdated material out there, but everything is theory?

So, 2 + 2 might not equal 4? Could it equal 3?
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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
Sorry Charles Darwin, they never found what you said they needed to find to prove your theory.


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Posted by genesis15 at 05:00 PM : May 07, 2008


So where''s your "missing link". Where''s the solidification of your beliefs?
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
I am going to bed guys. Have a good night. L8er.


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Posted by fibonacci

Sweet dreams. By the way, God loves you and I do to.
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by fibonacci_ May 7, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
robstrck, OK now I see better the context you are talking about. I do not think that it is possible to predict what science will be capable of in the future. That is very difficult.

genisis15, wow.

I am going to bed guys. Have a good night. L8er.
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
Religions have been around A LONG LONG time. Just because they found some relics, does not mean there is a man above. Maybe I am naive, but please tell me what archeological evidence they found that proves there is a god?



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Posted by mjm121

And just because scientists find one jawbone in the desert or the grasslands does not create a story declaring we came from apes. Amazing the stories evolutionists can create from a few bones. Where is the missing link. He is still missing. Sorry Charles Darwin, they never found what you said they needed to find to prove your theory.
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by robstrck May 7, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/dark_matter.html

fib, here is a link to what I was talking about.
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
All science is theoretical - did you not know that? Only mathematicians create proofs. Nonetheless, a "theory" in a scientific sense is for all practical purposes equivalent to a fact.


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Posted by fibonacci_

Wrong!!! Science continously test things, and if the same results are there without any differences, it is declared a fact. Mathematics is just a part of the equation, my dear Watson.
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by mjm121 May 7, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
Factual science is good. Theoretical science is bad, especially when it is presented as fact in schools.


------------------------------------------------------Posted by genesis15 at 04:41 PM : May 07, 2008

And would you rather they teach theoretical religious beliefs in school? If you want your children to learn religion in school, there are many private schools for that. Keep it out of public schools.

Religions have been around A LONG LONG time. Just because they found some relics, does not mean there is a man above. Maybe I am naive, but please tell me what archeological evidence they found that proves there is a god?
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by fibonacci_ May 7, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
Theoretical science is bad, especially when it is presented as fact in schools.

Posted by genesis15

All science is theoretical - did you not know that? Only mathematicians create proofs. Nonetheless, a "theory" in a scientific sense is for all practical purposes equivalent to a fact.
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by fibonacci_ May 7, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
LOOOL!
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by Po Win May 7, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
Both of my parents have relatives in Rangoon as they are Burmese, and were born in Burma. My father fled Burma just before 1962 when the military seized this country, and he has not returned since.

They raised three children born in Allentown, PA; Waltham, MA and myself in Grand Junction, CO. My sisters and I have been trying to reach any relative to no avail.

It would be a boon if the Bush Administration provided aid directly to the United Nations. People could rest easy knowing that our nation''s money is going to a reputable agency and not to the Burmese military.

In short, I can''t understand why India''s meteorological team''s warning wasn''t heeded by the government.

The Burmese would have had two days to head to higher land and would not be without food and water.

NASA, NOAA and the National Reconnaissance Organization could also have easily given adequate warning and provided the Burmese with information regarding response to the cyclone.

In all, this is very sad. In time, this will pass, but I pause to ponder why, why, why?
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by genesis15-2009 May 7, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
Isn''''t there some Kool-Aid you can drink?


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Posted by mjm121

With the exception of evolution, I believe in many aspects of science. Thank God for it. Also, you should know that much of what has been called fables by many people in regards to the Bible have been verified by a form of science called archaeology. Factual science is good. Theoretical science is bad, especially when it is presented as fact in schools.
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by fibonacci_ May 7, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
What if that 99% that is unknowable is God?

Posted by robstrck

I have never heard that statistic before and find it a questionable hypothesis...how, after all could one test what is knowable? I would never dogmatically say that I am 100% sure there is no God, like most religious people say they are 100% sure there is one. Only that I have never seen a single shred of scientific evidence to suggest the possibility.
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by robstrck May 7, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
What we need to control global warming is less human beings (ie less CO2) -- so quick turn the rescue boats around and let these people die!

Posted by three-o-six

******

It is comments like these that keep me from putting my faith in man.
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by displeased May 7, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
What if that 99% that is unknowable is God?
Posted by robstrck

That''s very possible, but how do people know it''s in the form they believe?
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