Comments on: Food Shortages Herald "New Era Of Hunger"

As More Countries Suffer Riots Over Rising Prices And Shortages Of Staples, Aid Groups Call For Relief

[sumarongi]

No one is immune from the looming water crisis. Here in America the recent drought situation in the Southwest and Southeast areas have brought states to seek legislation to establish water rights. Cities across the world are experiencing water rationing.
In Florida the water table is in extreme danger from over pumping and salt water intrusion in coastal areas. The world is a finite closed system. We are overstressing that system and our overpopulation is accelerating the problems of water rights. Citizens will find the cost of water following in the footsteps of fuel price increases. It''s not going to be pretty in the overdeveloped areas.

[element51]

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[element51]

jeanehoward.....Good post. It does seem like the problem is obvious and should be reported on but so many of the world''s religions are against any form of birth control that reporters are reluctant to bring it up. Religion, in whatever form, has such a strong control that it would rather see people starve than to help them control population growth. Religion that was established centuries ago have not adapted to the 21st century and the problems we face today. In the past it was necessary to reproduce in large numbers due to the mortality rate. That is no longer the case but religion has not caught up with todays world.

[johnny_chaos]

Element51 actually Kcain22 is trying to promote an XML radio program. The site is the Unofficial Opie And Anthony Virus MessageBoard.

[lloydbest1]

"...This is a real simply problem folks. We voluntarily reduce our numbers, or nature will do it for us (and is already well on the way.)" Posted by ZykraCosmos at 07:02 PM : Apr 12, 2008

Not attacking you, mind, and I am very glad you said "volutarily" but I wonder how far you thought this through? Do you mean reducing our birth rate? Some nations are already doing that. Or do you mean a rigid moratorium on births? If so, for how long?
I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation on the results of a 30 year worldwide birth moratorium based on UN estimates of the number of births and deaths per year. Assuming 100% compliance (hah!) and a stable death rate, we would have reduced our numbers from approxamately the 6.6B we have today to about 4.8 to 5.0B in 30 years. Much better, no doubt, but not nearly good enough according to most experts who try to guestimate an ideal number.
I agree we need to reduce our numbers as rapidly and as expeditiously as possible otherwise nature WILL do the job for us using any one or more death rate solutions. But in our rush to cut our population someone will inevitably suggest we also implement death rate solutions of our own concurrently with any birth rate solutions we may utilize. I will not even try to count the number worms that escape from the cans that any such suggestions would open up!!
Far from advocating any such genocidal nonsence, I would strongly condemn it.

[mcv57]

Posted by Element51

Thanks for the advice. Misery loves company.

[jeanehoward]

The problems referred to in the first page as confluence of problems are all caused by the growing world population. The world is overpopulated. Most of the global problems (not just food shortages) are caused by this. The current attempts to feed the populace of the developing countries are just temporary fixes, not long term solutions. If humans do not voluntarily control the world population nature will eventually do this for them in a most unpleasant way. I don''t understand why reporters don''t discuss this obvious fact.

[johnny_chaos]

want to help? CONDOMS and EDUCATION! education such as sustainable farming and lifestyle choices, If not that, cluster bombs?

[element51]

mcv57....STAY AWAY FROM KCAIN22''S website. It is a cute way to spread a virus...look at the site name. You may have already seen this but I just thought you should know.

[rgmiron]

artinmay, This is going to hurt use all. How can we help you, when we cann''t help ourselves? THE SH*T hit the fan! We are doing the best to survive and expect that you will do the same! If we can help, count me in, I will help if I can. I did in the past as best I could. Think Locally!!!!!!

[mcv57]

hey U.S.A.,Your the strongest,most developed,most advanced country on this globe. You have every right to lead this world into the future. But do it for the right reasons or we''''re all doomed. HEY AMERICAN, ARE YOU LISTENING.

Posted by artinmay

Hey stupid are you listening. I am an American and I don''t claim the Bushwacker as my president. So, screw off! Your government is so corrupt that it has nothing else to do but blame other corrupt government for its problems.

[johnny_chaos]

Kcain22 yea, poor people and those who cant regulate thier reproductive cycles. religious influence is often very involved, chatholics & muslims love to overbreed.

[element51]

Sumarongi....Very good post and extremely accurate. We are already seeing problems turning up in our water supply and these are just the tip of the iceburg. Agricultural run-off, septic seepage, and industrial polution are all contributing to the growing problem. In order to make bio-fuels it requires a tremendous amount of water. We recently went through public hearings concerning a bio-fuel plant that is going to be located just east of our city. Homeowners in that area claimed that the draw down on the aquifer that supplied them would cause their wells to dry up. It was proven that they were right but the corporation won. The plant is being built. Yes, we can live without oil but without water we will die.

[mcv57]

Posted by Kcain22

What?

[johnny_chaos]

sweet, an end to fatties!

[mcv57]

Posted by Kcain22

[sumarongi]

A problem that is going to get much worse before it gets better, if it does. Increasing disputes over water rights and changing weather patterns may be the proverbial monkey wrench in the works. Irrigation may be one of the critical choke points. In water supply logistics, the country or other entity upstream has the upper hand. When the upstream communities require more water those downstream are on the losing end of the supply line. Less water means fewer crops and water rationing. Lifestyles are ruined and costs rise for everything.
We can live without oil. Although it is critical to the world in it''s own way, it is not critical for survival. Water is that critical. Take oil away and you have hardship. Take water away and you have death.

[artinmay]

hey U.S.A.,Your the strongest,most developed,most advanced country on this globe. You have every right to lead this world into the future. But do it for the right reasons or we''re all doomed. HEY AMERICAN, ARE YOU LISTENING.

[zykracosmos]

This is an awful problem but easy to understand. Thirty years ago we had half as many people on this planet. The earth is the same size as it was 5 billion years ago. Today 40% of the world''s people go to bed without enough to eat. 25% are actually severely malnourished or starving. Global population is well beyond sustainable levels, and at this point there is absolutely no way to stop starvation, pandemic diseases, fighting on regional levels, and finally economic anarchy. We''ve outstripped our food supply and farmland is being laid to waste from over cultivation, fisheries are being wiped out by factory vessels, and the shrinking elite are even using up remaining food supplies to produce fuel for the cars (Brazil, America). This is a real simply problem folks. We voluntarily reduce our numbers, or nature will do it for us (and is already well on the way.)

[mcv57]

Bush is a mass murder, maybe even worst then Hitler.