Comments on: Low Turnout Seen In Iranian Election

Pro-Ahmadinejad Hardliners Expected To Dominate Vote As Many Reformists Are Disqualified

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by ajmarine1 March 14, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
This year, in what appeared to be a no-brainer, the Democrats have been tripping over each other arguing about who opposed the war first, who opposes it the most, who opposes the surge the most, who would declare defeat get us out the quickest. But once again it seems that the public is moving away from the positions that seems so certain just a few months ago. This same Pew poll is showing pluralities (or even majorities) citing improvement in almost every aspect of both the military and political situations in Iraq. People in large part are rejecting the argument that the troop surge has failed and that the war is lost.

Now granted, I think that despite the results of this poll, a vast majority still wants to see our troop levels decline. They do want to see some effort to create some time-table for withdraw. But I think they would prefer that our military and intelligence officials are making these calls, rather than our politicians. I think the American people are getting sort of a second wind here and they would be willing to live with a military presence in Iraq as long as conditions in Iraq are improving, especially if our military commanders can start calling for troop reductions.

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by j-whitman March 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
fredgrad2000,,,, Interviews with Iraqi troops show everyone of them watch our politics & news --- They are all hoping for a win by either Hillary or Obama, they''ve seen what republicans do.
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by j-whitman March 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
fredgrad2000,,,, Go back to school
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by fredgrad2000 March 14, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
To even give the mullahs use of the word "elections" to describe what happened today is disingenuous; the mullahs banned anyone who doesn''t believe the hidden imam is hiding in a well outside Qom, ready to return as long as your abuse your women, support terrorists, support nuke weapons, and agree that a Muslim Napolean is a great leader (even though he can''t manage to do anything other run his mouth).

Now, they are not on the same level, but we in America have our own Guardian Councils as well; organizations our candidates must kow-tow to in order to be allowed into the general election, and we all know who they are (BIG BIG difference is they don''t execute you for calling them for what they are and they aren''t terrorists): All Dems must bow at the anti-war altar of MoveOn.org and CodePink; otherwise Soros and Co. will smear and distort and try to destroy them (see Joe Lieberman for example; or see how quickly Hillary and Barack have run to the left since their presidential campaigns began) and all Republicans have to bow to the Christian Coalition; though I am so proud to say that their power must be waning because if it wasn''t, John McCain, who has been disparaged by many of the Dobson/Falwell ilk would never have become the GOP nominee. Perhaps, just perhaps, McCain will vanquish the GOP Guardian Council; too bad there''s no Dem with the cojones to take down the Dem Guardian Council; all the Dem candidates are dutifully worshipping at the MoveOn altar this election cycle.
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by j-whitman March 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
crusherking,,,, I''ve been having these problems too, maybe CBS should give their people better coffee.

If McCain wasn''t such a staunch supporter of Bush''s policies -

-- We would all be sitting around still with our homes intact smoking Cuban cigars celibrating the total defeat of Al Queda & the Taliban & the capture & trial of Ossama Bin Laden
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by ajmarine1 March 14, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
The suspicion is that the authorities are in two minds about what sort of turnout they want.

They need enough voters to endorse the legitimacy of what they still insist is a democratic process.

But too high a turnout might encourage those who have given up on the government to go out and register their protest, if they can find a like-minded candidate who has not been disqualified.

Some observers mischievously suggest the turnout has already been decreed as a safe 51% - the same as last time.

Maybe that is unfair. But the result certainly seems entirely predictable.

Control of parliament is almost certain to remain with the conservatives, or "principalists" as they prefer to call themselves - how can you be a conservative and a revolutionary at the same time, after all?

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by March 14, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
Here we go, nice free open elections! B.S. period. When you start "disqualifying" candidates because they aren''t islamic enough or want a freer country you have a dictatorship. I know the leading cleric will say the elections are free but as we can all see they are neither free or open.
What is being created and continueing to eveolve is a country of people fored / raised to hate westerners and directly America and her people.
I say that if Iran doesn''t want to be part of the world and follow the UN, expell them and cut off all commerce with them, no exceptions.
Maybe being the worlds only nation to have zero outside contact would help change the closed mind thinking of their leadership.
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by grazinggoat March 14, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
Selective, restrictive and limited participation on who is allowed to run is not Democracy, its bogus elections, stacking the deck in your favor out of fear of losing, like the Russian elections, all the while allowing Iran to claim it had a Vote!

Posted by tbweb at 08:35 AM : Mar 14, 2008

-You think a communist or a Castrist (not castratist, lol!) run in an election? I mean look if Obama, Clinton did not prosternate before AIPAC and pledge for Israel security, they would not be dreaming...

-Almost the same. Look how much coverage did RonPaul get from the press, or Ralph Nader would have...
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by crusherking March 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
Jwhit,
Hope this is not a repost.. Didn''t seem to go through so I will post again.

I''ll still take McCain over Obama or Hilary any day. I just can''t bear the thought of having an American hating (semi) Muslim in the Oval Office nor can I stand the thought of Bill in the white house time(and probably interns) on his hands. Ok. So the Bill comment was just a joke. I really can''t stand the thought of Hilary taking us down the road to socialism full steam ahead.
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by crusherking March 14, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
Jwhit,
Hope this is not a repost.. Didn''t seem to go through so I will post again.

I''ll still take McCain over Obama or Hilary any day. I just can''t bear the thought of having an American hating (semi) Muslim in the Oval Office nor can I stand the thought of Bill in the white house time(and probably interns) on his hands. Ok. So the Bill comment was just a joke. I really can''t stand the thought of Hilary taking us down the road to socialism full steam ahead.
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