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jowand says:

Gaza is under siege and being strangled to death. And to expect Palestinians there, and in the West Bank, to do nothing about it is insane.

Posted by closethippy1 at 09:23 AM : Mar 02, 2008

Israel is under siege and to expect them to do nothing is insane.

Of course it is.
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 09:25 AM : Mar 02, 2008
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formrusmcsgt says:
While Israel is not taking all the steps in that regard that I would like them to take Hamas is totally committed to war and destruction of the peace process at all costs to themselves and their people.

Posted by realpatriot1 at 09:23 AM : Mar 02, 2008

In their stead, I would do exactly the same.

Israel does not want peace...it wants the status quo ad infinitim.

I would not lay down for perpetual occupation either.
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formrusmcsgt says:
Gaza is under siege and being strangled to death. And to expect Palestinians there, and in the West Bank, to do nothing about it is insane.

Posted by closethippy1 at 09:23 AM : Mar 02, 2008

Of course it is.
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closethippy1 says:
This is what Hamas is saying about its actions against Israel: To have Israel control the borders, the airspace and the coast of Gaza, and decide who and what can enter and leave Gaza, and then do nothing about it is to make it look as it is legitimate for the Israelis to do all that.
Remember that Israel''s actions are happening in the context of a 40+ military occupation of the area.
Yes, Hamas can write articles and hold protests and do interviews and travel the world over to argue their case and plead and beg and all that.
But who''s listening? Who''s doing anything about it? 40 long years and nothing, nothing, has been done to ease the Palestinians'' situation.
In fact, it just keeps getting worse with more land confiscation, more Jewish settlers transfered to this lands, more Only Jewish freeways for Jewish settlers to travel on them, more checkpoints, more Palestinians being hunted down and killed without the decency of a court trial, etc.
And all this in the West Bank where not a single rocket has been fired from.
Gaza is under siege and being strangled to death. And to expect Palestinians there, and in the West Bank, to do nothing about it is insane.
One way or another they have to let the world know, at least let Israel know, that they''re not happy with not having the same rights everyone else in the world has.
They really don''t have much of a choice but to attack Israel and let them know that 40 of occupation has to come to an end somehow, sometime.
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realpatriot1 says:
former Sarge,

I don''t think a scorecard of casualities is a true measure of cause and effect. Neither side is without blood on their hands and, as you know better thhan I, that''s the nature of warfare.

What''s more important is who, if anyone, is taking actions that will promote peace. While Israel is not taking all the steps in that regard that I would like them to take Hamas is totally committed to war and destruction of the peace process at all costs to themselves and their people.

Israel doesn''t get the same attention from the U.N. because Israel has violated U.N. resolutions 338, 446, 452,465, and to fully implement resolution 242 or its own agreements made at Camp David and its own response to The Bush administration''s roadmap for peace.

All parties in the Mideast could do more for peace. Abbas has the most difficult job since he has no control over what Hamas is doing in Gaza. Palestinians who want out of Gaza can''t even get out.
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x123123 says:
Time: After the Election
Winner Barack Hussein Obama 44th President of the United States! Amazing!
Jesse Louis Jackson Vice President! Who else!

His Cabinet:
Louis Farrakhan, a known anti-Semite, secretary of defense.
Al" Sharpton Jr. National Security Adviser
Oj. Simpson as Secretary of Health
Mike Tyson Post not realized as yet!

Jeremiah Wright Homeland security:
Vision for America?
white America" had the 9/11 attacks coming, while calling for business "divestment from Israel," a "racist" state along with America.
Day 2
Executive Order 70896 is signed
(commits all power to President)
We will be blessed!

Posted by JoanDavis2 at 08:39 AM : Mar 02, 2008
I saw it to. What should we do?
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formrusmcsgt says:
Posted by ajayvee at 09:14 AM : Mar 02, 2008

Agreed.
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rowdytexan2 says:
The most historically reliable source for the proper ownership of that land and who''''s descendants have always been theree is the BIBLE.

And the Bible gives the JEWS the right to ISrael, and even the SECULAR historical and archaeological evidence agrees.




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Posted by singinrick at 09:10 AM : Mar 02, 2008

I guess the Bible doesn''t rule the world anymore, Singinrick...actually I don''t ever remember it ruling the world. It''s a book of history.
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ajayvee says:
formrusmcsgt wrote: Maybe because of the following?
2007 death toll: 337 Palestinians, 13 Israelis.

Yes, but the 337 are goyim so to the majority of American (and British, for that matter) minds they do not count as casualties; just collateral damage.
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formrusmcsgt says:
The most historically reliable source for the proper ownership of that land and who''''s descendants have always been theree is the BIBLE.


Posted by singinrick at 09:10 AM : Mar 02, 2008

A book that claims the planet is only 6,000 years old is RELIABLE?

Hilarious!
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