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Dutch TV To Air Joran van der Sloot's "Confession" To Natalie Holloway Murder; He Now Says He Lied
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- If he did "accidently kill this girl during a rape" - then who is responsible ? Surely you have to consider the over sexualized society that says to young men - yes, and to women yes, but then due to local ideas/customs/laws/restrictions/religious taboos --- yet again says "no". We can not blame any one person here. It is our society that is at fault. Should we blame the slave owner during the 1850s, or the entire system inherited ???
Me and my students at the University take a broader viewpoint. We do not believe in the burden of blame or punishment. Once lifted, all of us will be free to live complete lives, where there is no class struggle. - Reply to this comment
- Van Der Sloot was caught in a very damming lie. When first questions about leaving the night spot with Holloway he denied he left with her. After many whitenesses told the police otherwise, he changed his story. Why did he lie in the first place? His father was a judge in training, what lies did he tell him to stick to? It turned out he was the last person to see her alive. I think he accidentally killed this girl during a rape.
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- When such events occur, the first primal instinct is to get revenge. Yet, since we are all products of the greater society as a whole, none of us better than the sum of the total, are we not all responsible ??
If there was a crime here, it is in the way society treats women. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by vicarious2 at 01:11 PM : Feb 02, 2008
wronggggggggggg
the war that fascist nazi terrorislamic muslims started rages on 1400 years later,,,
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Origin+of Islam%3A Secular History - Reply to this comment
- Its a cops question, not a layman''''s question. A bankrobber finds out he can''''t away because the bank is surrounded. So he grabs a hostage, holds a gun to her head, and yells out: "Let me go or I''''ll kill her!" Has it just become a cops job and a cops responsibility? Is that hostage in the cops hands? Why should a cop care at all about a hostage?
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Posted by vicarious2 at 12:55 PM : Feb 02, 2008
DUH, because that''s what WE PAY THEM TO DO. What part of "SERVE AND PROTECT" do you not understand in all your snobby little schoolboy wisdom. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by colonieNY at 11:10 AM : Feb 02, 2008
tell it to retarded radical fascist nazi terrorislamic jihadist slavers and murderers
Dutch Politician: Islamic Culture Is ''Retarded''
Dutch Politician Plans to Air Film Criticizing the Koran
A Dutch politician known for his views against Islam plans to air a film he produced that is critical of the Koran, which he likens to Adolf Hitler''s hateful writings.
Parliamentarian Geert Wilders spoke to FOX News about the documentary, insisting the Muslim holy book is dangerous and should be banned.
"I believe the Koran is, indeed, ''Mein Kampf.'' They are the same package," Wilders said. "I believe that our culture is far better than the retarded Islamic culture."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325305,00.html
Dutch Braced For ''Koran Insult'' Backlash
If I insult you, am I responsible for your violence?
It''s a question being debated in the Netherlands this week as Dutch embassies around the world beef up their security ahead of the release of a film on the internet which allegedly insults the Koran. It''s reported to show the Koran being torn up and otherwise desecrated.
http://martinstanford.typepad.com/foreign_matters/2008/01/dutch-braced-fo.html - Reply to this comment
- "Me and my students, long for the day that we ALL will be free" posted by ColonyNY
Well, it is obvious that you ARE free of any intelligence and I believe the claim that you are a college-level professor of English Literature is just as obviously FALSE - "ME AND MY STUDENTS"??? You state that you support the effort to release ONLY the persons of color in prison?? I think you are revealing a lot about yourself there, and none of it is pretty.
Why not comment on the story itself - the fact that a rich, overprivleged and over-indulged young man appears to have gotten away with murder up to this point, and this new information MAY bring him to justice for KILLING a person (regardless of your beliefs on her being there in the first place, she did not ASK to be raped, murdered and dumped in the ocean like fish-chum)
I don''t know what the justice system is like in Aruba, but I certainly hope there is a lie-detector test involved in this somewhere, so that MAYBE, they can finally get to the truth..... - Reply to this comment
- It''s obvious to me that Natalee Holloway was a little tease artist and when it came to put out she changed her mind. This enraged this little punk Van Der Sloot and he raped and then killed her.
In his original statement he claims they had *** on the beach, they fell asleep, he woke up and left her sleeping and left. that was the last time he saw her. Bull!!! Guess what? The last person to see someone alive is the killer. - Reply to this comment
- OBAMA''S RACIST PASTOR DISSES NATALEE HOLLOWAY
http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2008/01/post_25.html
BARRACK OBAMA''S CHURCH HONERS RACIST NATION OF ISLAM LEADER,
LOUIS FARRAKHAN WITH LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/farrakhan_support/2008/01/17/65177.html - Reply to this comment
- ColonieNY
You are repeating your same "insane" comment. - Reply to this comment
- I can identify with tragedy and in fact study it a lot in my field, but I also know that if we give up the burden of punishment, we will all be much more free to be ourselves. I am not saying we can forgive, because if we do that, we take on a "higher" aspect than the person who is the object or focus of the so called "crime." There are no crimes, just society making poor judgments in how we use our collective resources. My point is, by pointing fingers at others, we are really pointing blame at ourselves.
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- ColonieNY .. If you are an English professor why
is your grammer so horrible ...scarey..I am sure I make mistakes but I am not an English professor!!!
So you sound like you do not think your loved ones
should be protected from killers. People who torture and murder should be free. ??? You sould mentally unstable!!!! - Reply to this comment
- Why do you folks turn every blog into a politicial debate on your favorite mudraker don''t have the intelligence to talk about the posted story. No one cares who your supporting and you won''t change anyones mind. If you really wanr the truth all this clinton verses obama is going to give Mcain the whitehouse
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- I can identify with tragedy and in fact study it a lot in my field, but I also know that if we give up the burden of punishment, we will all be much more free to be ourselves. I am not saying we can forgive, because if we do that, we take on a "higher" aspect than the person who is the object or focus of the so called "crime." There are no crimes, just society making poor judgments in how we use our collective resources. My point is, by pointing fingers at others, we are really pointing blame at ourselves.
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- I think the reporter is a hero to set this confession up. Anyone that thinks the dead and their families don''t deserve justice are lacking some sort of moral
values. For those of you that say you are tired of the story why are you reading it and commenting?? I am thrilled that the family may have answers and a murderer may pay for his actions. This shows how reporters can play an important role in justice.
Some of the comments are really rude. She may have
been drugged ,making her willing to go with him .
Even if she wasn''t making her out to be at fault for
going with him blames her instead of the predator that killed her. All she is guilty of is being trusting. I was the same way at her age til I realized
alot of people should not be trusted. - Reply to this comment
- ColonieNY......Engish Lit, sure!! You''ve obviously never had someone you love murdered. Oh, my son was just murdered. Ok. please forgive the murderer or how else could this world move forward. Your an...
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- colonieNY... any professor in English Lit would certainly know how to use commas better than you do. Or, well, maybe not. This country is TOAST.
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- I''ve been saying that all this time- white, blonde, pretty, enough money to go to Aruba for high school graduation, lots of good photos, good looking blonde white friends... THAT''S why we pretend to care about this one missing person. Missing fat, poor, ugly, black, latino, Asian people... we couldn''t care less about the hundreds of thousands of missing of those. America is the land of hypocritical pukes. We care as long as we feel like we look good to others while caring.
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- Why is society so hell bent on punishment all the time. Isn''t it time we just move on ? As a college Professor, in English Lit, I have a perspective that tells me that there are no victims, as we are all victims, and that if we learn to forgive, we lift the burden of need for punishment. That is why I support the efforts on campus to pardon ( who are we to punish) all people of color in jail at this time, to free not only them but our selves. Me and my students, long for the day that we ALL will be free. Any one person in jail, means that we are all in jail. I wish that society could just understand.
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Isn''t it time we moved on ? Punishing this poor boy won''t bring her back. All the families have already suffered enough. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Things happen.- Reply to this comment
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