Comments on: Bush Warns Iran Of "Serious Consequences"

During Meeting With Israeli PM In Jerusalem, President Calls Iran A "Threat To World Peace"

[jw218389]

Re: Iranian boats approach US Naval Vessels

GULF OF TONKIN?? Helloooooo.... BUSH IS AT IT AGAIN.... Hasn''t Halliburton made enough money yet????
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For you youngsters the Gulf of Tonkin ''incident'' was a fabricated claim that US ships were fired upon and was used by Lyndon Johnson to start the Vietnam war.



From Wikipedia: The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is a pair of supposed attacks allegedly carried out by naval forces of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (commonly referred to as North Vietnam) against two American destroyers, the USS Maddox and the USS Turner Joy. The incident occurred on August 2 and 4, 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin.[1]

Although it is possible that the first attack, on the destroyer Maddox, was in fact carried out after the Maddox fired first, some altercation did occur. The second supposed attack almost certainly did not occur.

[mcv57]

''''''''Gulf incident clip fabricated'''''''' (video)
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
Teheran, Iran

Iran on Wednesday called video and audio released by the Pentagon showing Iranian Revolutionary Guards boats confronting US warships in the Strait of Hormuz "fabricated," an English-language state-run television station reported.

"fabricated."

The Iranian boats appeared to ignore repeated warnings from the US ships, including horn blasts and radio transmissions, according to the video, which was shot from the bridge of the destroyer USS Hopper.

Intend no harm."

The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a 20-minute or so clash.

That is something normal that takes place every now and then for each party," he told the state news agency IRNA.

"The identification of vessels passing through the Strait of Hormuz by Iranian Navy units is a natural occurrence," the official IRNA news agency quoted Najjar. "Islamic Republic of Iran Navy units always put questions to passing vessels and warships at the Strait of Hormuz and they need to identify themselves. This is in accordance with the normal procedures."

Najjar called Western news reports that the boats threatened to blow up the US warships as "mischief."

[three-o-six]

I propose that we give Iran the nuclear energy they want, in the form of sub launched tomahawks. Then we coul have their oil fields and solve two problems at once.

[hungry1968]

FORMER -- That''''s not even close to being a comparison and you know it. There is not only a huge, but a MASSIVE difference in Hussein doing all that he did to us after the first gulf war with ingnoring all the resolution compared to us ignoring the UN because of their refusal to act.

Not even close dude...not even close.....

Posted by poopusbuttus at 08:45 PM : Jan 09, 2008




Saddam Hussein broke what resolution? The no fly zone?

You think that compares to the invasion of a sovereign nation for NO LEGITIMATE REASON? Killing hundreds of thousands, making refugees out of millions, destroying their infrastructure, and plunging their economy into the toilet, WHILE destabilizing the entire region somehow compares to shooting at an F-16 flying at 30,000 feet, at 1000 MPH with an Ak-47?

[hungry1968]

Agreed. I''''m off to cook dinner for my lady. Take care hungry, J.

Posted by formrusmcsgt at 08:43 PM : Jan 09, 2008



Take it easy....

[hungry1968]

After getting his asss kicked the first time, and, after all the other BS we, and your beloved UN, put up with for several years, after 9/11 we had to take him out.

There was too many things going on with Hussein to just let slide by in that part of the world.

Posted by poopusbuttus at 08:40 PM : Jan 09, 2008



Don''t you think that MAYBE we should have went after the terrorists instead?

[poopusbuttus]

It matters because your contention was that the U.N. never does anything.



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Posted by formrusmcsgt


It doesnt do anything. Never. The UN had no choice but to act because every nation was against Iraq invading Kuwait. That was the correct move...however, just because they''ve failed in every other aspect of acting, does not make them correct, FORMER.


What you''re saying is that if the UN doesnt sanction it, it must be wrong. That''s BS and you know it.

[j-whitman]

formrusmcsgt,,,, Have a good dinner, I''m tired of arguing with the poser too. See ya later & Semper Fi

[hungry1968]

Sure he would have. After 9/11 and provided that negotiations would have taken place to first, get rid of Ansar-Al Islam, and if that didnt work, go take them out.

Posted by poopusbuttus at 08:37 PM : Jan 09, 2008




Are you really delusional enough to think that we can invade anyone, any time we want, no matter if we have a legitimate reason or not?

And then you morons on the right can''t figure out why we don''t have any credibility....

[poopusbuttus]

It is not that I place confidence, per se, in the U.N., but as we are a signatory nation to the charter, I feel we need to honor that just as we expect others to honor treaties.

You youraelf have slammed Saddam for not honoring his commitments of the cease-fire yet justify the U.S. ignoring it''''s agreements just as he did.



FORMER -- That''s not even close to being a comparison and you know it. There is not only a huge, but a MASSIVE difference in Hussein doing all that he did to us after the first gulf war with ingnoring all the resolution compared to us ignoring the UN because of their refusal to act.

Not even close dude...not even close.....